Trouba, Laine and their 2nd round pick
for
Risto, Nylander and 7OA

Who says no?
- adambuffalo

Both teams

7th overall is going to be important to a cap guy like Botterill

Winnipeg wouldn't want more than 7th overall for Laine and I think Risto and Nylander is close enough to get you Trouba but not totally there

Trouba, Laine and their 2nd round pick
for
Risto, Nylander and 7OA

Who says no?
- adambuffalo

Winnipeg

I think with the injuries on the blue line there isn't going to be any major moves there even though I would like to see more.

But I think getting some good depth players and production from the rookies they're a playoff team.

Whomever they draft at 7 will be important in a year or two to this team.

They could move the late first if they find a deal they like
- Stripes77

I'm not super anxious to see Risto shipped out. I know he's not a JB pick, so he could be dumped by him. I'd hate to see a pennies-on-the-dollar type deal, just for the sake of getting him out of here.

I like your point about good depth and rookies. And I'd kind of prefer to keep the late 1st, but it might net you someone pretty good from a cap-strapped team.

I'm not super anxious to see Risto shipped out. I know he's not a JB pick, so he could be dumped by him. I'd hate to see a pennies-on-the-dollar type deal, just for the sake of getting him out of here.

I like your point about good depth and rookies. And I'd kind of prefer to keep the late 1st, but it might net you someone pretty good from a cap-strapped team.
- PrinceChill

I don't want to see Risto moved for a pennies on the dollar trade either that's for sure

Get someone to play 1st pairing minutes with Dahlin and let Risto play 2nd pairing minutes the way he should be used and raise his value back up if you want to move him or just keep him

How long will it be before he knocks up his girlfriend, doesn't marry her and names his son after liquor?


- jochfr

About a year after driving into the drive through coffee shop.

Blues and Bruins were 2 and 3 in GA this season. That is why they are both still playing. That is also why I value the player who can play in all 3 zones (Matthew Boldy) over the player who may be an elite scorer but provide nothing else (Cole Caufield).

Trouba, Laine and their 2nd round pick
for
Risto, Nylander and 7OA

Who says no?
- adambuffalo

WPG, but it's close

7OA for Trouba checks out imo

Risto and Nylander for Laine and a 2nd is light on the Sabres end imo. Also, not sure what the perceived value of Nylander is around the league, if any. He's somewhere between Kassian and Grigorenko in trade value at the moment in my opinon

maybe 7, risto, Asplund for Trouba and Laine (no 2nd)

Everyone would hate it, but it's approximately fair imo. It also depends heavily on your view of how good Trouba or Laine are, which seems to vary wildly

what if you have a sex addiction and contract a disease?
- homiedclown

See a doctor?

Both teams

7th overall is going to be important to a cap guy like Botterill

Winnipeg wouldn't want more than 7th overall for Laine and I think Risto and Nylander is close enough to get you Trouba but not totally there
- Stripes77

7th OA should be very important. Look at all of the contributions from players on ELC’s this year. The Leafs, Lightning, Tampa, Bruins, all look completely different right now if Marner, Matthews, Laine, Connor, Point, Cirelli, Sergachev, Debrusk and McAvoy are all making the money they will get this offseason or next. If the Flames show M.Tkachuk the big bucks that’s less money that they have to improve the roster.

Boston has a stacked roster due to homegrown talent and paying them early, regardless of draft position.

Blues and Bruins were 2 and 3 in GA this season. That is why they are both still playing. That is also why I value the player who can play in all 3 zones (Matthew Boldy) over the player who may be an elite scorer but provide nothing else (Cole Caufield).
- Pegullaville

No they weren't

Islanders
Dallas
Nashville
Boston
Tampa
Carolina
St Louis/Arizona

Edit 2nd and 3rd in their conference yes

Blues and Bruins were 2 and 3 in GA this season. That is why they are both still playing. That is also why I value the player who can play in all 3 zones (Matthew Boldy) over the player who may be an elite scorer but provide nothing else (Cole Caufield).
- Pegullaville

There's a chance both could be available at 7. It would be interesting to see which direction they'd go. Thanks for posting a preference. I like prospect talk over whatever the hell else has been going on around here.

There's a chance both could be available at 7. It would be interesting to see which direction they'd go. Thanks for posting a preference. I like prospect talk over whatever the hell else has been going on around here.
- PrinceChill

I would go for the more prolific goal scorer only because this team lacks any sort of scoring other than from their first line.

I would go for the more prolific goal scorer only because this team lacks any sort of scoring other than from their first line.
- Stripes77

That does seem to be the team's most glaring problem. Personally, I have Caufield just ahead of Boldy, but I have a feeling that Caufield is less likely to be available at 7 than MB.

Super Secret #Sabres Source Skinner Update - “I think $72 gets this done. Sabres at $66-68 but gap closing.”

There's no way this doesn't get done, half a mill a season makes no difference
- mattmoulson

8x$9m = $72m

$9m is more than most everyone wants to pay for the 40G Skinner we saw play.
Seems like most here have settled on $8.0 - $8.25m as the top of the range
Over his 9 years to date however, he has averaged 27/22/49..which is closer to $7.0m value

Sabres should absolutely hold the line at $64 (8×$8m).
They are already paying a premium, and he knows it.

By contrast, other teams would need to go to either
7 x $10.275m to meet the $72m target, or
7 x $9.1 to meet the $64m
Botts could then counter with up to 8 x $8.5m = $68m likely to beat the other teams in terms of total contract value
More than that, F him.
Will he give back say $2m when he has his career average?

If Botts caves and pays the $9m per, I can't wait for this board to flip out when Ripped is on here blasting GMBotts as a result of Skinner puting up his average stat line.

Did we run another guy out of here when he was paid like $1.0m more than we thought his value was. Some guy who played 2C and constantly put up 60 point..what was his name?

I would go for the more prolific goal scorer only because this team lacks any sort of scoring other than from their first line.
- Stripes77

I agree scoring is a problem, however we have no two way defensive forwards. I think Caufield could be a very good, but we are about to sign a forward for $8m+ that doesn't play defense and adding another player with those attributes may not be the best route to take.
I like Turcotte, but he won't be available at 7, so my pick would be Dach if available.

I agree scoring is a problem, however we have no two way defensive forwards. I think Caufield could be a very good, but we are about to sign a forward for $8m+ that doesn't play defense and adding another player with those attributes may not be the best route to take.
I like Turcotte, but he won't be available at 7, so my pick would be Dach if available.
- adambuffalo

"Botts doesn't draft CHL..."

asplund could be our 3rd center this fall, from what I am hearing

if botts is unable to acquire a middle 6 center and has to settle on getting a winger


side note heard skinner is 99% done, the only question is it 9 mil per or a tad more

I agree scoring is a problem, however we have no two way defensive forwards. I think Caufield could be a very good, but we are about to sign a forward for $8m+ that doesn't play defense and adding another player with those attributes may not be the best route to take.
I like Turcotte, but he won't be available at 7, so my pick would be Dach if available.
- adambuffalo

Sam Reinhart says hello

Also, Eichel will be fine defensively as he’s gotten better in that area each year

If jack walks or cries unless we land 8m guys to play on his line and he wants no part of development of our young talent, then have fun being a Ranger and we will take the farm in return
- lulags

Or we'll get another Tage, Berglund, Sobotka and a LATE first.

That does seem to be the team's most glaring problem. Personally, I have Caufield just ahead of Boldy, but I have a feeling that Caufield is less likely to be available at 7 than MB.
- PrinceChill

both will probably be there at 7, unless byram falls

I would go for the more prolific goal scorer only because this team lacks any sort of scoring other than from their first line.
- Stripes77

zucker, phil or both

I don't want to see Risto moved for a pennies on the dollar trade either that's for sure

Get someone to play 1st pairing minutes with Dahlin and let Risto play 2nd pairing minutes the way he should be used and raise his value back up if you want to move him or just keep him
- Stripes77

Your roster had Dahlin's partner in the form of Colin Miller.

Miller as a RhD now makes Risto completely expendable.
If Botts us looking long-term rather than just to get through October, then Risto should be traded.
Move McCabe to right side for a month or two as a stop gap until Montour comes back.

Dahlin - Miller
Pilut - McCabe (Montour)
Hunwick (McCabe) - Nelson (Bogo)
Borgen (Nelson)

Trade Risto no matter (except pennies) for Top 6 help
With Miller and Montour ahead of him, $5.25 for a 3rd pairing is about $3.5m too much.

Blues and Bruins were 2 and 3 in GA this season. That is why they are both still playing. That is also why I value the player who can play in all 3 zones (Matthew Boldy) over the player who may be an elite scorer but provide nothing else (Cole Caufield).
- Pegullaville

I think it comes down to boldy, cozens and dach

and 1 of them will be off the board when we pick

both will probably be there at 7, unless byram falls
- homiedclown

Even though I'm targeting forwards if Byram is there I'd take him.

asplund could be our 3rd center this fall, from what I am hearing

if botts is unable to acquire a middle 6 center and has to settle on getting a winger


side note heard skinner is 99% done, the only question is it 9 mil per or a tad more
- homiedclown

8 for 70 million

Book it.

8.75 per year.

Based on mark stone's contract comparison