If Eichel and Sam played a full 82 together I think Eichel would get 40 and Sam would get 30.
- Pegullaville

Sam is far more likely to become a 30g 80pt guy than regress at all. They should line him up for an extension right after they sign Skinner.

If botts didnt trade away O'Reilly we would have made the playoffs last year.

Skinner/Eichel/who cares
Sheary/O'Reilly/Reinhart
- Mentalorgasm5

If RoR stayed, Skinner isn't here.

What’s the over under on when people start to complain about Skinner’s contract ? 2 maybe 3 years ?
- Pegullaville

When he is on pace to score less than say 35 goals per.
That contract, IMO is predicated on a perennial 40 G's...
Stry too far and let the sh1tshow begin.

If RoR stayed, Skinner isn't here.
- Lunaion

Why not? We wouldnt have had Sbotka and Berglund. Cap wouldnt have been an issue.

If Botts was thinking the same, kick him to the curb. He needs to add and improve, not just look for lateral moves.

Skinner has the speed where he wont drop off big time when it hits his 30s. This team is set up that they will not be in a cap crunch. By the time they are paying Dahlin, too many contracts all falling off the books.

Im sick of the argument in 3 or 4 years ahead we wont have space, so we should not acquire good players. Look at the results.

Not to mention the cap will have a big jump when Seattle enters the league, and a new TV deal. Cap isnt a concern right now. Acquire talent.
- Mentalorgasm5

Sound logic.

Why not? We wouldnt have had Sbotka and Berglund. Cap wouldnt have been an issue.

If Botts was thinking the same, kick him to the curb. He needs to add and improve, not just look for lateral moves.
- Mentalorgasm5

Long term salary commitments mater, a lot. JB's acknowledged that moving RoR allowed him the cap flexibility to add and attempt to resign Skinner.

"Terrible 2OA pick"
"Can't dive his own line"
"Can't produce away from Jack"
"Garbage goals"
"Below average shot"
"Too slow"
"Parties too much"
"Weak in his own zone"

I think 5x5 would sound really good about now, for a bum like Sam.
- PrinceChill

WoW......You probably wanted Sam Bennett
Just to help you out a bit, here are the Top Ten Selections of the 2014/15 Draft
Samson Reinhart is 2nd in pts and 3rd in Games played but not good enough for u.

Games Goals Assists Pts

1. Aaron Eckblad 391 66 105 171

2. Sam Reinhart 331 87 118 205

3. Leon Draisaitl 351 125 187 312

4. Sam Bennett 312 55 61 116

5. Micheal Del Cole 32 3 4 7

6. Jake Virtanen 210 32 27 59

7. Hayden Fleury 87 0 9 9

8. William Nylander 239 55 107 162

9. Nikolaj Ehlers 298 90 109 199

10. Nick Ritchie 246 35 55 90

I’d rather pick top 10 again next year and be a juggernaut the next 15 seasons and back up the brinks truck for Taylor Hall.
- Pegullaville

Holy (frank) no

WoW......You probably wanted Sam Bennett
Just to help you out a bit, here are the Top Ten Selections of the 2014/15 Draft
Samson Reinhart is 2nd in pts and 3rd in Games played but not good enough for u.

Games Goals Assists Pts

1. Aaron Eckblad 391 66 105 171

2. Sam Reinhart 331 87 118 205

3. Leon Draisaitl 351 125 187 312

4. Sam Bennett 312 55 61 116

5. Micheal Del Cole 32 3 4 7

6. Jake Virtanen 210 32 27 59

7. Hayden Fleury 87 0 9 9

8. William Nylander 239 55 107 162

9. Nikolaj Ehlers 298 90 109 199

10. Nick Ritchie 246 35 55 90


- MEBSabresFAN

Pasternak, Draisatil, Larkin > Sam.

Sam is in the discussion with Nylander and Ehlers

Holy no
- sbroads24

Why not? How could a plan centered on signing Hall as a UFA possibly go wrong?

Long term salary commitments mater, a lot. JB's acknowledged that moving RoR allowed him the cap flexibility to add and attempt to resign Skinner.
- Lunaion

Again, this team has no problems long term. They dont have players signed long term.

Botts should have kept O'Reilly, simple as that. Now there is talks we are looking at Duchene for more money and longer term than O'Reilly. Sort of contradicts the issue for long term issues.

Why not? How could a plan centered on signing Hall as a UFA possibly go wrong?
- Lunaion

The top 10 pick in 2020 would be the centrepiece. Scouts are already comparing 2020 to 2015.

The Sabres need to start winning though for the sanity of the fan base.

The top 10 pick in 2020 would be the centrepiece. Scouts are already comparing 2020 to 2015.

The Sabres need to start winning though for the sanity of the fan base.
- Pegullaville

Smh. I heard scouts compare Hall as a player who can net 30 goals and a point per game. Im looking into the truth to these claims.

he could hit 50 on jack's wing, could is a big word and rumors are he wants 10 mil per

yet several posters here do not want to pay skinner more then 7 mil and he did score 40 goals on jack's wing


I seriously doubt a line of skinner, eichel and laine would get 120 goals and laine was demoted to the 3rd line for his lack of effort
- homiedclown

I don't know that I'd pay Laine $10M, but 6 years is a huge difference.

But that also opens up a huge hole on the left side. Sheary becomes the de facto 1LW if they signed Laine over Skinner.

Smh. I heard scouts compare Hall as a player who can net 30 goals and a point per game. Im looking into the truth to these claims.
- Mentalorgasm5

Didn’t Hall do that last year when he won the Hart ? This year he would have done it again until he got hurt. Hall is a top 5 LW in then NHL.

Again, this team has no problems long term. They dont have players signed long term.

Botts should have kept O'Reilly, simple as that. Now there is talks we are looking at Duchene for more money and longer term than O'Reilly. Sort of contradicts the issue for long term issues.
- Mentalorgasm5

You can say that. Doesn't make it right.

Didn’t Hall do that last year when he won the Hart ? This year he would have done it again until he got hurt. Hall is a top 5 LW in then NHL.
- Pegullaville

Yes, i was being sarcastic.

You can say that. Doesn't make it right.
- Lunaion

True. The simple fact that they wouldnt have cap issues makes it right. Facts, they are kind of scary.

Would you go Reinhart, 7, and 30?
- PrinceChill

Way too much imo

True. The simple fact that they wouldnt have cap issues makes it right. Facts, they are kind of scary.
- Mentalorgasm5

No, it doesn't. Sign a moderate UFA this year, pay an average price for your goaltending, and forecast this team 3, 4, 5 years out. You'll see quickly that there are significant cap issues to consider that impact your decisions today.

How would people feel about Sami Vatanen ( 1 year at 4.875), Pavel Zacha, and NJ's 2nd for Risto?
- Mentalorgasm5

Zacha is not good, and Vatanen had an awful year. He was better on the Ducks.

No, it doesn't. Sign a moderate UFA this year, pay an average price for your goaltending, and forecast this team 3, 4, 5 years out. You'll see quickly that there are significant cap issues to consider that impact your decisions today.
- Lunaion

Already did, it really isnt difficult. Hence why this team sucks. Keeping looking a decade out.

WoW......You probably wanted Sam Bennett
Just to help you out a bit, here are the Top Ten Selections of the 2014/15 Draft
Samson Reinhart is 2nd in pts and 3rd in Games played but not good enough for u.

Games Goals Assists Pts

1. Aaron Eckblad 391 66 105 171

2. Sam Reinhart 331 87 118 205

3. Leon Draisaitl 351 125 187 312

4. Sam Bennett 312 55 61 116

5. Micheal Del Cole 32 3 4 7

6. Jake Virtanen 210 32 27 59

7. Hayden Fleury 87 0 9 9

8. William Nylander 239 55 107 162

9. Nikolaj Ehlers 298 90 109 199

10. Nick Ritchie 246 35 55 90


- MEBSabresFAN

I was worried I didn't make myself clear enough. I am a Samson fan, he was the guy I wanted them to pick. I was bringing up the typical criticisms folks leveled at him and how hard they try to not like the good things he brings to the team. He was one of the only players on the team that outplayed his contract last year.

Way too much imo
- jcragcrumple

Agree completely. I wouldn't want the Sabres to trade 7OA in any scenario until we know who is available there.

Why not? We wouldnt have had Sbotka and Berglund. Cap wouldnt have been an issue.

If Botts was thinking the same, kick him to the curb. He needs to add and improve, not just look for lateral moves.
- Mentalorgasm5

i'm not sure botts was really enamored with him...and i'm pretty sure that $7.5m aav, didn't sit too well either...I think he got out when he could and took the near-term hit just to do so