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hearing skinner will probably be a tad north of 9 per
expect it done today or tomorrow - homiedclown
Word, how many years? |
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gerbe75pts
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- Sabresfan-365
That’s not going to make a difference .
You guys had your Championship game last night and that’s it
Kawhi Will sign with the clippers
And make the Raptors irrelevant again |
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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Here's the scenario:
Both players are 100% dedicated to signing with the Sabres. Jeff says 9, Bread says 11.
I'm paying Bread. But that's clearly not the scenario. - TheSabresTaco
Doesn't have to be.
What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).
There's more than one way to skinner a cat. |
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gerbe75pts
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hearing skinner will probably be a tad north of 9 per
expect it done today or tomorrow - homiedclown
So the same thing everyone’s been reporting the last two days
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RhinoFan
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Word, how many years? - washedup20
Imagine it has to be 8. |
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Watchtower62
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Location: Utica, NY Joined: 03.03.2009
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Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit. - Watchtower62
Isn’t that considered a roster bonus or a signing bonus ? |
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Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Doesn't have to be.
What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).
There's more than one way to skinner a cat. - RhinoFan
Not really
The Sabres cap is very controlled and manageable after next year
No Sobotka, no Bogosian, no Scandella
Move the Okposo contract and the Sabres will have one of the better looking cap situations in the leauge, even if you can't move Okposo they are still fine |
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Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit. - Watchtower62
Every NHL contract is guarenteed
What they can do is front load contract with signing bonuses.
What that means is the cap hit stays the same per year for example:
PLayer X signs a 5 year $50 million contract but gets a $20 milion signing bonus in years 1 and 2
The cap hit will be $10 million a year but they actual dollar amounts will be
$22 million in year 1 in cash
$22 million in year 2 in cash
$2 million in year 3 in cash
$2 million in year 4 in cash
$2 million in year 5 in cash
So in theory that player could get traded to a cash strapped team that needs to hit the salary cap floor but only pay out $2 million in actual cash but carry a cap hit of $10 million
I used these numbers as an example to simplify it |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Doesn't have to be.
What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).
There's more than one way to skinner a cat. - RhinoFan
Never said that's how it has to be. I'm talking now. You can let him go, throw money at a guy and he rejects you. You don't gamble on what ifs in pro sports. If you have an asset you like, you lock him up. My scenario was just for two guys, in a what-if scenario. |
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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So the same thing everyone’s been reporting the last two days
( 🧐😏) - gerbe75pts
or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan
what a d!ck post |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit. - Watchtower62
The entire contract is guaranteed. If there's a buy out, I believe the player still gets the same amount of money, it's just the cap is based on the 2/3 salary remaining at that point in time. Unless he's under I think 25. Then it's 1/3 |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan
what a d!ck post - homiedclown
Why does any of this matter. Let's put our d1cks away and worry about whether olives are garbage. Which they are. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan
what a d!ck post - homiedclown
So you’ve been reporting it was going to be done that day or the next day in December And January?
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Why does any of this matter. Let's put our d1cks away and worry about whether olives are garbage. Which they are. - TheSabresTaco
wrong
take cheap shots at other sabre fans because they want a little more, out of jack or reach out and give information they hear to other fans
and are the green olives garbage, or the black ones?
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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So you’ve been reporting it was going to be done that day or the next day in December And January?
😘
😉 - gerbe75pts
go talk about the nba |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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you could be right, but probably not
take cheap shots at other sabre fans because they want a little more, out of jack or reach out and give information they hear to other fans
and are the green olives garbage, or the black ones? - homiedclown
Just tell him to stop being a piece of poop.
Black olives are poison. Fresh (unpickled), green olives are quite good.
And let's not forget about stuffed italian olives. |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Every NHL contract is guarenteed
What they can do is front load contract with signing bonuses.
What that means is the cap hit stays the same per year for example:
PLayer X signs a 5 year $50 million contract but gets a $20 milion signing bonus in years 1 and 2
The cap hit will be $10 million a year but they actual dollar amounts will be
$22 million in year 1 in cash
$22 million in year 2 in cash
$2 million in year 3 in cash
$2 million in year 4 in cash
$2 million in year 5 in cash
So in theory that player could get traded to a cash strapped team that needs to hit the salary cap floor but only pay out $2 million in actual cash but carry a cap hit of $10 million
I used these numbers as an example to simplify it - Stripes77
I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals. |
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Powerslave
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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go talk about the nba - homiedclown
Noooooooooo!
No more NBA talk! 😴 |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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go talk about the nba - homiedclown
I’m just saying when bob says it’s almost done .. irs over with
People are piggy banking off him |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals. - ImThatGuy
They did. Without looking it up, it's something like, you can't vary any year by more than, I dunno, let's say 40% of the average. But yes, there's no more 20M today and 1M for the last 3 years. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals. - ImThatGuy
I used extreme numbers just to make the math easier
There is some rule in there but I don't remember exactly what it is
I know Pat Kane's last 2 years the actual cash he is owed is $6,9000,000 but his cap hit is $10,500,000 |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I’m just saying when bob says it’s almost done .. irs over with
People are piggy banking off him - gerbe75pts
Let it go man, let's start piggy banking off the Risto for Cirelli, Cally and Foote idea. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Cernak, Cally and Raddysh for Risto |
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JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan
what a d!ck post - homiedclown
LMFAOOOOO SHUT YOUR CLOWN A$$ UP.
“Oh what we have been saying.” lol. We all saw the exact same McKenzie quotes saying 8.5-9.5 AAV. |
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