Pretty sure that was a troll job but i guess credit for an honest answer.
- ClaudeFather

Just trying to do my part to make this place worth coming to again.....

Just trying to do my part to make this place worth coming to again.....
- MBFlyerfan

We all appreciate it, today has been quiet but good, not much garbage.

rather have Mcabb from vegas than miller

Right now, the Flyers have:

Provorov
Sanheim
Myers
Gostisbehere
Morin
Gudas
Hagg

Considering this, not a ton. He's a decent player, and an in-prime RHD is never a bad thing to have, but I don't see a severe need for him given our current roster. I think he'd be the RHD on the 2nd pair (above Gudas) so maybe a 2nd and one of Gudas/Hagg, which LV wouldn't accept.
- jmatchett383

Vegas needs CAP space badly

I can see a trade for granlund as a stopgap 2C

The upgrade at center I think is coming via a trade
- Just5

I’m more open to a trade for a center st the right price, rather than overpaying for a center in free agency.

I certainly hope they are able to get a 2c on a short term deal.(2-3 years) as sort of a bridge to Patrick and Frost.

I take the long view with Giroux (I know you disagree and your POV has a lot of merit) but I feel like the move to wing has and will prolong Giroux's effectiveness as we move forward and become true contenders in the next few years.

In a perfect world I would love to see them sign Justin Williams to a 2 year deal but I know that wont happen. But it serves to illustrate how I want it to play out. Rather than overpay and blow up the future by signing someone to a high cap, long term deal that will hurt them when the kids start making the big bucks. But that is just me.
- MBFlyerfan

I wanted Williams back ten years ago. That ship has sailed for me. We had ever reason to believe he wanted to return by coming back in the offseason to practice and bring family with our guys. Of course nothing had happened.

At the same time, this is coming from a guy who would still take Simmonds back for two seasons or less at 3.5 or less in a lesser role.

I’m more open to a trade for a center st the right price, rather than overpaying for a center in free agency.
- SuperSchennBros

It really is about weighing one cost against the other. I like the idea of a trade more than over paying (both in cap and term)in UFA for sure.

But if they can get a reasonably priced vet for 2-3 years I would prefer the UFA over trading assets. (even if they have to overpay a little)

Like with the Simmonds discussions, I am more worried about term than short range cap hit.

No long term big cap deals if they can help it. (unless that player is young and you can be reasonably sure they will still be productive at the end of the deal.)

7D is a good spot for Hagg.
- Feanor

If the players skated ahead of Hagg are Provorov, Sanheim, Gudas, Gostisbehere, Myers, MacDonald, Morin, I 100% disagree. Mac I don’t even want anymore and Morin we don’t even know what he can offer on a nightly basis.

Robert Hagg is an NHL player,

It really is about weighing one cost against the other. I like the idea of a trade more than over paying (both in cap and term)in UFA for sure.

But if they can get a reasonably priced vet for 2-3 years I would prefer the UFA over trading assets. (even if they have to overpay a little)

Like with the Simmonds discussions, I am more worried about term than short range cap hit.

No long term big cap deals if they can help it. (unless that player is young and you can be reasonably sure they will still be productive at the end of the deal.)
- MBFlyerfan

what vet out there can you see taking a 2/3 year deal?

flyers have many picks/prospects at this time. Cant sign or keep em all, especially with another full set of picks coming up; trade may be the best route if looking short term

What typically happens when a RFA is unable to work out a long term deal with their current team? Is this when they would go to arbitration? Does the arbitrator suggest a 1 year deal for the upcoming season for that player to remain with their current team, then the player becomes a UFA after playing out that one year deal?
Thanks

what vet out there can you see taking a 2/3 year deal?

flyers have many picks/prospects at this time. Cant sign or keep em all, especially with another full set of picks coming up; trade may be the best route if looking short term
- daryl stanley

Maybe a player like Marcus Johansson you could get on a 3 year. Although I wouldn’t count on him to hold up as the 2C. Need a better player

Maybe a player like Marcus Johansson you could get on a 3 year. Although I wouldn’t count on him to hold up as the 2C. Need a better player
- Just5

He is a good player, just not durable. Guy is often injured.

Maybe a player like Marcus Johansson you could get on a 3 year. Although I wouldn’t count on him to hold up as the 2C. Need a better player
- Just5

I think he's a really good 3C who can slot up as a 2C for a while without an issue. But yeah, just a step down from a consistent 2C. If we still think Patrick can evolve into that 2C sooner than later, it wouldn't be a bad idea to use Johansson as the 2C for a while and not force Patrick into the 2C spot right off the bat.

He is a good player, just not durable. Guy is often injured.
- ClaudeFather

There's no accounting for Brad Marchand "protecting himself" with flying elbows.

Bill, do you think the Flyers would consider moving Voracek to center? He is more of a shooter than passer and with the right wings it might work. Also, he would give them some size in the middle. Giroux to wing worked Voracek to center might also.
- 54fightin

Voracek is more pass first than shoot first. Doesn't have the all around game to play center.

There's no accounting for Brad Marchand "protecting himself" with flying elbows.


- jmatchett383

The equivalent of Jimbo and his boy from South Park saying "they're coming right for us" and then proceeding to shoot all the animals". Protect yourself at all costs haha.

There's no accounting for Brad Marchand "protecting himself" with flying elbows.


- jmatchett383

5 game suspension. Johansson was out for 50+. (frank)ing joke

5 games suspension. Johansson was out for 50+. Go league
- Just5

If they want to start suspending players for as long as the player they hit is injured, then how many games do you think Nick Leddy would have been "injured" from the McDavid hit? How many weeks would Raffl have been "injured" from Malkin's swing and a miss?

If they want to start suspending players for as long as the player they hit is injured, then how many games do you think Nick Leddy would have been "injured" from the McDavid hit? How many weeks would Raffl have been "injured" from Malkin's swing and a miss?
- jmatchett383

Sounds like a good deterrent to me.

Vegas needs CAP space badly
- wcorvette

They overpaid all their players. (frank) em.

Sounds like a good deterrent to me.
- Just5

So you think most players who are suspended think before they act?

Edit: When they commit their suspendible actions

It really is about weighing one cost against the other. I like the idea of a trade more than over paying (both in cap and term)in UFA for sure.

But if they can get a reasonably priced vet for 2-3 years I would prefer the UFA over trading assets. (even if they have to overpay a little)

Like with the Simmonds discussions, I am more worried about term than short range cap hit.

No long term big cap deals if they can help it. (unless that player is young and you can be reasonably sure they will still be productive at the end of the deal.)
- MBFlyerfan

I’ve already thrown our my reliably priced vet in UFA guy, they I would offer a deal. Brian Boyle. To me Boyle is a low risk, high reward player. I can’t even begin to tell you how turned off I am by the idea of signing Kevin Hayes. Look, I get it. He got 54 points last season and he’s a consistent mid 40’s point guy but he’s probably gonna wanna be paid like a top center. I don’t wanna Bobby Holik Hayes like the Rangers did. I’m not gonna spit shine a turd and tell you it’s beautiful. The idea of paying Hayes more than Couturier, right now, today, makes me cringe.

I’ve already thrown our my reliably priced vet in UFA guy, they I would offer a deal. Brian Boyle. To me Boyle is a low risk, high reward player. I can’t even begin to tell you how turned off I am by the idea of signing Kevin Hayes. Look, I get it. He got 54 points last season and he’s a consistent mid 40’s point guy but he’s probably gonna wanna be paid like a top center. I don’t wanna Bobby Holik Hayes like the Rangers did. I’m not gonna spit shine a turd and tell you it’s beautiful. The idea of paying Hayes more than Couturier, right now, today, makes me cringe.
- SuperSchennBros

I have no respect, as far as hockey goes, for Brian Boyle after the Karlsson/Carkner incident.

I have no respect, as far as hockey goes, for Brian Boyle after the Karlsson/Carkner incident.
- jmatchett383

What did Boyle do that was so terrible?

I’ve already thrown our my reliably priced vet in UFA guy, they I would offer a deal. Brian Boyle. To me Boyle is a low risk, high reward player. I can’t even begin to tell you how turned off I am by the idea of signing Kevin Hayes. Look, I get it. He got 54 points last season and he’s a consistent mid 40’s point guy but he’s probably gonna wanna be paid like a top center. I don’t wanna Bobby Holik Hayes like the Rangers did. I’m not gonna spit shine a turd and tell you it’s beautiful. The idea of paying Hayes more than Couturier, right now, today, makes me cringe.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't really want to overpay for Hayes either. But if they sign a 2C out of free agency and he's making more than Couturier, I don't think that's a big deal. He's on a phenomenal deal right now.