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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 31 @ 10:15 AM ET
hearing skinner will probably be a tad north of 9 per

expect it done today or tomorrow

- homiedclown



Word, how many years?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:24 AM ET

- Sabresfan-365


That’s not going to make a difference .

You guys had your Championship game last night and that’s it

Kawhi Will sign with the clippers

And make the Raptors irrelevant again
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
Here's the scenario:

Both players are 100% dedicated to signing with the Sabres. Jeff says 9, Bread says 11.

I'm paying Bread. But that's clearly not the scenario.

- TheSabresTaco


Doesn't have to be.

What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).

There's more than one way to skinner a cat.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
hearing skinner will probably be a tad north of 9 per

expect it done today or tomorrow

- homiedclown


So the same thing everyone’s been reporting the last two days


( 🧐😏)
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 31 @ 10:27 AM ET
Word, how many years?
- washedup20


Imagine it has to be 8.
Watchtower62
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Utica, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:30 AM ET
Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit.

- Watchtower62


Isn’t that considered a roster bonus or a signing bonus ?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 31 @ 10:32 AM ET
Doesn't have to be.

What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).

There's more than one way to skinner a cat.

- RhinoFan



Not really

The Sabres cap is very controlled and manageable after next year

No Sobotka, no Bogosian, no Scandella

Move the Okposo contract and the Sabres will have one of the better looking cap situations in the leauge, even if you can't move Okposo they are still fine
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 31 @ 10:35 AM ET
Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit.

- Watchtower62



Every NHL contract is guarenteed

What they can do is front load contract with signing bonuses.

What that means is the cap hit stays the same per year for example:

PLayer X signs a 5 year $50 million contract but gets a $20 milion signing bonus in years 1 and 2

The cap hit will be $10 million a year but they actual dollar amounts will be

$22 million in year 1 in cash
$22 million in year 2 in cash
$2 million in year 3 in cash
$2 million in year 4 in cash
$2 million in year 5 in cash

So in theory that player could get traded to a cash strapped team that needs to hit the salary cap floor but only pay out $2 million in actual cash but carry a cap hit of $10 million

I used these numbers as an example to simplify it
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:38 AM ET
Doesn't have to be.

What we pay Skinner now will effect who we can sign for the better part of a decade. There are other quality FAs. It isn't Skinner/Pan or bust. Save the money, throw it at Hall in a year if you have to. Trade for players who have controlled contracts (RFAs).

There's more than one way to skinner a cat.

- RhinoFan


Never said that's how it has to be. I'm talking now. You can let him go, throw money at a guy and he rejects you. You don't gamble on what ifs in pro sports. If you have an asset you like, you lock him up. My scenario was just for two guys, in a what-if scenario.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 10:39 AM ET
So the same thing everyone’s been reporting the last two days


( 🧐😏)

- gerbe75pts

or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan

what a d!ck post
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:40 AM ET
Does NHL do “guarantees money” like NFL and other sports?
If so, I could see Pegula and Co. doing this to alleviate the cap hit.

- Watchtower62


The entire contract is guaranteed. If there's a buy out, I believe the player still gets the same amount of money, it's just the cap is based on the 2/3 salary remaining at that point in time. Unless he's under I think 25. Then it's 1/3
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:41 AM ET
or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan

what a d!ck post

- homiedclown


Why does any of this matter. Let's put our d1cks away and worry about whether olives are garbage. Which they are.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:42 AM ET
or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan

what a d!ck post

- homiedclown


So you’ve been reporting it was going to be done that day or the next day in December And January?

😘

😉
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 10:43 AM ET
Why does any of this matter. Let's put our d1cks away and worry about whether olives are garbage. Which they are.
- TheSabresTaco

wrong

take cheap shots at other sabre fans because they want a little more, out of jack or reach out and give information they hear to other fans

and are the green olives garbage, or the black ones?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 10:44 AM ET
So you’ve been reporting it was going to be done that day or the next day in December And January?

😘

😉

- gerbe75pts

go talk about the nba
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:45 AM ET
you could be right, but probably not

take cheap shots at other sabre fans because they want a little more, out of jack or reach out and give information they hear to other fans

and are the green olives garbage, or the black ones?

- homiedclown


Just tell him to stop being a piece of poop.

Black olives are poison. Fresh (unpickled), green olives are quite good.

And let's not forget about stuffed italian olives.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 31 @ 10:45 AM ET
Every NHL contract is guarenteed

What they can do is front load contract with signing bonuses.

What that means is the cap hit stays the same per year for example:

PLayer X signs a 5 year $50 million contract but gets a $20 milion signing bonus in years 1 and 2

The cap hit will be $10 million a year but they actual dollar amounts will be

$22 million in year 1 in cash
$22 million in year 2 in cash
$2 million in year 3 in cash
$2 million in year 4 in cash
$2 million in year 5 in cash

So in theory that player could get traded to a cash strapped team that needs to hit the salary cap floor but only pay out $2 million in actual cash but carry a cap hit of $10 million

I used these numbers as an example to simplify it

- Stripes77



I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 31 @ 10:45 AM ET
go talk about the nba
- homiedclown




Noooooooooo!

No more NBA talk! 😴
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 31 @ 10:47 AM ET
go talk about the nba
- homiedclown


I’m just saying when bob says it’s almost done .. irs over with

People are piggy banking off him
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:47 AM ET
I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals.

- ImThatGuy


They did. Without looking it up, it's something like, you can't vary any year by more than, I dunno, let's say 40% of the average. But yes, there's no more 20M today and 1M for the last 3 years.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 31 @ 10:48 AM ET
I thought they fixed it where you could only reduce the money by x percent year over year.
Aka no more Hossa deals.

- ImThatGuy


I used extreme numbers just to make the math easier

There is some rule in there but I don't remember exactly what it is

I know Pat Kane's last 2 years the actual cash he is owed is $6,9000,000 but his cap hit is $10,500,000
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:48 AM ET
I’m just saying when bob says it’s almost done .. irs over with

People are piggy banking off him

- gerbe75pts


Let it go man, let's start piggy banking off the Risto for Cirelli, Cally and Foote idea.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 10:50 AM ET
Cernak, Cally and Raddysh for Risto
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 31 @ 10:53 AM ET
or what myself and 89 reported in december and jan

what a d!ck post

- homiedclown



LMFAOOOOO SHUT YOUR CLOWN A$$ UP.

“Oh what we have been saying.” lol. We all saw the exact same McKenzie quotes saying 8.5-9.5 AAV.
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