Sandin has been amazing. What he's doing at 18 is certainly overshadowing lilegren somewhat, but it don't think that means that lilegren isn't progressing.

They just started using him against tougher completion and he's responded very well.
- burn

May not see either of them on the Leafs roster for another 2 years then unless cap troubles force them into action. Could use one to clear some cap space.

May not see either of them on the Leafs roster for another 2 years then unless cap troubles force them into action. Could use one to clear some cap space.
- manvanfan

They're both here in 2 years gauranteed, most likely see them at some point this year even

Edit: by "here" i mean in the nhl. I doubt they trade both, but you never know. They are both cheap cap hits for a couple years and that is what they need right now.

May not see either of them on the Leafs roster for another 2 years then unless cap troubles force them into action. Could use one to clear some cap space.
- manvanfan

2 years? No chance.

They're both here in 2 years gauranteed, most likely see them at some point this year even

Edit: by "here" i mean in the nhl. I doubt they trade both, but you never know. They are both cheap cap hits for a couple years and that is what they need right now.
- burn

They are both cheap hits which makes most sense but playing them in the NHL before they are ready may stall development. My guess it Hainsey and other cheap more experienced are brought in to fill the gap till they are ready.

So do the Leafs.

It entirely depends on the amount of cap space the Leafs have on day one of the regular season. Not in week three of May, June, July or August. It’s not an issue for them right now.
- Pacificgem

You honestly think the Leafs, who now employ the person who wrote the rules on the NHL salary cap won't put themselves in position to have that 5.3 million?

You’re so dumb it’s painful, Hortons cap doesn’t affect the Leafs, the same as every cap hit the Coyotes took on to acquire picks.

Lucic and Eriksson are examples of bad salaries that cannot be buried. Permanent LTIR salaries are not a cap issue.
- Pacificgem

Horton's 5.3 million COUNTED against the Leafs' cap this season. It won't next season.

1) yet
2) Nucker

I’ll let you guess which parts I’m replying to.
- 1970vintage

1) Lucic
2) New GM

They are both cheap hits which makes most sense but playing them in the NHL before they are ready may stall development. My guess it Hainsey and other cheap more experienced are brought in to fill the gap till they are ready.
- manvanfan

They’re ready.

Hainsey isn’t cheap

They’re ready.

Hainsey isn’t cheap
- burn

Ready to be 1st pairing defenders in the AHL for the first time?

sure whatever, get creative and get a couple more assets
- VanHockeyGuy

Some people go out and spend 500 dollars on lotto tickets and most of the time it is the poor immigrant couple that work at Mcdonalds that buy one ticket that win.

Every now and then you get a really bright bunch that out math the odds and win but that is rare.

If a scouting team knows what they are doing then 7 picks is plenty.

Oh boy more Leafs talk. We can never get enough of that.

We are not trading our 10 th for Wilma.

Some people go out and spend 500 dollars on lotto tickets and most of the time it is the poor immigrant couple that work at Mcdonalds that buy one ticket that win.

Every now and then you get a really bright bunch that out math the odds and win but that is rare.

If a scouting team knows what they are doing then 7 picks is plenty.
- VANTEL

In Benning we trust

Oh boy more Leafs talk. We can never get enough of that.

We are not trading our 10 th for Wilma.
- VANTEL

You are right, Vancouver is going to trade down spots instead to get a RHD where he belongs to be taken and picking up another asset in the process

In Benning we trust
- manvanfan

Their last two have been Calder contenders and Hughes might be also. That is decent I would say.

Ready to be 1st pairing defenders in the AHL for the first time?
- manvanfan

So they are basically where you hope OJ will be in the next two years ?

So they are basically where you hope OJ will be in the next two years ?
- Redmile247

Petey just scored

Oh boy more Leafs talk. We can never get enough of that.

We are not trading our 10 th for Wilma.
- VANTEL

It’s your 10th and JV right 😉

- VANTEL

Is that JV doing some off season training or post nhl career prep ? 🤔

It’s your 10th and JV right 😉
- Redmile247

I would rather keep the 10 th and draft a Swede that back checks

Is that JV doing some off season training or post nhl career prep ? 🤔
- Redmile247

Rumor is JV for Hanafin so he is training to be a Flame

Rumor is JV for Hanafin so he is training to be a Flame
- VANTEL

Hanifin the younger Gardiner (Maybe with a slight bit more knowledge of defending).

I might only hate Hanifin because Neem was trying to tell me he's a 1st pairing defender. (he's not)

Hanifin the younger Gardiner (Maybe with a slight bit more knowledge of defending)
- manvanfan

You do know there is no real rumor right?

Just me and Red joking around

I would rather keep the 10 th and draft a Swede that back checks
- VANTEL

So basically a Landeskog ...hopefully they can avoid all those injuries

Rumor is JV for Hanafin so he is training to be a Flame
- VANTEL

Lol when did chia pet become the flames GM 🤔