jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Sure let’s compare
Evander Kane as a Sabre
24 goals 44 points per season
Jeff Skinner as a Sabre
40 goals and 63 points as a Sabre
Comparing their career totals is pointless. This is what Skinner did as a Sabre
40 goals. - OneKaneOneCup
Kane didn't work as a winger for Eichel, but Skinner does. I'd rather pay Skinner $8.75 than Kane 7 for that reason, and, ya know, 40 goals, is pesky and more fun to watch imo (with the exception of the 3 fight night for Kane)
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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Kane didn't work as a winger for Eichel, but Skinner does. I'd rather pay Skinner $8.75 than Kane 7 for that reason, and, ya know, 40 goals, is pesky and more fun to watch imo (with the exception of the 3 fight night for Kane) - jcragcrumple
But swag bro |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Addiction is a condition, not a disease. you can't "catch" addiction. - Khmylev
What? Cancer is a disease, and and you can't catch that either. Maybe some indirectly; like cervical cancer from HPV from a partner, but that's about as close as you get to "catching" cancer.
Since when has anyone called the cold or flu a disease?
Addiction is definitely a disease. |
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3 players bring in +20. You can get half of Skinner's production from a rookie there, probably more.
Then I'd have 8 mil for almost the next decade to work with for 20 goals to break even? Yeah I'll make up the difference and add to it. Thanks for the great year Jeffrey. - RhinoFan
Olofsson's shot makes him a PP weapon. At 5v5 (where Skinner is elite), I have no idea if he's he's even an average third line player. Maybe he will be, but counting on him as a top line replacement is a risky plan. It just gets worse when the backup plan is Sheary.
If you think you're going to get great value bringing in multiple players for 8m, then you're the exception. Those guys are are going to be over paid too.
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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How on earth did we pay Eichel 4 mil more than MacKinnon? - OneKaneOneCup
At the time of signing their contracts:
Mackinnon: 153 Points in 218 Games, 0.702 points per game
Eichel: 177 Points in 209 Games, 0.847 points per game
And Eichel was considered a little bit of an overpay to lock him up for long term. Mackinnon's contract is up in 2023 and he'll be a UFA. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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They definitely quit once Valentine's Day rolled around. That last 2 months was even more burtal than them just being bad. - Wetbandit1
I stopped watching around then I think. They were just sucktastic imo, with no direction from coaching. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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But swag bro - washedup20
Skinner is swagtastic for a white boy |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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At the time of signing their contracts:
Mackinnon: 153 Points in 218 Games, 0.702 points per game
Eichel: 177 Points in 209 Games, 0.847 points per game
And Eichel was considered a little bit of an overpay to lock him up for long term. Mackinnon's contract is up in 2023 and he'll be a UFA. - BINGO!
My point was about the Skinner/Benn comparison
It’s just not accurate to compare contracts signed years apart |
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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Skinner is swagtastic for a white boy - jcragcrumple
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Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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Moot point, both at 27 are miles ahead of Jeff. You wouldn't trade Jeff for either straight up?
That's my point, the players he is being paid like are well above him. I understand new contracts are always going up, but even recent comparables don't justify 9M or close to it.
He should ask for right around or slightly more than Evander. He should take less than Mark Stone no matter what. We're going to pay Stone money.
We will regret this contract and not in year 7 or 8 either. - RhinoFan
How old do you think he is? Will be 32 for his entire 6th year, which isn't really bad.
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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Kane didn't work as a winger for Eichel, but Skinner does. I'd rather pay Skinner $8.75 than Kane 7 for that reason, and, ya know, 40 goals, is pesky and more fun to watch imo (with the exception of the 3 fight night for Kane) - jcragcrumple
I want to retain Skinner because what he’s elite at (5 on 5 goals, scoring chances) we desperately need more of.
If that means overpaying by a mil, so be it |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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How old do you think he is? Will be 32 for his entire 6th year, which isn't really bad. - Herzeleid
Okposo was slow and mediocre when we signed him. Skinner is neither. Skinner could definitely regress a bit and only hit 32-35 goals, but I'm fine with that still |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Artemi Panarin is probably going to get 10.5 mil.
Is he better than Malkin? Is he as good as Kane ?
Welcome to poopty drafting for years. Where you have to overpay for talent because your dippoop GM traded away a multitude of draft picks - OneKaneOneCup
Don't forget studs like Armia and Roslovic! |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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This team would be on the verge of contention with actually using their 2013-16 draft picks wisely
Such a shame |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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Don't forget studs like Armia and Roslovic! - Wetbandit1
Who would be great upgrades to who we have now in the bottom 6 |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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As far as I'm concerned I can look for a trade as well. They don't have to be overpaid. If Olo can knock in 20 with Jack, I need 20 goals out of 8M. If Botts can't do that, bring Darcy back for (frank)s sakes. - RhinoFan
That's not true though, you need 20 goals on top of what that position is already expected to contribute. So the player would necessarily be massively underpaid. |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Who would be great upgrades to who we have now in the bottom 6 - OneKaneOneCup
Sure, but they're nothing more than just "guys". It was more a poke at the time you called Armia "studly". |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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Okposo was slow and mediocre when we signed him. Skinner is neither. Skinner could definitely regress a bit and only hit 32-35 goals, but I'm fine with that still - jcragcrumple
I’d wager 32-35 is where he averages the next 4-5 years |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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Sure, but they're nothing more than just "guys". It was more a poke at the time you called Armia "studly". - Wetbandit1
He’s not a bad player at all. Studly was an exaggeration |
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seedy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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But swag bro - washedup20
Knowimsayin"? |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I’d wager 32-35 is where he averages the next 4-5 years - OneKaneOneCup
Probably, especially if he misses +/- 10 games a year which is reasonable. I'm still fine with that |
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seedy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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Don't forget studs like Armia.... - Wetbandit1
He's an RFA.....lets grab him and resign Meyers and complete the cycle!
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Paying Jeff Skinner 9 Million dollars for any amount of time is insane.
I have been on board with JB's decisions for the most part, if he does this, it simply means he has no spine.
Tampa Bay has Kucherov for 9.5
We have Jeff Skinner
#Suffering - RhinoFan
Comparing signing a UFA 40 goal scorer in a tiny, undesirable market to the best contract in the league is....lame? Yeah..lame. Or unenlightened. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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- washedup20
On the ice |
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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.21.2013
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Probably, especially if he misses +/- 10 games a year which is reasonable. I'm still fine with that - jcragcrumple
There’s no scenario where letting him walk was good |
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