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Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

May 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
move G back to C and sign Zuccarellollollollo
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

May 21 @ 4:48 PM ET
I don't really want to overpay for Hayes either. But if they sign a 2C out of free agency and he's making more than Couturier, I don't think that's a big deal. He's on a phenomenal deal right now.
- Ftown19125



We should be lucky as Cots plays like a 7.5 million man right now and they should focus on a Top pair D-man with right shot and clarify the backup goalie quickly
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
We should be lucky as Cots plays like a 7.5 million man right now and they should focus on a Top pair D-man with right shot and clarify the backup goalie quickly
- goenzoy


Ghost for trouba?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 21 @ 5:01 PM ET
We should be lucky as Cots plays like a 7.5 million man right now and they should focus on a Top pair D-man with right shot and clarify the backup goalie quickly
- goenzoy


Trouba. Like everyone else, I don't want to "overpay" for him. I mean that both in terms of the assets given up to trade for him & the contract that he would then need to be signed to. But if he is truly available, then I hope all reasonable options are being explored to get him. I think he's exactly what is needed to lock up the D for the next few years, and he's number 1 on my off season wish list by far.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
My 2 cents re finding a center:
Duchene isn’t going to be worth the deal he’s about to get and nor is Hayes. If Jeff Carter only had a year or 2 left on his deal, he’d be a guy I’d target but oh well. Finding a legit 2C with only a year or 2 left on his deal will not be easy. I know it’s a risk, but perhaps the best move is to just find a good 3C in a trade and live or die with Patrick as the 2C. Heck, by 20-21, Frost could pass Patrick on the depth chart anyway.

This would also give the Flyers ample cap room to both sign their own players and make a play for Trouba. Any deal for Trouba is going to cost you the 11th overall pick but you have to give up to get.

One other option would be dealing for Trouba with that 11OA and maybe Hagg and a prospect and then swapping Ghost straight up for a 2C.

Should start getting interesting around here on draft day.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
My 2 cents re finding a center:
Duchene isn’t going to be worth the deal he’s about to get and nor is Hayes. If Jeff Carter only had a year or 2 left on his deal, he’d be a guy I’d target but oh well. Finding a legit 2C with only a year or 2 left on his deal will not be easy. I know it’s a risk, but perhaps the best move is to just find a good 3C in a trade and live or die with Patrick as the 2C. Heck, by 20-21, Frost could pass Patrick on the depth chart anyway.

This would also give the Flyers ample cap room to both sign their own players and make a play for Trouba. Any deal for Trouba is going to cost you the 11th overall pick but you have to give up to get.

One other option would be dealing for Trouba with that 11OA and maybe Hagg and a prospect and then swapping Ghost straight up for a 2C.

Should start getting interesting around here on draft day.

- BiggE


Winnipeg is prob not so interested in picks. I would think they’d want immediate roster help for trouba. They want to win now

Would anyone entertain a straight up provorov for trouba swap if that’s what it takes?

That would allow the flyers to retain ghost on a team friendly deal, balance out the D pairs b/w left and righties, and leave plenty of money to bring in more D help
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 21 @ 5:43 PM ET


Would anyone entertain a straight up provorov for trouba swap if that’s what it takes?


- Just5


My initial answer is no because it's not a huge change either way meaning I dont think Trouba or Provorov is substantially better than the other.



Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 21 @ 5:52 PM ET
My initial answer is no because it's not a huge change either way meaning I dont think Trouba or Provorov is substantially better than the other.
- opeth_pa


Don’t think I would either.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

May 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
Winnipeg is prob not so interested in picks. I would think they’d want immediate roster help for trouba. They want to win now

Would anyone entertain a straight up provorov for trouba swap if that’s what it takes?

That would allow the flyers to retain ghost on a team friendly deal, balance out the D pairs b/w left and righties, and leave plenty of money to bring in more D help

- Just5


Winnipeg has cap issues and players to sign. I think #11 and a young player on ELC might be their target.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
Winnipeg is prob not so interested in picks. I would think they’d want immediate roster help for trouba. They want to win now

Would anyone entertain a straight up provorov for trouba swap if that’s what it takes?

That would allow the flyers to retain ghost on a team friendly deal, balance out the D pairs b/w left and righties, and leave plenty of money to bring in more D help

- Just5

why are you like this?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 21 @ 6:47 PM ET
why are you like this?
- Mordecai



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 6:54 PM ET
why are you like this?
- Mordecai


Just when you think you've read rock bottom, they take it down another notch!
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

May 21 @ 7:24 PM ET
Just when you think you've read rock bottom, they take it down another notch!

- MJL

Just can't help it. Nothing can be done!🤣
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 21 @ 8:16 PM ET
I’ve already thrown our my reliably priced vet in UFA guy, they I would offer a deal. Brian Boyle. To me Boyle is a low risk, high reward player. I can’t even begin to tell you how turned off I am by the idea of signing Kevin Hayes. Look, I get it. He got 54 points last season and he’s a consistent mid 40’s point guy but he’s probably gonna wanna be paid like a top center. I don’t wanna Bobby Holik Hayes like the Rangers did. I’m not gonna spit shine a turd and tell you it’s beautiful. The idea of paying Hayes more than Couturier, right now, today, makes me cringe.
- SuperSchennBros

What’s the high reward with Boyle ? He is what he is at this point
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
I have no respect, as far as hockey goes, for Brian Boyle after the Karlsson/Carkner incident.
- jmatchett383

No one cares if you have any respect for him
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 8:19 PM ET
What’s the high reward with Boyle ? He is what he is at this point
- daryl stanley

Improvement of the Penalty kill, where we were poor at. Added leadership, which we’ve sorely needed. Size, which I don’t feel we have a lot of. Added depth to the bottom six. I’m not sure about you but I didn’t enjoy watching Phil Vorone or Corban Knight this past season.

I think you just see what you want to see.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 21 @ 8:28 PM ET
Improvement of the Penalty kill, where we were poor at. Added leadership, which we’ve sorely needed. Size, which I don’t feel we have a lot of. Added depth to the bottom six. I’m not sure about you but I didn’t enjoy watching Phil Vorone or Corban Knight this past season.

I think you just see what you want to see.

- SuperSchennBros

There is no high reward. He is a solid player. Not someone I classify as a high reward type is all
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 8:31 PM ET
There is no high reward. He is a solid player. Not someone I classify as a high reward type is all
- daryl stanley

How you can say he’s a solid player and follow up by saying he’s not high reward, I don’t even understand what that’s suppose to mean.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 8:43 PM ET
Team SSB is looking good against team King2Real
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

May 21 @ 9:01 PM ET
How you can say he’s a solid player and follow up by saying he’s not high reward, I don’t even understand what that’s suppose to mean.
- SuperSchennBros


See Gudas, Radko
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 9:14 PM ET
See Gudas, Radko
- Coburns_Nose

Radko Gudas can absolutely be classed as a low risk, high reward for any team. Great example.

We need a bottom six that can offer something when the stars need rest. The fact that Couturier and Giroux have started a lot of penalty kills together is damning. This is why you at least consider a Brian Boyle or players like him.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 9:26 PM ET
Blues starting to put their foot off the gas but luckily for the Blues, Brent Burns is overrated. So...
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
Team SSB is looking good against team King2Real
- SuperSchennBros



Coach Punchface really has the Blues playing at a high level.
It's impressive to watch.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 9:37 PM ET
Coach Punchface really has the Blues playing at a high level.
It's impressive to watch.

- opeth_pa

Nobody hated Berube more than me, while he was here. I guess you can’t question his ability to coach, it’s his people skills. Every time I see him in an interview, I just wanna throw a tomato at him...

He’d probably catch it and very accurately throwing back, taking my head off.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 21 @ 9:39 PM ET
Big Rat scores again. Another Dangle move and touch shot. The kid is growing on me and that is an issue when he is 6’6”.

https://twitter.com/Brady.../1130982522731425792?s=20
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