Burke drafted the twins.
Nonis traded for Luongo.
Just saying lol
- Nighthawk

I don't like FA at all, I'm just playing devil's advocate.


I'd personally like to clean house, from ownership to the front office, excluding Brackett and the scouts who were high on Boeser, EP, Gaudette, Madden, etc.

1st duty of a new Pres is to familiarize & assess the the organization top down.

The GM & Coach are of the least concern. A voice in the NHL board room is paramount. A strong & respected personality is needed. Autonomous of FA’s meddling being empowered to operate without any hands tied. Speaks for the team in pressers & JB only when it’s about the roster or prospects. I pick Francis for these reasons.
- Nighthawk

So does that mean that the new pres has/should commit to Benning before being hired?

That's my point: FA has to make a decision on JB or leave it up to the new pres.

If it's up to the new pres, it makes for an uncomfortable season for JB because he'll be a lame duck.

If a pres is hired before JB is given an extension that would indicate that FA is leaving it up to the new pres.

So does that mean that the new pres has/should commit to Benning before being hired?

That's my point: FA has to make a decision on JB or leave it up to the new pres.

If it's up to the new pres, it makes for an uncomfortable season for JB because he'll be a lame duck.

If a pres is hired before JB is given an extension that would indicate that FA is leaving it up to the new pres.
- RealityChecker

Until he is offered a new contract...hes a lame duck wether a new president is brought in or not .

I don't like FA at all, I'm just playing devil's advocate.


I'd personally like to clean house, from ownership to the front office, excluding Brackett and the scouts who were high on Boeser, EP, Gaudette, Madden, etc.
- Nucker101

So does that mean that the new pres has/should commit to Benning before being hired?

That's my point: FA has to make a decision on JB or leave it up to the new pres.

If it's up to the new pres, it makes for an uncomfortable season for JB because he'll be a lame duck.

If a pres is hired before JB is given an extension that would indicate that FA is leaving it up to the new pres.
- RealityChecker

I think they hire a new president during the season and part of his over all assessment of the team & organization is whether or not Benning gets extended or told 'thanks and good luck with you future endeavors'.

Until he is offered a new contract...hes a lame duck wether a new president is brought in or not .
- Bullfrog77

i understand that. that's part of the larger point.

FA has to decide on JB and the sooner the better. if he's unsure and wants a new pres to decide, that should also be done soon.

to me, these decisions must be made before the season begins. ideally before july 1 but i don't think that will happen.

I think they hire a new president during the season and part of his over all assessment of the team & organization is whether or not Benning gets extended or told 'thanks and good luck with you future endeavors'.
- Marwood

as nucker has pointed out several times, it's scary to have a gm fighting for his job going into free agency and the deadline.

the most canuck thing to do is to give JB a 1 year extension then hire a new pres so we can have this discussion next year.

kick the can down the road: the canuck way.

I don't really like countries other than Canada and the USA or the people who live in them.
- kaptaan

Pretty sure they don't like you either.

My take: Gillis back in charge of biz/organizational philosophies & outside the box sh!t like sleep optimization, analytics think tanks, etc etc etc while Benning/Brackett focus solely on roster building would actually work for me.

So does that mean that the new pres has/should commit to Benning before being hired?

That's my point: FA has to make a decision on JB or leave it up to the new pres.

If it's up to the new pres, it makes for an uncomfortable season for JB because he'll be a lame duck.

If a pres is hired before JB is given an extension that would indicate that FA is leaving it up to the new pres.
- RealityChecker

If the Pres has a top GM in mind he is free to make the change. Not a buddy or crony but legit upgrade then do it. If not JB is not quite the lame duck but is on notice. Everyone from the owner down to the players is accountable with high expectations placed on each & everyone.

Until he is offered a new contract...hes a lame duck wether a new president is brought in or not .
- Bullfrog77

This is true

My take: Gillis back in charge of biz/organizational philosophies & outside the box sh!t like sleep optimization, analytics think tanks, etc etc etc while Benning/Brackett focus solely on roster building would actually work for me.
- DrChristianTroy

A combo of strengths 👍👍

as nucker has pointed out several times, it's scary to have a gm fighting for his job going into free agency and the deadline.

the most canuck thing to do is to give JB a 1 year extension then hire a new pres so we can have this discussion next year.

kick the can down the road: the canuck way.
- RealityChecker

I whole-heartedly agree with Nucker on that, which is why my preference is to fire him now but that clearly is not going to happen. Maybe FA has to sign off on UFA's & trades in case Benning goes all Chia-pet. That's why I think they will watch him & the teams progress and decide next season on a new President and Benning's future.

We need a face for the team up top. JB isn’t the guy. The management team needs to use their strengths or hire what is lacking. Nothing wrong with what the skill sets ppl have it’s obviously not complete. Idc if it takes 3 or 10 ppl divvying up or delegated at doing things.

I whole-heartedly agree with Nucker on that, which is why my preference is to fire him now but that clearly is not going to happen. Maybe FA has to sign off on UFA's & trades in case Benning goes all Chia-pet. That's why I think they will watch him & the teams progress and decide next season on a new President and Benning's future.
- Marwood

Good stuff 👍
It’s fire JB now if no confidence.
If not then tend to the other biz & let it slide til another day. JB could be gone before the 2020 draft anyways along with a few others who shouldn’t escape the purge.

Although i like TG i wouldn’t be surprised he is let go at some time. He is on the hot seat to get better results also. After this next draft goes by & the offseason passes the expectations will be higher.

The Finns are the pluckiest bunch of players year in & year out. We need to hire a DoP asap. 😂

It's going to be quite the weekend, Hockey World Championship, London Rugby 7s & the Monaco Grand Prix.

i understand that. that's part of the larger point.

FA has to decide on JB and the sooner the better. if he's unsure and wants a new pres to decide, that should also be done soon.

to me, these decisions must be made before the season begins. ideally before july 1 but i don't think that will happen.
- RealityChecker

What makes you think he hasn't made that decision? He's in no rush to resign him...has the ability to wait and see if a better option presents itself as the season unfolds

as nucker has pointed out several times, it's scary to have a gm fighting for his job going into free agency and the deadline.

the most canuck thing to do is to give JB a 1 year extension then hire a new pres so we can have this discussion next year.

kick the can down the road: the canuck way.
- RealityChecker

Nothing scary about it ...we all know aquaman has the final say in all hockey ops decisions

Just when I thought everyone would be running out of things to argue about.

What makes you think he hasn't made that decision? He's in no rush to resign him...has the ability to wait and see if a better option presents itself as the season unfolds
- Bullfrog77

i have a problem with a lame duck gm who knows his job is on the line. i'd be afraid of the signings and/or deals to maximize short term winning (solidifying his job).

and if FA is the one signing off on the moves because there is no pres, that terrifies the hell out of me.

Nothing scary about it ...we all know aquaman has the final say in all hockey ops decisions
- Bullfrog77

the first part of your sentence doesn't match the second part.

Just when I thought everyone would be running out of things to argue about.
- VanHockeyGuy

the first part of your sentence doesn't match the second part.
- RealityChecker

I believe that is called an oxymoron