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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
Not all, but the larger percentage of it is due to Federal Libtards and folks like Notley. Can't defend the Prentice, Redford era of course but Notley put this Province 96 billion in debt in less than 4 years. Made all kinds of huge promises on health care, education, infrastructure etc but none of it happened but a large debt load. This is what happens when you elect officials that aren't fiscally responsible or know how to govern. Many NDP voters I know here have no idea what an actual platform is...they vote NDP because they 'support gays, trans or LGTBQ' values lol. Then they whine they are not getting what they need from the govt they voted in because they have no idea what their platforms actually are. Kenney wasn't much better as he just tried to cut-cut-cut from Notley's erratic spending and that doesn't work either.

Same goes for JT voters. They vote for him based off a single thing they resonate with...but have no clue about his fiscal programs or his ability to govern. 'Oh I voted for JT because he supports immigration and woke culture'. Well I'm sorry but that's not good enough. Educate yourself before you hit that ballot. We are now on course for a Trillion dollar debt under JT the largest in CDN history more than the past 22 PM's combined. And you can't pull the COVID card on that either this man has no idea how to govern and has surrounded himself with probably the most inept cabinet in CDN history with the likes of Freeland/Joly etc.

Alberta did just fine under the likes of Klein and a few others. But short lived as that was the premiers that followed Klein were a disaster and they were Conservative. Folks took a chance with Notley and she deserved her shot...but she was the worst Premier in the history of this Province in many ways not just fiscally. Man I hope Albertans aren't dumb enough to put her back in power again. But I think Danielle Smith is a decent choice here but again she needs to stick to her promises and stick it to Ottawa. If she ends up being another Jason Kenney a flip flopper then we are screwed yet again.

And folks in BC shouldn't be happy with JT either. Part of his Platform is to stick it to the west and that includes BC AB SASK and MB. No way Fuel should be $2.40 in Victoria...you can thank JT and Biden for that this process was well in motion before Russia invaded Ukraine lol. MSM uses the Russia/Ukraine angle to push the gas price narratives but really Russia only provides 3-4% of petroleum based products to North America. All my friends here who are analysts in Oil/Gas industry say it insignificant next to affecting gas prices here in North America but that's how the narratives are spun. It's biden and Trudeau all the way causing inflation. Not 100% but most of it falls on those two clowns and their voters plus printing VAST amounts of money, which doesn't help. This sh!t would have never happened under Trump but now way they would ever admit that now. Plus Putin would have never went into Ukraine under Trump. He was just waiting for an inept govt in the States and he got his chance.

Bottom line is until we see some form of electoral reform BC AB SASK and MB will remain in big trouble from the current Fed govt. Especially if JT manages to get back in 2025. Elections Canada still hasn't come clean on the 200,000 votes that 'went missing' during the last federal election lol. Which may have been enough to swing it the other way. And now we have Dominion Voting machines to contend with Provincially as well lol...gonna be fun. JT is the only PM in history to lose the popular vote TWICE and still remain in power...plus the coalition with the sellout Singh didn't please his voters much...if he has any left now he is just cruising to his pension fund in three years. Pollievre has a shot maybe if he merges with the PPC lol. But that could be disastrous. But I'm sure JT has some form of 'electoral reform' up his sleeve to retain power. If anything he is a slimy fucker lol.

Anyways my take and a bit of an essay lol. Either way we have tough times ahead especially if China goes into Taiwan. And I fear they will as the Biden and JT governments are so inept there will be no recourse. Crazy times anyways.

Happy Thxgiving to all anyways. Enjoy this time with your families best to all this holiday weekend.

- LordHumungous

Klein’s role in Alberta’s current predicament will come as a surprise to many conservatives, who would much rather blame either their NDP predecessors or the Liberal government in Ottawa for it. But according to data from a recent report from the Business Council of Alberta (BCA), Ralph Klein is the true author of Alberta’s fiscal misfortunes — especially, and perhaps most ironically, when it comes to the spending that conservatives like Jason Kenney talk about the most.
“Spending increases from 1999/00 to 2009/10 created a wedge between Alberta and other provinces, one that has persisted since,” the report notes. “At the beginning of that 10-year period, Alberta spent about $700 less per person than the average for the rest of Canada. By 2009/10, however, Alberta was spending $1,200 more per person.”


https://www.nationalobser...ormer-premier-ralph-klein
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
predictable
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 9 @ 5:02 PM ET
What's going on in here an essay writing contest?
- VanHockeyGuy


- Lordy

*Lordy commences writing an essay*

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
Not 100% but most of it falls on those two clowns and their voters plus printing VAST amounts of money, which doesn't help. This sh!t would have never happened under Trump but now way they would ever admit that now. Plus Putin would have never went into Ukraine under Trump. He was just waiting for an inept govt in the States and he got his chance.

- LordHumungous


I find this part the funniest.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 9 @ 5:31 PM ET
I find this part the funniest.
- NewYorkNuck

The supply only 3-4 % of oil products to NA is funny as well, considering we're both also top 5 oil producers. What they give to NA means (frank) all in a global context.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 6:15 PM ET
Not all, but the larger percentage of it is due to Federal Libtards and folks like Notley. Can't defend the Prentice, Redford era of course but Notley put this Province 96 billion in debt in less than 4 years. Made all kinds of huge promises on health care, education, infrastructure etc but none of it happened but a large debt load. This is what happens when you elect officials that aren't fiscally responsible or know how to govern. Many NDP voters I know here have no idea what an actual platform is...they vote NDP because they 'support gays, trans or LGTBQ' values lol. Then they whine they are not getting what they need from the govt they voted in because they have no idea what their platforms actually are. Kenney wasn't much better as he just tried to cut-cut-cut from Notley's erratic spending and that doesn't work either.

Same goes for JT voters. They vote for him based off a single thing they resonate with...but have no clue about his fiscal programs or his ability to govern. 'Oh I voted for JT because he supports immigration and woke culture'. Well I'm sorry but that's not good enough. Educate yourself before you hit that ballot. We are now on course for a Trillion dollar debt under JT the largest in CDN history more than the past 22 PM's combined. And you can't pull the COVID card on that either this man has no idea how to govern and has surrounded himself with probably the most inept cabinet in CDN history with the likes of Freeland/Joly etc.

Alberta did just fine under the likes of Klein and a few others. But short lived as that was the premiers that followed Klein were a disaster and they were Conservative. Folks took a chance with Notley and she deserved her shot...but she was the worst Premier in the history of this Province in many ways not just fiscally. Man I hope Albertans aren't dumb enough to put her back in power again. But I think Danielle Smith is a decent choice here but again she needs to stick to her promises and stick it to Ottawa. If she ends up being another Jason Kenney a flip flopper then we are screwed yet again.

And folks in BC shouldn't be happy with JT either. Part of his Platform is to stick it to the west and that includes BC AB SASK and MB. No way Fuel should be $2.40 in Victoria...you can thank JT and Biden for that this process was well in motion before Russia invaded Ukraine lol. MSM uses the Russia/Ukraine angle to push the gas price narratives but really Russia only provides 3-4% of petroleum based products to North America. All my friends here who are analysts in Oil/Gas industry say it insignificant next to affecting gas prices here in North America but that's how the narratives are spun. It's biden and Trudeau all the way causing inflation. Not 100% but most of it falls on those two clowns and their voters plus printing VAST amounts of money, which doesn't help. This sh!t would have never happened under Trump but now way they would ever admit that now. Plus Putin would have never went into Ukraine under Trump. He was just waiting for an inept govt in the States and he got his chance.

Bottom line is until we see some form of electoral reform BC AB SASK and MB will remain in big trouble from the current Fed govt. Especially if JT manages to get back in 2025. Elections Canada still hasn't come clean on the 200,000 votes that 'went missing' during the last federal election lol. Which may have been enough to swing it the other way. And now we have Dominion Voting machines to contend with Provincially as well lol...gonna be fun. JT is the only PM in history to lose the popular vote TWICE and still remain in power...plus the coalition with the sellout Singh didn't please his voters much...if he has any left now he is just cruising to his pension fund in three years. Pollievre has a shot maybe if he merges with the PPC lol. But that could be disastrous. But I'm sure JT has some form of 'electoral reform' up his sleeve to retain power. If anything he is a slimy fucker lol.

Anyways my take and a bit of an essay lol. Either way we have tough times ahead especially if China goes into Taiwan. And I fear they will as the Biden and JT governments are so inept there will be no recourse. Crazy times anyways.

Happy Thxgiving to all anyways. Enjoy this time with your families best to all this holiday weekend.

- LordHumungous



This is pretty funny.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
This is pretty funny.
- Reubenkincade

Yup.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
Yup.
- Marwood


The lol ratio was a bit disappointing. Started off pretty weak, though gained momentum near the end.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 10 @ 2:49 AM ET
The lol ratio was a bit disappointing. Started off pretty weak, though gained momentum near the end.
- 1970vintage


Hmmm very true. Was lacking a lot of in sequence (ugly). Definitely taking away marks for that. Sad!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 10 @ 10:00 AM ET
Hmmm very true. Was lacking a lot of in sequence (ugly). Definitely taking away marks for that. Sad!
- NewYorkNuck


If he had ended it with “now watch [me hit] this drive” it would at least had comedic value.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 11 @ 12:43 AM ET
Just watched (rewatched) Weird Science. So much wrong with that movie, but man was it fun. Probably best to keep it from Gen Z or everyone involved would get cancelled.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 13 @ 7:54 AM ET
Clipped from an article…

Well, it didn’t take long for new Alberta Premier Danielle Smith to do a swan dive into the murky waters of delusion and political pandering.

Shortly after being sworn in Tuesday to replace Jason Kenney, Smith called those who refused vaccination against COVID-19 “the most discriminated against group that I’ve ever witnessed in my lifetime.”

That she could say so demonstrated to everyone who has faced true discrimination either (a) profound ignorance of both history and current realities or (b) bottomless capacity for pandering to the misplaced sense of victimhood in her right-wing base.


I thought the bolded was hilarious because it’s so true. “Misplaced sense of victimhood” is a perfect summary of what these people are like at both ends of the extreme; right and left.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 13 @ 8:12 AM ET
This is interesting and scary at the same time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/...ence-environment-63195653
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
This is interesting and scary at the same time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/...ence-environment-63195653

- bloatedmosquito

I bet they teach em how to drive a Zamboni next.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 13 @ 2:30 PM ET
I bet they teach em how to drive a Zamboni next.
- golfingsince

Can you put a petri dish in goal? or as some Repubilcans pronounce it peachtree dish.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
Can you put a petri dish in goal? or as some Repubilcans pronounce it peachtree dish.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I missed the 3rd. I was tired, it was 1 am. How was Demko?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
I bet they teach em how to drive a Zamboni next.
- golfingsince


That was gold. A bit mean, but still gold.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 13 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'd really like to see PP1 and PP2 changed substantially, especially if they're going to get so many opportunities. We have enough talent now IMO that we can send out 2 units.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 13 @ 4:35 PM ET
I'd really like to see PP1 and PP2 changed substantially, especially if they're going to get so many opportunities. We have enough talent now IMO that we can send out 2 units.
- golfingsince


I wonder if Jason King is the right person to run the team's power play? Obviously, the organization sees potential in him and the team did finish 9th in highest PP% last season. But it just seems so predictable. Thank god we have some quality snipers.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 13 @ 5:21 PM ET
I missed the 3rd. I was tired, it was 1 am. How was Demko?
- golfingsince

I didn't watch it.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 13 @ 5:22 PM ET
I wonder if Jason King is the right person to run the team's power play? Obviously, the organization sees potential in him and the team did finish 9th in highest PP% last season. But it just seems so predictable. Thank god we have some quality snipers.
- bloatedmosquito

Why aren't the Sedins running the PP?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Why aren't the Sedins running the PP?
- A_SteamingLombardi



It's so simple it's brilliant.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 14 @ 2:50 AM ET
Why aren't the Sedins running the PP?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass.... score. I mean, it's not that hard boys
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass.... score. I mean, it's not that hard boys
- NewYorkNuck


Bertuzzi told them once when they were cycling the puck on the boards

"I'm counting to 10 then I'm coming in to get it"
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Good article on Kuzmenko...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-pains-in-first-nhl-game/
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