Man i wish we could, it seems like in addition to Florida however, Panarin wants to play in NY, so either Isle or Rags. Also probably wouldn't mind a return to Chicago with Kaner still there, doesn't seem like the Fly guys are even on his radar. Money does talk though, and we have plenty of it.
- sjk540

The old days of teams saying "when we want a guy, we will go and spend the most to make sure we get them" days are over. Players know the short list of places they want to go and get the highest from those. If a team comes in last minute and offers the most and they're not on the list that means much less now.

The chances the Flyers land one of the big names (Panarin, Duchene, EK) is EXTREMELY low even if the organization will do anything to get one.

This update from Bill’s twitter:

“Phil Myers is, in fact, in the lineup for Team Canada today. Skating his first shift now. However, he hasn't played or practiced in a month. Literally off the plane and in the lineup today.”

This can be applied to any play. Where does it end? They can stop the play and review anything.
- MJL

If it keeps the game called correctly why not? I mean how many calls are missed? We're only talking about one or two calls a game, is it really that bad to ensure the game is being called correctly to take an extra 5 mins to review them? Last night the goal should not have stood. However, we wouldn't be taking about this gaffe had a review been done in game 7 vs Vegas, since San Jose would not even be playing.

You make it seem like we'd be adding on hours to the game, its a few minutes, to ensure the accuracy of the game. things are changing, they always do, other sports are adding more replay to uphold the integrity of the game, to ensure whoever wins should win. why is it such a huge problem for you?

The old days of teams saying "when we want a guy, we will go and spend the most to make sure we get them" days are over. Players know the short list of places they want to go and get the highest from those. If a team comes in last minute and offers the most and they're not on the list that means much less now.

The chances the Flyers land one of the big names (Panarin, Duchene, EK) is EXTREMELY low even if the organization will do anything to get one.
- Glak18

i think you missed the entire point of my post. No where was I saying I think we can throw money at a guy and they will come. my last sentence was just to indicate we do have the cap space to compete with other teams offering high contracts. the whole first part of my post was that if a guy has his heart set somewhere, the money may not matter....BUT.....we do have the money as well to offer if need be.

If it keeps the game called correctly why not? I mean how many calls are missed? We're only talking about one or two calls a game, is it really that bad to ensure the game is being called correctly to take an extra 5 mins to review them? Last night the goal should not have stood. However, we wouldn't be taking about this gaffe had a review been done in game 7 vs Vegas, since San Jose would not even be playing.

You make it seem like we'd be adding on hours to the game, its a few minutes, to ensure the accuracy of the game. things are changing, they always do, other sports are adding more replay to uphold the integrity of the game, to ensure whoever wins should win. why is it such a huge problem for you?
- sjk540

I don't think you're looking at this clearly. Who determines if a call is missed? If we apply the reviews to every situation it will lead to a ridiculous amount of reviews. If you make it so a team can only call for a review on one or two plays a game, we're right back to the same situation and the possibility of plays being missed. It is what it is. The human element of officiating is part of the game, Always has been.

i think you missed the entire point of my post. No where was I saying I think we can throw money at a guy and they will come. my last sentence was just to indicate we do have the cap space to compete with other teams offering high contracts. the whole first part of my post was that if a guy has his heart set somewhere, the money may not matter....BUT.....we do have the money as well to offer if need be.
- sjk540

I got your whole point, especially the part where you said "I wish". My response was to the bold part "money talks" and that is not the case like it used to be. If it was Tavares wouldn't be playing for Toronto.

Also my comment was a reply to you, but it really was directed at many Flyer fans. I expect no major UFA signings for the Flyers this offseason and I also expect A LOT fans regurgitating the "Flyers suck, they should of gotten X player", but the fact is players have more say where they go.

Could you imagine how long games would be if everything was reviewable? Refs are human too.

With that said, I don't know how they miss a hand pass. You would think that would be one of if not the easiest thing to spot . You're actually moving you arm to swat a puck. Not like it accidentally hit off his mit.

If it keeps the game called correctly why not? I mean how many calls are missed? We're only talking about one or two calls a game, is it really that bad to ensure the game is being called correctly to take an extra 5 mins to review them? Last night the goal should not have stood. However, we wouldn't be taking about this gaffe had a review been done in game 7 vs Vegas, since San Jose would not even be playing.

You make it seem like we'd be adding on hours to the game, its a few minutes, to ensure the accuracy of the game. things are changing, they always do, other sports are adding more replay to uphold the integrity of the game, to ensure whoever wins should win. why is it such a huge problem for you?
- sjk540

Lol. You know who you're dealing with, right?
Why bother arguing with a wall who only is open to one opinion....his own 🤷🏽‍♂️

Could you imagine how long games would be if everything was reviewable? Refs are human too.

With that said, I don't know how they miss a hand pass. You would think that would be one of if not the easiest thing to spot . You're actually moving you arm to swat a puck. Not like it accidentally hit off his mit.
- Pelle31Forever

All goals can have q quick phone call to Toronto for an official review. It's not that hard to figure this out. How many breaks should the sharks get to keep them advancing?
There are ways to address this and there needs to be. Hire two more guys in Toronto war room to keep goals legit.
With as much human error as weve seen just this playoff alone something needs to be done

Could you imagine how long games would be if everything was reviewable? Refs are human too.

With that said, I don't know how they miss a hand pass. You would think that would be one of if not the easiest thing to spot . You're actually moving you arm to swat a puck. Not like it accidentally hit off his mit.
- Pelle31Forever

Why do reviews have to take so long?

Easy solution is to have an off-ice official do real time reviews of the basics (off-sides, high sticks, anything you can imagine). I mean hundreds of thousands, millions during the playoffs, are already doing that by watching the telecast of the game. If there is a dispute then an off-ice official could be reviewing while everyone is complaining and it would take 20 secs to relay the call to the ice.

The whole...must be reviewed in a central location is the dumbest thing.

im ok with the play
- KINGKENZO

I’m ok too cause the refs didn’t call this trip leading to the play
https://www.reddit.com/r/...=share&utm_medium=ios_app

I don't think you're looking at this clearly. Who determines if a call is missed? If we apply the reviews to every situation it will lead to a ridiculous amount of reviews. If you make it so a team can only call for a review on one or two plays a game, we're right back to the same situation and the possibility of plays being missed. It is what it is. The human element of officiating is part of the game, Always has been.
- MJL

"The human element of officiating is part of the game" and that's the issue. We can can review an offisides call after the play has gone on for a minute but can't review if the puck hit the netting or was a handpass. Where does it start should be the question they need to answer.

I’m ok too cause the refs didn’t call this trip leading to the play
https://www.reddit.com/r/...=share&utm_medium=ios_app
- 2Real

I'm ok with the trip because it takes away how bad Martin Jones really is.

I don't think you're looking at this clearly. Who determines if a call is missed? If we apply the reviews to every situation it will lead to a ridiculous amount of reviews. If you make it so a team can only call for a review on one or two plays a game, we're right back to the same situation and the possibility of plays being missed. It is what it is. The human element of officiating is part of the game, Always has been.
- MJL

You're taking this way too far guy. Every play does not need to be reviewed, every situation doesn't need to be reviewed, the point is that IF there is a doubt or question of a pivotal decision, it can be reviewed. You make it seem like every time a team tags up and enters the zone play will be stopped for it to be reviewed. I get that whole human element part, but if its blatantly wrong and blatantly flawed, why not change. Change is necessary, in sports, in work, in life. Why are you being so stubborn?

I also disagree with the second part of your statement, if you make it where they can review 1 or 2 calls a game, we're right back to where we are? No, because if that were true then we wouldn't be talking about this. That's all it really is, 1 or 2 plays a game that could be questionable. Most of the time refs have flawless games, however recently that hasn't been the case. I think everyone from the NHL on down would sleep better knowing that all plays were called right so that there was no question that the results were correct either. Yet you want to let games be called with glaring mistakes so that the results are maybe not should have happened, just because this is how its always been??? get outta here!

I got your whole point, especially the part where you said "I wish". My response was to the bold part "money talks" and that is not the case like it used to be. If it was Tavares wouldn't be playing for Toronto.

Also my comment was a reply to you, but it really was directed at many Flyer fans. I expect no major UFA signings for the Flyers this offseason and I also expect A LOT fans regurgitating the "Flyers suck, they should of gotten X player", but the fact is players have more say where they go.
- Glak18

I know, but my whole money talks point was a larger point to the entire message. It doesnt matter now, but a specific example would be if a player didnt have a pre-determined place to go in his mind (Tavares clearly wanted to be in Toronto, a decade ago Dan Hamhuis clearly wanted to be in Vancouver, a couple years ago, Stamkos clearly wanted to stay with Tampa, etc.etc. etc), his sole motivator is just looking for the biggest offer. if that was the specific case, we would be able to be in those talks since we have that cap space. thats all im saying in regards to the money talks thing.

I got your whole point, especially the part where you said "I wish". My response was to the bold part "money talks" and that is not the case like it used to be. If it was Tavares wouldn't be playing for Toronto.

Also my comment was a reply to you, but it really was directed at many Flyer fans. I expect no major UFA signings for the Flyers this offseason and I also expect A LOT fans regurgitating the "Flyers suck, they should of gotten X player", but the fact is players have more say where they go.
- Glak18

100% correct here, in this cap era, the players know the money will be there, its really where they wanna be thats important.

Lol. You know who you're dealing with, right?
Why bother arguing with a wall who only is open to one opinion....his own 🤷🏽‍♂️
- sILKAsSINASALO

Haha yeah I know, but sometimes work is slow and I have nothing better to do than to try to make a wall crack.

You're taking this way too far guy. Every play does not need to be reviewed, every situation doesn't need to be reviewed, the point is that IF there is a doubt or question of a pivotal decision, it can be reviewed. You make it seem like every time a team tags up and enters the zone play will be stopped for it to be reviewed. I get that whole human element part, but if its blatantly wrong and blatantly flawed, why not change. Change is necessary, in sports, in work, in life. Why are you being so stubborn?

I also disagree with the second part of your statement, if you make it where they can review 1 or 2 calls a game, we're right back to where we are? No, because if that were true then we wouldn't be talking about this. That's all it really is, 1 or 2 plays a game that could be questionable. Most of the time refs have flawless games, however recently that hasn't been the case. I think everyone from the NHL on down would sleep better knowing that all plays were called right so that there was no question that the results were correct either. Yet you want to let games be called with glaring mistakes so that the results are maybe not should have happened, just because this is how its always been??? get outta here!
- sjk540

I personally find the NHL officiating hilarious now. The whole point of having a 2 Ref system was to have one ALWAYS watching the puck and the other watching away from it, yet more calls seem to be missed since they switched to the current system.

These "miscalls" are becoming more and more blatant (season and playoffs) that you really have to wonder if they aren't done on purpose. Human error is understandable, but with the amount of cameras and angles there are now every fan can literally go back to replay and see refs looking directly at plays and just not calling it...that's not human error.

I personally find the NHL officiating hilarious now. The whole point of having a 2 Ref system was to have one ALWAYS watching the puck and the other watching away from it, yet more calls seem to be missed since they switched to the current system.

These "miscalls" are becoming more and more blatant (season and playoffs) that you really have to wonder if they aren't done on purpose. Human error is understandable, but with the amount of cameras and angles there are now every fan can literally go back to replay and see refs looking directly at plays and just not calling it...that's not human error.
- Glak18

exactly right! we can review offsides two minutes after a play call, or a goal that may not have looked like a goal at first but is then automatically reviewed in toronto and then the horn can sound 30 seconds later, the horn blows, play is stopped to call the good goal, yet we cant take 5 minutes to see if it was a hand pass, or a cross check to the face??? its gotta be a two way street here, guys like MJL stuck in this black and white narrative is sad. If everything were black and white it would be a real cold world.

I think all goals should be reviewed just like the NFL and TD's. This would include goalie interference and offsides among other things. Coaches should have one challenge outside of that. That would include anything else (puck going out of play, high sticking, puck crossing the line/no goal calls any black or white calls). Any discretionary calls should then be left to the refs.

I think all goals should be reviewed just like the NFL and TD's. This would include goalie interference and offsides among other things. Coaches should have one challenge outside of that. That would include anything else (puck going out of play, high sticking, puck crossing the line/no goal calls any black or white calls). Any discretionary calls should then be left to the refs.
- mickel25

agreed, done and done. why would this be so hard to allow?

I personally find the NHL officiating hilarious now. The whole point of having a 2 Ref system was to have one ALWAYS watching the puck and the other watching away from it, yet more calls seem to be missed since they switched to the current system.

These "miscalls" are becoming more and more blatant (season and playoffs) that you really have to wonder if they aren't done on purpose. Human error is understandable, but with the amount of cameras and angles there are now every fan can literally go back to replay and see refs looking directly at plays and just not calling it...that's not human error.
- Glak18

The hand pass last night was pretty obvious. However, I feel like the refs having to judge in real time get it right 95% of the time. We all have the luxury of slowed down multi angle replays before having to decide. I do think all goals should be reviewed.

agreed, done and done. why would this be so hard to allow?
- sjk540

You could even allow them to retain the challenge if the call is overturned. No penalty for getting it wrong other than the loss of the ability to challenge.

The hand pass last night was pretty obvious. However, I feel like the refs having to judge in real time get it right 95% of the time. We all have the luxury of slowed down multi angle replays before having to decide. I do think all goals should be reviewed.
- mickel25

To be honest with the technology available every sport could be called without officials, well with hockey you would need one to drop the puck and that's it. The only thing stopping that is the traditionalists who feel imperfection is part of the game, but in reality every game could be called flawless. Sports is about competition and it is suppose to show who is the best that game or that season or that playoffs, but as soon as mistakes are accepted that tarnishes true competition.

These same slo-motion replays are available to the refs, hell the coaches see the replays before the ref makes announcements on reviews. The problem with the system is the NHL cherry picks what gets reviewed and when. Every year the league has a meeting with ALL teams to sort this out, yet they decide to only discuss what is hot at the moment. This could of been all fleshed out decades ago.

Remember this obvious miscall wasn't missed by ONE ref...it was missed by FOUR officials, linesmen are allowed to communicate to the refs if they see something that is missed, but sadly ego plays a big part in it.

The hand pass last night was pretty obvious. However, I feel like the refs having to judge in real time get it right 95% of the time. We all have the luxury of slowed down multi angle replays before having to decide. I do think all goals should be reviewed.
- mickel25

reviewing all goals would not make me want to watch hockey

it would be boring as hell for all the stoppages