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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
Also, the Nova Scotia conservatives who were elected a few years ago have called a snap election.

That is despite them putting into law fixed election dates a couple of years back. For all of those who think a blue wave is the answer........think again.

- golfingsince


You mean they fli-flopped on 1 of there policies/laws, here I thought only other parties did that.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Nov 1 @ 1:00 PM ET
If she loses it's because the Dems were stupid enough to replace Biden with an unqualified female minority instead of someone who can actually articulate where their party stands on policies.

Not someone who flip flops more than a fish and can't give a speech without a teleprompter.

They went all in playing the woke hand and hopefully they get what they deserve.

- Oildrum

Someone sounds scared.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 1:00 PM ET
From X…they never wanted peace, and they never will.


Bill Clinton On the Palestinians:

“And the only time Yasser Arafat didn't tell me the truth was when he promised me he was gonna accept the peace deal that we had worked out, which would have given the Palestinians a state on 96% of the West Bank and 4% of Israel, and they got to choose where the 4% of Israel was. So they would have the effect of the same land of all the West Bank. They would have a capital in East Jerusalem.

I can hardly talk about this…. And they would have equal access all day every day to the security towers that Israel maintained all through the West Bank up to the Golan Heights.

All this was offered, including, I will say it again, a capital in East Jerusalem and 2 of the 4 quadrants of the old city of Jerusalem, confirmed by the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, and his cabinet. And they said no.

And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians. They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable.

Well, I got news for them, they were there first before there was their faith existed.

They were there. In the time of King David, in the southern most tribes, Hadjardia and Samaria.”
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
If she loses it's because the Dems were stupid enough to replace Biden with an unqualified female minority instead of someone who can actually articulate where their party stands on policies.

Not someone who flip flops more than a fish and can't give a speech without a teleprompter.

They went all in playing the woke hand and hopefully they get what they deserve.

- Oildrum


What makes her unqualified?
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Nov 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
What makes her unqualified?
- NewYorkNuck

Being a progressive biracial woman.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
What makes her unqualified?
- NewYorkNuck


Why are Kamala Harris and Donald Trump unsuitable presidential candidates?

As the 2024 presidential election looms, America faces a significant dilemma: choosing between two unqualified candidates many believe do not embody the nation's best potential.

As the 2024 presidential election looms, America faces a significant dilemma: choosing between two unqualified candidates many believe do not embody the nation’s best potential. Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are the front-runners. Delving deeply into both candidates reveals substantial weaknesses that complicate their qualifications. Kamala Harris is considered the first Black and South Asian female nominated for the highest political position in the United States. However, she arguably lacks political experience, particularly in foreign policy. Thus, this inexperience could be a significant liability in an era of global uncertainty. Since assuming the role of vice president, Harris has struggled to define her role and make a substantial impact on major policy areas. As a vice president, her handling of critical issues, such as the border crisis and diplomatic engagements, has been disappointing. This failure to effectively address such issues adds to the narrative that she may not be prepared for the full responsibilities of the presidency. In addition to that, Harris’s considerable inability to build a solid public profile is another concern. As such, many Americans remain uncertain of her leadership capabilities. The question arises: Can Kamala Harris effectively lead the nation and navigate the complexities of international relations in a time of global instability?

To answer this question, we need to explore the character of Kamala, who is clinging to the presidency, much like Trump, who does not understand the international system and foreign policy laws properly. While historic milestones have marked her political career, it has yet to demonstrate the necessary depth of experience and strategic vision for the presidency. As the world grapples with escalating geopolitical tensions, particularly in the Middle East, economic uncertainties, and a rapidly changing climate, the next president must possess the ability to respond to prevent them. Kamala may need a decade, or perhaps more, to master the art of foreign policy. Therefore, the answer here is hard to interpret, even when considered from another perspective.

Conversely, Trump is a polarizing and controversial figure and may even be a cause for concern. Trump’s management style is erratic and impulsive, leading to unpredictable policy changes that can destabilize both domestic and international arenas. An excellent example is his first tenure, characterized by significant controversy, contentious foreign policies, and an impeachment trial. Additionally, he adopted an unorthodox style and approach in navigating relationships with allies and adversaries and addressing critical global issues. His foreign policy decisions often prioritized short-term gains over long-term stability and alliances. On the same boat, his frequent clashes with the media and political establishments are another significant concern. Such approach and behavior have left divided. Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that Trump will follow the same approach that previously led to the tumultuous and chaotic atmosphere. His return to the White House could further erode democratic norms and institutions.

Although Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are prominent figures in the upcoming election, their candidacies bring to light significant issues regarding experience, divisiveness, and the need for new leadership. As such, arguably, looking deeply into American political history, the current scenario underscores that America’s democratic process is at a critical juncture. Voter dissatisfaction with the top candidates signals a broader need for systemic change within the political arena. However, although the timing of upcoming American elections is imminent, the Democratic and Republican parties still need to nurture a new generation of leaders who embody integrity, competence, and a genuine commitment to public service for the next decade, regardless of which candidate wins. Additionally, both parties must engage in introspection and reform to restore trust with the American public. The growth of extreme partisanship and the erosion of civil discourse have obstructed effective policymaking. The route to a healthier democracy lies in collaboration, transparency, and a renewed commitment to the common good. Realizing this vision requires political will and active engagement from citizens who demand accountability and ethical behavior from their representatives. In sum, America stands at a crossroads, and the decisions made in the coming years will determine the nation’s trajectory for a decade. It is possible to overcome the nation’s challenges with sustained effort and dedication. Thus, both parties must step up, offering candidates in the future who can lead and inspire confidence in American citizens. The future of American democracy hinges on embracing these ideals, guaranteeing the nation thrives through collective effort and principled leadership. Only then will the U.S. be able to reach its full potential as it befits its reputation as a superpower.


https://moderndiplomacy.eu/
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 4:53 PM ET
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 5:05 PM ET
Who's tax dollars?
- bloatedmosquito


A little blurb on your hero Justin.


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 5:08 PM ET
More on Bloated's hero.

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
Why are Kamala Harris and Donald Trump unsuitable presidential candidates?

- Pacificgem


Are there better candidates on both sides? Hell ya. Are both under-qualified? Sure. However, this narrative that Kamala is unqualified is lazy and dumb. She went to law school, became a DA, elected AG of California, was a junior Senator in Cali, then a full on Senator, then VP... she has big shortcomings for sure, but she's not unqualified.

I also find it funny that the Republicans push this "unqualified" notion on her when she's much more qualified than Trump was his first time around – and probably even now.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
Are there better candidates on both sides? Hell ya. Are both under-qualified? Sure. However, this narrative that Kamala is unqualified is lazy and dumb. She went to law school, became a DA, elected AG of California, was a junior Senator in Cali, then a full on Senator, then VP... she has big shortcomings for sure, but she's not unqualified.

I also find it funny that the Republicans push this "unqualified" notion on her when she's much more qualified than Trump was his first time around – and probably even now.

- NewYorkNuck


Yeah, if you like someone who's a mouthpiece for special interests and has no real thoughts of her own, something the leader of the Free World (so-called) needs. That's not to say Trump is better, hardly...

Truthfully... I was hoping it'd be Newsom versus DeSantis which would be a lot more interesting and honestly, either one would be fine as president.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 1 @ 6:21 PM ET
Yeah, if you like someone who's a mouthpiece for special interests and has no real thoughts of (their) own, something the leader of the Free World (so-called) needs. That's not to say Trump is better, hardly...

Truthfully... I was hoping it'd be Newsom versus DeSantis which would be a lot more interesting and honestly, either one would be fine as president.

- DariusKnight


You just described nearly every single (American) politician.

I would have preferred Bernie the last few cycles, but this one Pete Buttigieg would have been great... but America can't even wrap their heads around a woman as president, let alone a gay man.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
Are there better candidates on both sides? Hell ya. Are both under-qualified? Sure. However, this narrative that Kamala is unqualified is lazy and dumb. She went to law school, became a DA, elected AG of California, was a junior Senator in Cali, then a full on Senator, then VP... she has big shortcomings for sure, but she's not unqualified.

I also find it funny that the Republicans push this "unqualified" notion on her when she's much more qualified than Trump was his first time around – and probably even now.

- NewYorkNuck

I’m not pushing either candidate, I don’t think either one of them should be President of the United States. However. Why would you find it funny, that’s naïve of you, that’s just politics, they’re trying to win. And I don’t know too many politicians who are fair play people. They’re all scumbags.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 2 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah, if you like someone who's a mouthpiece for special interests and has no real thoughts of her own, something the leader of the Free World (so-called) needs. That's not to say Trump is better, hardly...

Truthfully... I was hoping it'd be Newsom versus DeSantis which would be a lot more interesting and honestly, either one would be fine as president.

- DariusKnight

As Yorky does one should never confuse education with intelligence. You can have multiple degrees and public service records and still be a total idiot...which Kamala is.

She's completely unqualified but the libtards don't really want to address the facts of her VP activity under the worst President in US history Mr Sleepy Joe Biden:

-Allowed over 15 million unvetted illegals in the US in the last 4 years.
-Biggest inflation crisis in US history.
-Record high gas prices in US history.
-Highest consumer debt in US history.
-Released know Terrorists in US and Canada multiple occasions.
-Ukraine/Russia war under her watch.
-Israel/Hamas war under her watch.
-Disaster withdrawal from Afghanistan.
-Highest violent crime rates in US history.
-Mutliple attempts to jail a political rival in the name of 'democracy'.
-Outright lied to the public on Biden decline.
-Declared outright war on the US energy sector.
-Lowest k12 test scores for students in US history.
-Lowest ratings unpopularity for President and VP in US history.
-Worst Border Crisis in US History.
-Woke politics pushed/gender based lies and studies on US children.

I mean honestly one could go on and on on why she is so unqualified. But yes there should have been a better choice for Republican candidate Desantis would have been nice. Newsam is just another woke climatard running Cali into the ground would be horrible. Vance shredded Walz in the debate and was very well spoken on Rogan. Would also be a good candidate for President and maybe it will end up that way. Hard to say. Guess we'll see on Nov 5th if we get affordable groceries and gas under Trump or WW3 under Kamala lol
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 2 @ 1:32 PM ET
As Yorky does one should never confuse education with intelligence. You can have multiple degrees and public service records and still be a total idiot...which Kamala is.

She's completely unqualified but the libtards don't really want to address the facts of her VP activity under the worst President in US history Mr Sleepy Joe Biden:

-Allowed over 15 million unvetted illegals in the US in the last 4 years.
-Biggest inflation crisis in US history.
-Record high gas prices in US history.
-Highest consumer debt in US history.
-Released know Terrorists in US and Canada multiple occasions.
-Ukraine/Russia war under her watch.
-Israel/Hamas war under her watch.
-Disaster withdrawal from Afghanistan.
-Highest violent crime rates in US history.
-Mutliple attempts to jail a political rival in the name of 'democracy'.
-Outright lied to the public on Biden decline.
-Declared outright war on the US energy sector.
-Lowest k12 test scores for students in US history.
-Lowest ratings unpopularity for President and VP in US history.
-Worst Border Crisis in US History.
-Woke politics pushed/gender based lies and studies on US children.

I mean honestly one could go on and on on why she is so unqualified. But yes there should have been a better choice for Republican candidate Desantis would have been nice. Newsam is just another woke climatard running Cali into the ground would be horrible. Vance shredded Walz in the debate and was very well spoken on Rogan. Would also be a good candidate for President and maybe it will end up that way. Hard to say. Guess we'll see on Nov 5th if we get affordable groceries and gas under Trump or WW3 under Kamala lol

- LordHumungous


Funny thing is you can have no degrees and no public record and also be a total idiot. Hell you can even start a "university" just to scam people out of money and have people balls deep on your degree.

And interesting to know, out of all the things you listed (which many are plain wrong), what does the VP of the US actually have power to control?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 2 @ 1:39 PM ET
Funny thing is you can have no degrees and no public record and also be a total idiot. Hell you can even start a "university" just to scam people out of money and have people balls deep on your degree.

And interesting to know, out of all the things you listed (which many are plain wrong), what does the VP of the US actually have power to control?

- NewYorkNuck


Considering she's also the chair of the senate and the deciding vote in what was a nearly evenly divided senate, quite a lot actually
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Considering she's also the chair of the senate and the deciding vote in what was a nearly evenly divided senate, quite a lot actually
- DariusKnight


So she can be the tie breaking vote in the Senate. She doesn't dictate or implement policy, as purported by LordDrumpf. She doesn't get to sign things into law or not. The VP actually doesn't have the power to really do much. Here's what their power is in the constitution:

The Constitution names the vice president of the United States as the president of the Senate. In addition to serving as presiding officer, the vice president has the sole power to break a tie vote in the Senate and formally presides over the receiving and counting of electoral ballots cast in presidential elections.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 2 @ 11:05 PM ET
So she can be the tie breaking vote in the Senate. She doesn't dictate or implement policy, as purported by LordDrumpf. She doesn't get to sign things into law or not. The VP actually doesn't have the power to really do much. Here's what their power is in the constitution:
- NewYorkNuck


So Pence oversaw the election and the democrats still won.

Sounds like a good reason to riot.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 11:01 AM ET
So she can be the tie breaking vote in the Senate. She doesn't dictate or implement policy, as purported by LordDrumpf. She doesn't get to sign things into law or not. The VP actually doesn't have the power to really do much. Here's what their power is in the constitution:
- NewYorkNuck

lol the funny thing about you libtards endorsing Harris is how you try to separate her 'policies' from what the Biden/Harris administration has 'accomplished' over the last 4 years. Which is a disaster as my points above stated. Yes as the VP she's on the sidelines a bit but if you believe for one minute that she not involved in dictating policy or law you'd better check your brains at the door dude lol. She fully supported all the 'Biden adminisration' policies for 4 years so how can she not be a part of that? Especially since July when Biden was declared inept by his own party and had to step down. And you have to know that Obama and Hillary have been involved since Biden was declared inept or even WAY before. Come on man wakey wakey lol...

Bottom line is she has been directly involved especially since July where she 'stepped in' for Biden lol. Her policies moving forward are all Biden/Obama/Hillary in the waiting. She's so fucking dense and unqualified she'll just ride on the laurels of the failed Biden/Harris' policies of the past 4 years and try to spin them in a different way to the US folks in her campaign bullish!t. Even CNN was asking Harris tough questions and she had zero sane responses lol.

Trump and Poillievre may not be perfect but a massive change in federal policy in Canada and the States is sorely needed. But I fear they may not be able to even come close to fixing what you libtard voters have accomplished in 4-8 years which is truly remarkable. Plus I love how you Libs in here claim to be 'centrists' when you clearly you will jump to defend Liberal policies which are quickly destroying North America just to satisfy your sheer hatred for Trump and Poillievre...and then claim not to be liberals. Beautiful dude...beautiful.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Nov 3 @ 11:05 AM ET
lol the funny thing about you libtards endorsing Harris is how you try to separate her 'policies' from what the Biden/Harris administration has 'accomplished' over the last 4 years. Which is a disaster as my points above stated. Yes as the VP she's on the sidelines a bit but if you believe for one minute that she not involved in dictating policy or law you'd better check your brains at the door dude lol. She fully supported all the 'Biden adminisration' policies for 4 years so how can she not be a part of that? Especially since July when Biden was declared inept by his own party and had to step down. And you have to know that Obama and Hillary have been involved since Biden was declared inept or even WAY before. Come on man wakey wakey lol...

Bottom line is she has been directly involved especially since July where she 'stepped in' for Biden lol. Her policies moving forward are all Biden/Obama/Hillary in the waiting. She's so fucking dense and unqualified she'll just ride on the laurels of the failed Biden/Harris' policies of the past 4 years and try to spin them in a different way to the US folks in her campaign bullish!t. Even CNN was asking Harris tough questions and she had zero sane responses lol.

Trump and Poillievre may not be perfect but a massive change in federal policy in Canada and the States is sorely needed. But I fear they may not be able to even come close to fixing what you libtard voters have accomplished in 4-8 years which is truly remarkable. Plus I love how you Libs in here claim to be 'centrists' when you clearly you will jump to defend Liberal policies which are quickly destroying North America just to satisfy your sheer hatred for Trump and Poillievre...and then claim not to be liberals. Beautiful dude...beautiful.

- LordHumungous

Do you find that you reach your desired audience in here?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
Do you find that you reach your desired audience in here?
- Danny Bomber

lol 'desired audience' that's a good one Marwood you enjoying a long ban or something? WTF...
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
lol the funny thing about you libtards endorsing Harris is how you try to separate her 'policies' from what the Biden/Harris administration has 'accomplished' over the last 4 years. Which is a disaster as my points above stated. Yes as the VP she's on the sidelines a bit but if you believe for one minute that she not involved in dictating policy or law you'd better check your brains at the door dude lol. She fully supported all the 'Biden adminisration' policies for 4 years so how can she not be a part of that? Especially since July when Biden was declared inept by his own party and had to step down. And you have to know that Obama and Hillary have been involved since Biden was declared inept or even WAY before. Come on man wakey wakey lol...

Bottom line is she has been directly involved especially since July where she 'stepped in' for Biden lol. Her policies moving forward are all Biden/Obama/Hillary in the waiting. She's so fucking dense and unqualified she'll just ride on the laurels of the failed Biden/Harris' policies of the past 4 years and try to spin them in a different way to the US folks in her campaign bullish!t. Even CNN was asking Harris tough questions and she had zero sane responses lol.

Trump and Poillievre may not be perfect but a massive change in federal policy in Canada and the States is sorely needed. But I fear they may not be able to even come close to fixing what you libtard voters have accomplished in 4-8 years which is truly remarkable. Plus I love how you Libs in here claim to be 'centrists' when you clearly you will jump to defend Liberal policies which are quickly destroying North America just to satisfy your sheer hatred for Trump and Poillievre...and then claim not to be liberals. Beautiful dude...beautiful.

- LordHumungous




lol please go on, your rambling is so enlightening
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 11:56 AM ET


lol please go on, your rambling is so enlightening

- NewYorkNuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 12:01 PM ET


lol please go on, your rambling is so enlightening

- NewYorkNuck

Taking the champs to school...

Just getting started...

#Booner
#Pressy
#Lefty
#Lordy

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 12:18 PM ET
Taking the champs to school...

Just getting started...

#Booner
#Pressy
#Lefty
#Lordy


- LordHumungous

Buddy NYN has not only taken you to school, he has stolen your lunch money and grabbed your lunch and then made all the cool kids laugh in your face.

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