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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
Who the (frank) is James Charles and why is the internet trying to make me know of him?
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

May 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
Dude, have you been watching San Jose?



I dislike Boston as much as the next guy but they have nothing on San Jose in these playoffs.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Maybe...

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
you aren't suggesting that the officiating has been tilted in San Jose's favor are you?

really? you want to go there?


- BorjeFan4Ever

Uh yeah I am very willing to go there. Have you seen what’s going on with San Jose?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
Dude, have you been watching San Jose?



I dislike Boston as much as the next guy but they have nothing on San Jose in these playoffs.

- GreatGigInTheSky



its completely fair to say that the Sharks have had the benefit of some calls that had huge individual effects.. no question.

difference is the Bruins have benefited from "missed calls" and inconsistent judgements ... the douchebaggery which they were not adequately penalized for is different than the opportunities given to the Sharks.

no Bruins fan would ever admit it ... but they simply cannot deny that their players have consistently been given the benefit of the doubt, where others received much worse, much more consequently penalties.

if you want a laugh, go back and listen to the Bruins coverage after Marc Savard was hit by Matt Cooke or when Neil kneed Marchand in the head, and when Thornton attacks Orpik

then go listen to the coverage after McAvoy's hit on Anderson.

the hypocrisy that unites us all.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
its completely fair to say that the Sharks have had the benefit of some calls that had huge individual effects.. no question.

difference is the Bruins have benefited from "missed calls" and inconsistent judgements ... the douchebaggery which they were not adequately penalized for is different than the opportunities given to the Sharks.

no Bruins fan would ever admit it ... but they simply cannot deny that their players have consistently been given the benefit of the doubt, where others received much worse, much more consequently penalties.

if you want a laugh, go back and listen to the Bruins coverage after Marc Savard was hit by Matt Cooke or when Neil kneed Marchand in the head, and when Thornton attacks Orpik

then go listen to the coverage after McAvoy's hit on Anderson.

the hypocrisy that unites us all.

- BorjeFan4Ever
ok.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Interesting topic for Yost today on TSN. Too bad he chose this one to make a short article. He could have gone deeper with this, instead of some of the other drivel he comes up with.


https://www.tsn.ca/game-m...iciating-issues-1.1307201
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Uh yeah I am very willing to go there. Have you seen what’s going on with San Jose?
- RickJames77


I don't know... I personally don't equate crappy calls (San Jose benefits) with ignore or encouraged douchebaggery (Bruins #1 poster boy)...

I find it interesting how a team that's relatively heavily penalized in the regular season instantly changes into the snow white from the officials perspective, despite countless video clips clearly illustrating the exact opposite?

I guess I'm just naive
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 1:12 PM ET
Bruins got gifted the final.
- RickJames77

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
I don't know... I personally don't equate crappy calls (San Jose benefits) with ignore or encouraged douchebaggery (Bruins #1 poster boy)...

I find it interesting how a team that's relatively heavily penalized in the regular season instantly changes into the snow white from the officials perspective, despite countless video clips clearly illustrating the exact opposite?

I guess I'm just naive

- BorjeFan4Ever

Your argument was that the Bruins have benefited from missed calls whereas with the Sharks it’s been bad calls that they benefited from. I wasn’t aware someone called that hand pass legal. Here I was thinking it was missed.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
This is wonderful.

Thanks George R.R. Martin

- RickJames77


If it was George RR Martin, his post would not have shown up for another 8 years or so.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
If it was George RR Martin, his post would not have shown up for another 8 years or so.
- Aetherial

Very true.

It would’ve been more sexually charged as well
corunnakid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sarnia, ON
Joined: 05.06.2013

May 17 @ 1:16 PM ET



Kinda like someone naming their kid, Jesus... cause those are not big shoes to fill

- PatC80




Sandals
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
Very true.

It would’ve been more sexually charged as well

- RickJames77



Did you read the Yost article.

He really only has one basic point to make but he is dead on and it is about time someone called out the league on this.

It especially hurts as a Leafs fan. They built a team with virtually no physical presence. They publicly came out and said that their powerplay would be their response and then they were given somewhere near the fewest in the league.

Truth is, most games are going to end up within a penalty or two difference for either team, at most.

Boston is one of the teams that has figured that out. Might as well play on the edge all the time when you know that at some point 1) You aren't going to be penalized anymore and 2) The other team will have a bunch of make-up calls against them anyway.

Boston is the best team in the league right now because their special teams are better than everyone else's, so as long as the penalties are close, they'll win.

(Rask being lights out doesn't hurt )
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Your argument was that the Bruins have benefited from missed calls whereas with the Sharks it’s been bad calls that they benefited from. I wasn’t aware someone called that hand pass legal. Here I was thinking it was missed.
- RickJames77


its not an argument, I fully recognize that no Bruin fan, whether reasonable or complete Richard is going to acknowledge bias in officiating. Not Leaf would do the same - IF they were in the same situation.

what I'm identifying is a difference between and obvious missed call (such as the hand pass in the Sharks-Blues game) which had a direct and almost immediate impact

versus

a set of ignored infractions on the part of the officials (can't say they missed them because the officials were queried about them and suggested that they weren't penalties in their opinion after the fact)... the knee by Debrusk, the cross check by Kuraly on Muzzin, the Chara cowardly cheap shot on Tavares in the scrum, the Chara jump and elbow on Muzzin... and I won't even reference Marchand's garbage.

I do find it curious that Kadri suspension for 3-5 games for a head shot/cross check was handed out so generously ... but it took a day and half for the league to actually issue a statement... probably because they knew their was mitigating circumstances.

I'm not going to give you the commentary that any of these infractions being properly called would have changed the outcome of the series, I leave that up to individuals to judge for themselves.

But you simply cannot ignore the fact that there multiple "dangerous hit" type infractions that were not met with appropriate penalties or suspension. To say the Bruins haven't benefited from shyte/uneven/unbalanced or just plain crap officiating would be dumb.

What was Marchand attempting to do with his stick wrapped around Williams neck - or was that just a "hockey play"?

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
Does anyone have a good handle on what the Leafs are facing when expansion hits?
/
Does it impact who they can bring up this year from the Marlies?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Did you read the Yost article.

He really only has one basic point to make but he is dead on and it is about time someone called out the league on this.

It especially hurts as a Leafs fan. They built a team with virtually no physical presence. They publicly came out and said that their powerplay would be their response and then they were given somewhere near the fewest in the league.

Truth is, most games are going to end up within a penalty or two difference for either team, at most.

Boston is one of the teams that has figured that out. Might as well play on the edge all the time when you know that at some point 1) You aren't going to be penalized anymore and 2) The other team will have a bunch of make-up calls against them anyway.

Boston is the best team in the league right now because their special teams are better than everyone else's, so as long as the penalties are close, they'll win.

(Rask being lights out doesn't hurt )

- Aetherial


yup - nicely stated.

the question to the NHL league offices needs to be... are the rules the same in the regular season? and the playoffs? why are they different?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
Does anyone have a good handle on what the Leafs are facing when expansion hits?
/
Does it impact who they can bring up this year from the Marlies?

- Aetherial



they should be okay... that's why we didn't see either Sandin or Lillygreen this year.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
yup - nicely stated.

the question to the NHL league offices needs to be... are the rules the same in the regular season? and the playoffs? why are they different?

- BorjeFan4Ever


It's always been different.

It probably shouldn't be. But it's always been like this.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

May 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
yup - nicely stated.

the question to the NHL league offices needs to be... are the rules the same in the regular season? and the playoffs? why are they different?

- BorjeFan4Ever


I think a better scenario is to look at the blatant miscalls and get to the bottom of what happened. When the Commissioner of the League has to call teams and apologize for poor officiating then that league is in crisis.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
I think a better scenario is to look at the blatant miscalls and get to the bottom of what happened. When the Commissioner of the League has to call teams and apologize for poor officiating then that league is in crisis.
- TrashPanda


He apologized to vegas. Once.

I doubt he does it again.

He didn't call Colorado for the goal taken away or the missed trip on Mackinnon.

You won't see him call St-Louis for the handpass.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Does anyone have a good handle on what the Leafs are facing when expansion hits?
/
Does it impact who they can bring up this year from the Marlies?

- Aetherial

Im trying to get a handle on what im gonna have for dinner tonight.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

May 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
He apologized to vegas. Once.

I doubt he does it again.

He didn't call Colorado for the goal taken away or the missed trip on Mackinnon.

You won't see him call St-Louis for the handpass.

- Scabeh


He called Toronto over Game 2 of that series as well.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

May 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
Im trying to get a handle on what im gonna have for dinner tonight.
- Fakepartofme


Yeah, me too.

I'm off work today so I might get my propane tank filled.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
Exactly
Muzzin was one of the leafs players that stepped up in the playoffs. He simply played great.
It was a good trade for the leafs.
Not sure what the complaining is about on this one.

- Fakepartofme

Because without complaining all that's left is a horrible black void.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
He called Toronto over Game 2 of that series as well.
- TrashPanda


Did he now?

I haven't seen an article about it.

Unlike the millions about the Vegas apology.

Link?
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