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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
I think if Canucks had a proven back up and a goalie waiting to make it in the NHL sure , but Demk has played 10 games . I can't see it at all this summer . Maybe at TDL
- VANTEL

I mean, there are plenty of ufa goalies that are vets enough to split starts with demko. Selling high and then replacing him with a cheaper option woukd be pretty great imo. But yeah, i agree with you they won’t do it as he stepped up and was the MVP
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
It’s what smart/bold management would do IMO. When you have several young lotto ticket goalies in the pipeline and a current starter at his peak value with an expansion draft approaching, you trade the current starter for future assets and acquire a stop gap for your sh!tty team.
- DrChristianTroy



At TDL after Demko has had the security of Markstrom for most of the year
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
So could those other teams looking for a goalie and not have to give up assets
- VANTEL


Teams like Carolina, Columbus are playoff teams, probably not looking to rely on those dudes to make the playoffs again next year.

If they haver their own version of Demko then perhaps, I'm not too familiar with their goalie prospects though.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
It’s what smart/bold management would do IMO. When you have several young lotto ticket goalies in the pipeline and a current starter at his peak value with an expansion draft approaching, you trade the current starter for future assets and acquire a stop gap for your sh!tty team.
- DrChristianTroy

DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
At TDL after Demko has had the security of Markstrom for most of the year
- VANTEL


I think next year’s TDL returns will be pitiful with teams salivating at the 2020 draft... Now is the time to pull the trigger, add a high pick this year who will be a year closer to NHL contribution. Markstrom could get us another 1 this year. If he struggles at all, he won’t even bring a 3rd at the TDL.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
I think if Canucks had a proven back up and a goalie waiting to make it in the NHL sure , but Demk has played 10 games . I can't see it at all this summer . Maybe at TDL
- VANTEL

His value will be highest this summer. He could suck goat balls next season, trade him now.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 25 @ 5:41 PM ET
It’s what smart/bold management would do IMO. When you have several young lotto ticket goalies in the pipeline and a current starter at his peak value with an expansion draft approaching, you trade the current starter for future assets and acquire a stop gap for your sh!tty team.
- DrChristianTroy

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:41 PM ET
I think next year’s TDL returns will be pitiful with teams salivating at the 2020 draft... Now is the time to pull the trigger, add a high pick this year who will be a year closer to NHL contribution. Markstrom could get us another 1 this year. If he struggles at all, he won’t even bring a 3rd at the TDL.
- DrChristianTroy


And as you mentioned, the looming expansion draft. Plus there's also the risk that Markstrom regresses next year and Demko outplays him, then Markstrom's market value/hype will certainly die down. Let season the HNIC crew were riding Markstrom hard every time the Canucks were playing on Saturday night.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 25 @ 5:42 PM ET
At TDL after Demko has had the security of Markstrom for most of the year
- VANTEL

That's what a beta would do.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
Teams like Carolina, Columbus are playoff teams, probably not looking to rely on those dudes to make the playoffs again next year.

If they haver their own version of Demko then perhaps, I'm not too familiar with their goalie prospects though.

- Nucker101


Korpisalo is a little ahead of Demko plus I am not sure they are a playoff team . Depends who comes back.

I don't know about Carolina . I think they will just sign McElhinney and Mrazek again
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
Korpisalo is a little ahead of Demko plus I am not sure they are a playoff team . Depends who comes back.

I don't know about Carolina . I think they will just sign McElhinney and Mrazek again

- VANTEL



I don't think they're a playoff team either as of now, but their goal is to make it back there, that's all that matters. Their fans seem pretty high on their AHL talent so I assume their management is hoping to pull an Islanders and replace Panarin/Bob from within.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
That's what a beta would do.
- Marwood

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
That's what a beta would do.
- Marwood


I think trading your MVP goalie with your back up playing only 10 games is what an unemployed GM would do.

Lets see if it happens . I might be wrong but I don' t see them trading Markstrom
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
Kevin Hayes will be one of the top centers available in free agency in July. With that in mind, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reports in his latest 31 Thoughts column that several teams have already started doing their due diligence on the 27-year-old, including the Blackhawks, Avalanche, and Flyers.


Price for Hayes will be too high now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 25 @ 5:48 PM ET
That must be even harder. Oilers are getting beaten because it is a gong show. Jets have been doing everything right and still haven't got to the finals.

Frustrating

- VANTEL

Jets are my second team because of my Mom. She passed in 2009 but is still with me in so many ways I just can't explain it. She was devastated when the Jets moved to ARZ then didn't get to see the return to WPG. Jets still have a great club but it's gonna be a struggle for them to go deep in the PO's from here. Lots of ingredients still needed.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 25 @ 5:49 PM ET
I think trading your MVP goalie with your back up playing only 10 games is what an unemployed GM would do.

Lets see if it happens . I might be wrong but I don' t see them trading Markstrom

- VANTEL

Like I said, waiting it out to the TDL is a pillow-biter strategy. This management is as marshmellow soft as the team.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 25 @ 5:50 PM ET
Mclellan and Hitchcock are pretty good coaches . I don't know if they will get better?
- VANTEL

True pretty good coaches...But I'm sure Holland's vision for the club is different from what Mclellan and Hitch were capable of.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
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Russo on MN radio says Jason Zucker has been shopped to CGY for Frolik/Bennett, PIT for Kessel, ARZ for Dvorak (turned down) - ARZ countered with Fischer, VGK for Marchessault, VAN for Boeser (VAN laughed and hung up)

- VANTEL

Markstrom to Cgy for a 1st and then Cgy's 1st to Minnesota for Zucker.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 5:52 PM ET
Thank you for the explanation .


I will be truthful but not meaning to be critical. Maybe I am being a little humorous.

Analytics always makes me think of Anal Lyrics or Comforting read for the bumholes.
That is not aimed at you or anyone that uses them it is what I think of when I hear the word.


What you described that was written is something I can look at any Canuck game and see Beagle playing against McDavid or Crosby and know we are in our own zone.

I knew just by watching every game that Beagle will get the defensive zones and Bo and Petey will get the O zone starts. I know Beagle plays against top players of the other teams.

I guess that is why we old dogs don't want to learn new tricks because we already know the answers

- VANTEL


"Bumholes" LMAO🤣
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
I think trading your MVP goalie with your back up playing only 10 games is what an unemployed GM would do.

Lets see if it happens . I might be wrong but I don' t see them trading Markstrom

- VANTEL


Benning won't do it, I don't blame him with only 1 year left on his contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 6:04 PM ET
Benning won't do it, I don't blame him with only 1 year left on his contract.
- Nucker101



Yeah . I think so. Anyone can build a cup winner in Fantasyland but very few if any GMs trade their MVP and go with a rookie unproven goalie.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
Yeah . I think so. Anyone can build a cup winner in Fantasyland but very few if any GMs trade their MVP and go with a rookie unproven goalie.
- VANTEL


Who said to go with an unproven rookie goalie? Obviously we sell high & buy low on a stop gap vet to share the load. This is about maximizing leverage, a looming expansion draft, & the likelihood of a repeat performance from Markstrom... This isn’t fantasyland BS - it’s legit strategic management.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 6:32 PM ET
Who said to go with an unproven rookie goalie? Obviously we sell high & buy low on a stop gap vet to share the load. This is about maximizing leverage, a looming expansion draft, & the likelihood of a repeat performance from Markstrom... This isn’t fantasyland BS - it’s legit strategic management.
- DrChristianTroy


So how about we keep our goalie and trade our 10th OA for PK Subban . Alpha GM


Why would any team give up a first round pick for Markstrom when McElhinney is sitting there as UFA?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
So how about we keep our goalie and trade our 10th OA for PK Subban . Alpha GM


Why would any team give up a first round pick for Markstrom when McElhinney is sitting there as UFA?

- VANTEL


I think a first round pick for Marky is a reach
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
I think a first round pick for Marky is a reach
- Nucker101


Damn right it is. No way it is happening.

There is at least 20 free agent goalies.
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