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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
Everyone has their own opinions and hopes or desires. I stand by my prediction that the Canucks will be a bubble wild card team. You ask who will they pass, as Ferraro said (someone likes his insight and quotes as gospel) not one of these teams is making a case to be in the 2 wild cards spots and it is pathetic.

The whole wild card race was really tight right down to the wire, 6 wins is not too many to overcome, poop happens every year.

BTW bubble team doesn’t mean securing a spot.

- Makita



I think as of today the Avs and stars look much better than the teams that were part of that group fighting or not fighting to get in
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Its really easy to sit there and say that for where youre sitting. I feel like you aren't looking at the big picture. Ultimately JB wears every player decision but it should go with saying that management, ownership, coaching and scouting all go into deciding the direction of the team i.e. players to draft, sign, style of play, rebuild vs retool...

He was left with ZERO in the cupboards, saddled with NMC/NTC's, expectations of ownership.....I think thats why he's been given a long leash with ownership.

I think he's definitely been above average in drafting. Every draft is not going to be a homerun - name one GM who does? His trades certainly have left a sour taste on many occasions but I commend him for trying to be proactive - thank god he isn't Mike Milbury!

Its this god damn fickle Vancouver market that I find infuriating. Half you guys talk out your ass yet seem to dominate the narrative here.

If there is blame, I put it on FA for not embracing the rebuild earlier. I know Vantel trumpeted that ages ago....I support JB and will continue to do so.....

- chompsey

Agree completely, I’m not foolish enough to think Benning sits alone on every decision. But he’s sitting in the GM’s chair so I need to point my finger at someone
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
I think as of today the Avs and stars look much better than the teams that were part of that group fighting or not fighting to get in
- Redmile247


The AV’s are trending nicely. The Stars had Heiskanen to draft & a good pick that was to get. Without him they would be struggling with their boring stifling style. When the owner speaks out about his stars Seguin & Benn it’s an omen.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
Agree completely, I’m not foolish enough to think Benning sits alone on every decision. But he’s sitting in the GM’s chair so I need to point my finger at someone
- Pacificgem



Well, that kind of ends that topic......personal bias it is then!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Agree completely, I’m not foolish enough to think Benning sits alone on every decision. But he’s sitting in the GM’s chair so I need to point my finger at someone
- Pacificgem

Why this need to point fingers at all? One man doesn’t get all the blame nor all the credit.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
Well, that kind of ends that topic......personal bias it is then!
- chompsey

Of course, that said, I think there’s enough ammunition to suggest I may be on to something lol.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
Left field comment if i ever heard one lol
- Nighthawk


Left field? Chompsey directly compared Benning to Mike Milbury. I mean, I guess there are other terrible GM’s out there but guess what, when you google “who is the worst GM in NHL history” here’s the first result https://www.google.ca/amp...agers-in-nhl-history/amp/

Ps, Gillis is number 7 on the list.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
All we need now is Lefty to come out of his hiatus & rail on how JB speaks. Why cuz we all know orators are the best for the job. 😂
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
Left field? Chompsey directly compared Benning to Mike Milbury. I mean, I guess there are other terrible GM’s out there but guess what, when you google “who is the worst GM in NHL history” here’s the first result https://www.google.ca/amp...agers-in-nhl-history/amp/

Ps, Gillis is number 7 on the list.

- 1970vintage



Did you want me to name all the poopty GM's? Would that make you happier? He was the first one to pop into my head for obvious reasons, he's (frank)in horrid and we can all definitely agree on that!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Left field? Chompsey directly compared Benning to Mike Milbury. I mean, I guess there are other terrible GM’s out there but guess what, when you google “who is the worst GM in NHL history” here’s the first result https://www.google.ca/amp...agers-in-nhl-history/amp/

Ps, Gillis is number 7 on the list.

- 1970vintage


What fan needs Google if they watched hockey for over 50yrs? I don’t. Pollock raped the LAK forever during his tenure. The Leafs had 50yrs of nothing. The Wings & Hawks had decades of crap. I could go on & on being a fan & not some info internet site that knows squat.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Brock Nelson re-ups with the Islanders for six years.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Of course, that said, I think there’s enough ammunition to suggest I may be on to something lol.
- Pacificgem



Ya, but the same could be done for the other 30 GM's.....maybe minus the ones who win the Cup....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
Did you want me to name all the poopty GM's? Would that make you happier? He was the first one to pop into my head for obvious reasons, he's (frank)in horrid and we can all definitely agree on that!
- chompsey

Drafted Dipietro & traded Luongo say no more 😂😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
Brock Nelson re-ups with the Islanders for six years.
- Pacificgem

Good for them they need him 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
Show me a shlt owner & I’ll show you a shlt show.

Harold Ballard ring a bell?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
Did you want me to name all the poopty GM's? Would that make you happier? He was the first one to pop into my head for obvious reasons, he's (frank)in horrid and we can all definitely agree on that!
- chompsey


I’m just saying that comparing our guy to the group of terrible GMs and saying “at least he’s not that” is not a vote of confidence. A better way to say it would have been to compare him to someone who has been very successful and suggest that maybe Benning hasn’t been Doug Wilson successful yet, but he’s on the right track!
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 23 @ 12:55 PM ET
Its really easy to sit there and say that for where youre sitting. I feel like you aren't looking at the big picture. Ultimately JB wears every player decision but it should go with saying that management, ownership, coaching and scouting all go into deciding the direction of the team i.e. players to draft, sign, style of play, rebuild vs retool...

He was left with ZERO in the cupboards, saddled with NMC/NTC's, expectations of ownership.....I think thats why he's been given a long leash with ownership.

I think he's definitely been above average in drafting. Every draft is not going to be a homerun - name one GM who does? His trades certainly have left a sour taste on many occasions but I commend him for trying to be proactive - thank god he isn't Mike Milbury!

Its this god damn fickle Vancouver market that I find infuriating. Half you guys talk out your ass yet seem to dominate the narrative here.

If there is blame, I put it on FA for not embracing the rebuild earlier. I know Vantel trumpeted that ages ago....I support JB and will continue to do so.....

- chompsey


Solid post, especially the second last paragraph, exactly my sentiments.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 23 @ 12:55 PM ET
What fan needs Google if they watched hockey for over 50yrs? I don’t. Pollock raped the LAK forever during his tenure. The Leafs had 50yrs of nothing. The Wings & Hawks had decades of crap. I could go on & on being a fan & not some info internet site that knows squat.
- Nighthawk


What does any of this have to do with what we’re talking about?

Good for you, you have a good memory for poopty GM’s. That doesn’t change the fact that the bar for Benning was set at Milbury, which was what I was responding to, which is squarely in centre field...
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
I’m just saying that comparing our guy to the group of terrible GMs and saying “at least he’s not that” is not a vote of confidence. A better way to say it would have been to compare him to someone who has been very successful and suggest that maybe Benning hasn’t been Doug Wilson successful yet, but he’s on the right track!
- 1970vintage



I like what you did there......maybe I'll try that in the future, however, doubt it changes anyones mind either....

Who is this boards documentarian? Document this......JB brings us a Cup in 5 years....

Source? Chomp-muthafuckin-sey.....
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
Ya, but the same could be done for the other 30 GM's.....maybe minus the ones who win the Cup....
- chompsey

I just disagree with how the teams been managed over the past five years, a lot of that falls on Aquilini, but Benning shares much of that blame too. That positive thing is, by being poor at his job they gave themselves access to the best kids in the world through the draft and they’ve made some progress because of it.

That’s not unique to the Canucks though, most teams who draft top five get better sooner or later.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 23 @ 12:58 PM ET
I like what you did there......maybe I'll try that in the future, however, doubt it changes anyones mind either....

Who is this boards documentarian? Document this......JB brings us a Cup in 5 years....

Source? Chomp-muthafuckin-sey.....

- chompsey


I think there are two. Minivan has a book and Booner has an eidetic memory
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
I like what you did there......maybe I'll try that in the future, however, doubt it changes anyones mind either....

Who is this boards documentarian? Document this......JB brings us a Cup in 5 years....

Source? Chomp-muthafuckin-sey.....

- chompsey

That would suggest he’ll get a ten year term to see that through, ain’t happening bubba
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
That would suggest he’ll get a ten year term to see that through, ain’t happening bubba
- Pacificgem


I bet he will be....its being documented!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
I’m just saying that comparing our guy to the group of terrible GMs and saying “at least he’s not that” is not a vote of confidence. A better way to say it would have been to compare him to someone who has been very successful and suggest that maybe Benning hasn’t been Doug Wilson successful yet, but he’s on the right track!
- 1970vintage


Doug Wilson eh

Yes he’s been a staple in SJ.
Yes he has not won a cup.
Yes he has been at it much longer.
In Vancouver we forget the good times.
Pres Cups, Cup Finals, Hart winner.
If he were in a top hockey market he woulda been gone already. All said Wilson has done well as did Lombardi did in LA. Lombardi won 2 cups & got his walking papers.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
That would suggest he’ll get a ten year term to see that through, ain’t happening bubba
- Pacificgem


The first five are on Linden, so Benji will get five of his own.
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