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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
who was more important in mogilny's 76 goal season, alex or pat?
- homiedclown

IMO, Alex. But obviously playing with a play-maker such as Patty helped but I would argue it's Mogilny that elevated LaFontaine's game to the next level, and if it weren't for the injuries, Mogilny would easily have had 750+ goals. Look at how long he played and how well he played despite having two shot knees (before medical procedures got more advanced).

Don't forget, Patty came here the season before Mogilny's 76 goal season. If you look at it, they probably just complimented each other perfectly, but at the end of the day, Mogilny was burying those shots regardless of who was setting him up. He scored 76 goals. Not the guy passing it to him.

Edit: Of course, I'd make the same excuse for Pat and his injuries, too so I am not hating on him. They are the two greatest Sabres that weren't the French Connection or Hasek imo.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
I went easy on Al for giving out the deadwood movie spoiler, less then 12 hours after first airing




- homiedclown

Looking old as (frank) in John Wick 3
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 1 @ 12:54 PM ET

- homiedclown

Saw their costumes being toted around on a golf cart at Bonnaroo.
kinda weird when in a different frame of mind.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
Looking old as (frank) in John Wick 3
- jochfr



(frank), I hope I look that good and have that much piss and vinegar when I'm 76.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
So, we're not getting Jake Gardiner, then.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
Looking old as (frank) in John Wick 3
- jochfr



Well he’s almost 80.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
I watched it, disappointed that Al wasn't a bigger part, had him sick and dying the entire movie and killed him off in the end. I wish Hearst was the one who got it when they were stomping him in the thoroughfare. I thought the statehood part was going to be a bigger story. It was all about Hearst. Not good.
- mhp



It was interesting, I liked it for the most part. They could've killed Hearst, but he was a real, living person, so they can't really go too far in what they do to him. I think getting the poop kicked out of him in the mud for about 20 seconds is as good as you're going to get, unfortunately. But in saying that it did feel a little disappointing.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 1 @ 1:32 PM ET
Well he’s almost 80.
- dadeadhead

Irrelevant
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 1:34 PM ET
Are you including Nylander's contract holdout? Because Nylander's been really healthy
- RogerRoeper


Yes. It's even worse, he chose not to play until five minutes before the deadline that would've had him miss an entire season. And when he finally did play he put up points at a 66% pace from the previous year, might as well have been injured.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
It was interesting, I liked it for the most part. They could've killed Hearst, but he was a real, living person, so they can't really go too far in what they do to him. I think getting the poop kicked out of him in the mud for about 20 seconds is as good as you're going to get, unfortunately. But in saying that it did feel a little disappointing.
- Wetbandit1



Al was a real life person too. Had a twin brother, owned the Gem, and died in Denver of a head wound.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Irrelevant
- jochfr



Well I mean we all can’t look rode hard and put away wet like you.


😉
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
Well I mean we all can’t look rode hard and put away wet like you.


😉

- dadeadhead

and fat
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
Al was a real life person too. Had a twin brother, owned the Gem, and died in Denver of a head wound.
- dadeadhead


A lot of the characters were based on real people. I just meant in Hearst's specific circumstance, can't kill a guy who didn't die until 2 years later in D.C..
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:14 PM ET
A lot of the characters were based on real people. I just meant in Hearst's specific circumstance, can't kill a guy who didn't die until 2 years later in D.C..
- Wetbandit1



Odd because they had a guy pass away in Deadwood in 1889 who actually died in Denver in 1904.........
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
And 9.5 million?

Sure fitz

- Boss34


Idk what that means?

You’re acting like there’s some HUGE difference between 8.75 and 9.5

It’s pretty negligible in the grand scheme
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
Idk what that means?

You’re acting like there’s some HUGE difference between 8.75 and 9.5

It’s pretty negligible in the grand scheme

- jdfitz77



If there isn’t, you mind throwing $750k my way?


I kid, I kid
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
This post gave me an erection.

I agree.

Point totals are an awful way to evaluate players

- sbroads24


90% of your posts on Evander Kane say hello
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
Idk what that means?

You’re acting like there’s some HUGE difference between 8.75 and 9.5

It’s pretty negligible in the grand scheme

- jdfitz77

it's not like the first pick in the 6th round for the 20th pick in the 6th round in the following year
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
90% of your posts on Evander Kane say hello
- jdfitz77

Sure....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
like special teams?


I kid
I kid

- homiedclown


I’ve heard that the most common metric between Cup winners is a great PK
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
I’ve heard that the most common metric between Cup winners is a great PK
- jdfitz77

Probably has to do with goaltending more
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
Probably has to do with goaltending more
- sbroads24


Chicken & egg argument

Did the goalie get “hot” and make the defense look better?
Or is the defense playing better & making the goalie look good?
Probably a bit of both

But I’ve heard some various analytics guys saying that the big common denominator in Cup teams has been a great PK
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
Sure....
- sbroads24


It’s true, and u know it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
If there isn’t, you mind throwing $750k my way?


I kid, I kid

- dadeadhead


750k is the difference between keeping someone like Girgs or Larsson,
Or bringing up Cj Smith or Asplund

It’s a no brainer
I’ll take Skinner + one of the kids in the lineup please
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
Chicken & egg argument

Did the goalie get “hot” and make the defense look better?
Or is the defense playing better & making the goalie look good?
Probably a bit of both

But I’ve heard some various analytics guys saying that the big common denominator in Cup teams has been a great PK

- jdfitz77

Well you would just have to see if the PK is giving up a ton of chances and the goalie is bailing them out or if the PK is just not even giving teams the time of day.

It’s probably a combination of both
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