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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
I'm thinking Bo Byram takes over as PP QB.
- EbonyRaptor

Doesn’t matter who takes over. On a team with plenty of talent capable of reliably putting up strong offensive numbers 5 on 5, a top notch PK is more important than a high flying PP. Obviously you’d love to have both, but if it’s one or the other, I’d take the PK any day. This team will score plenty.
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

May 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
What I find interesting and a little bit troublesome with where the Hawks are picking is that alot of good players chosen but the best come after the top four selections. Talking about 2012 draft
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'm thinking Bo Byram takes over as PP QB.
- EbonyRaptor


What year? 2 or 3 years from now? I don't like the thought of a newly drafted dman being asked to deal with that pressure.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Plus, I’m tired of the “getting the band back together” mentality. It was great, now it’s over. Move on. I get that people are comfortable with what they know, but we don’t need to recycle all of the names from Championship teams past.
- Ogilthorpe2


Point taken, perhaps the Frolik of the past isn’t the Frolik of the future. However, the main point of the conversation was that a player of his ilk is an important need for the Hawks. Bottom-six, defensively sound, good on the PK.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Point taken, perhaps the Frolik of the past isn’t the Frolik of the future. However, the main point of the conversation was that a player of his ilk is an important need for the Hawks. Bottom-six, defensively sound, good on the PK.
- Chief4Feathers


You make a good point. In some cases, a guy coming back can make sense if they properly fill a need and the price is right. Not all of it is getting the band back together, sometimes it is just a useful player for the right price. I also do hope they avoid bringing back players just because they used to be Hawks. If it makes hockey sense, I'm for it.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
Plus, I’m tired of the “getting the band back together” mentality. It was great, now it’s over. Move on. I get that people are comfortable with what they know, but we don’t need to recycle all of the names from Championship teams past.
- Ogilthorpe2

I would qualify the "getting the band back together" mentality a bit. Agree with you that it's a bad approach if the former Hawk has degraded ever since leaving the team. However, that approach isn't automatically bad if the former Hawk actually got better since their tenure in Chicago. That is the case for Frolik, at least. He's 31 so I would think he has another few years of solid play before he starts declining.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
You make a good point. In some cases, a guy coming back can make sense if they properly fill a need and the price is right. Not all of it is getting the band back together, sometimes it is just a useful player for the right price. I also do hope they avoid bringing back players just because they used to be Hawks. If it makes hockey sense, I'm for it.
- breadbag

Your last point is spot on. Put aside the fact that Frolik is an ex-Hawk. He is still one of the better 3rd liners in the league regardless so why not at least kick the tires on him.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

May 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
What year? 2 or 3 years from now? I don't like the thought of a newly drafted dman being asked to deal with that pressure.
- breadbag


OK - Boqvist then.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Plus, I’m tired of the “getting the band back together” mentality. It was great, now it’s over. Move on. I get that people are comfortable with what they know, but we don’t need to recycle all of the names from Championship teams past.
- Ogilthorpe2



Generally I agree, but Frolik is the exception.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'm thinking Bo Byram takes over as PP QB.
- EbonyRaptor

Frankly, the puck goes through Kane on the PP
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
Capfriendly has updated their pages showing the 19/20 cap at 83M. Hawks have 17 players on the roster with 20.4M in cap space.

RFAs to be signed include Sikura, Kampf, Perrlini Forsling, and several AHLers. The Hawks can sign the first four all for about 5M, add Kubalik for 1M and field a team and still lhave over 14M in cap space.

Don't think most of the fans and STHs will be happy with that. Yes Stan needs some cap space reserved for the following year RFAs. ,but I see him adding about 5-8M in salaries vi trades or FA
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

May 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
Frankly, the puck goes through Kane on the PP
- riozzo


True, and actually anyone not named Keith should be OK playing Gustafsson's role in the 4+1 PP alignment.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
Doesn’t matter who takes over. On a team with plenty of talent capable of reliably putting up strong offensive numbers 5 on 5, a top notch PK is more important than a high flying PP. Obviously you’d love to have both, but if it’s one or the other, I’d take the PK any day. This team will score plenty.
- Ogilthorpe2


So if our PK gives up 10 less goals per season and the PP scores 10 less goals per season we come out a head? That does not seem right.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
I would qualify the "getting the band back together" mentality a bit. Agree with you that it's a bad approach if the former Hawk has degraded ever since leaving the team. However, that approach isn't automatically bad if the former Hawk actually got better since their tenure in Chicago. That is the case for Frolik, at least. He's 31 so I would think he has another few years of solid play before he starts declining.
- AEL_Fox


Agree. It would be a hockey trade.

A 1 year rental at $4.3 mil.

Last year:
16 goals (2 short handed)
18 assists
in only 13+ minutes per night
65 games
plus 24
PK specialist.
Good fancy tats.

I would be ok with that.

I would give Forsling (after signing) and our 4th round pick. They need some cap space.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.09.2009

May 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
So if our PK gives up 10 less goals per season and the PP scores 10 less goals per season we come out a head? That does not seem right.
- -Doh-

Well obviously not by that math, but when you have the offensive weapons that the Hawks have, you know they’re gonna get theirs one way or another. IMO it’s more important to lock down the defensive side of special teams. If the Hawks were an offensively challenged team like, for example, a lot of the Preds teams of the past, then I’d be more concerned about having a stellar PP in order to compensate for the team’s even strength offensive shortcomings.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
Frankly, the puck goes through Kane on the PP
- riozzo

Assuming he is resigned and is on the team (I for one think he is playing top 9 right out of the gate), I would consider Sikura playing Kane's role on the 2nd unit. Sikura played that role in Rockford and did well. Great vision, hands, smooth passer, and poised.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
Assuming he is resigned and is on the team (I for one think he is playing top 9 right out of the gate), I would consider Sikura playing Kane's role on the 2nd unit. Sikura played that role in Rockford and did well. Great vision, hands, smooth passer, and poised.
- AEL_Fox

I'd like to see the kid net one in the first game and start off with some confidence. He has to feel snake bit.
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

May 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
I bet Stan is going to come out of left field and select that goalie, Spencer Knight, with #3
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 17 @ 5:54 PM ET
I think the Hawks will re-draft 37 year old Pavel Vorobyev. He went 11th overall in 2000, but this time I see him going #3.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
University of Denver names Mitchell as team captain for next season. Great accolade and experience for him. IIRC, he wore an A for Team Canada at the recent WJC in December.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
The Rangers get the Stars 2020 1st round pick.



DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 6:17 PM ET
University of Denver names Mitchell as team captain for next season. Great accolade and experience for him. IIRC, he wore an A for Team Canada at the recent WJC in December.
- AEL_Fox



One step closer to pulling a Hayes.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think the Hawks will re-draft 37 year old Pavel Vorobyev. He went 11th overall in 2000, but this time I see him going #3.
- breadbag


If he’s still sporting the uni-brow, then yes, he’s a lock for #3.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
One step closer to pulling a Hayes.
- DarthKane


I hope not, but it seems to be drifting toward that outcome.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
I think the Hawks will re-draft 37 year old Pavel Vorobyev. He went 11th overall in 2000, but this time I see him going #3.
- breadbag



I was hoping they could coax Sergei Krivokrasov out of retirement.
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