I would think Hughes is more valuable then Eichel. Cheap contract for three years, why would NJ do that?
- Fattony1187

I have to disagree with this notion.

A #1 overall pick is great sure... but he is unproven and not sure how or if his game will translate.

Why would you trade a 22 year old PPG+ proven 1C in the NHL for that? Just because he has earned a big contract? I don't agree.

A proven 1C is a lot harder to find IMO.

hughes plus


moves the rebuild around hughes dahlin, etc


I would only consider it if skinner walks and the plus is decent of course

I thought this team was turning the corner, and instead was the worst team in the nhl for the last 4 months


maybe the new coach can improve things, but most of this team has tuned out anyone behind the bench
- homiedclown

Interesting, and true from the bleechers.
Interesting because
a)they have grown tone deaf to both Bylsma and Housley..two very different Coaches and Systems
B)the roster over those 4 years has changed significantly in each offseason, save for a few.

I have to disagree with this notion.

A #1 overall pick defensemen is great sure... but he is unproven and not sure how or if his game will translate.

Why would you trade a 22 year old PPG+ proven 1C in the NHL for that? Just because he has earned a big contract? I don't agree.

A proven 1C is a lot harder to find IMO.
- JVince11

Jack Hughes is a Centre

Jack Hughes is a Centre
- Sabresfan-365

You know who's not, though?

Jack Hughes is a Centre
- Sabresfan-365

I was thinking of the other Hughes... it's too early for this sh1t. My bad.

You know who's not, though?
- TheSabresTaco

ROR?

You mean like Hughes, a 2020 pick and a tad more? How does it make the team better short/long term to trade Eichel for someone with a lower ceiling
- Sabresfan-365

1. makes the team younger
2. no cap issues
3. hughes plus for at least 11 years, vs jack for 7

and if skinner walks, this team will probably not compete for another 2 or 3 years


not saying I would do it, but no player is untouchable and there is a NMC that kicks in a few years from now


we have wasted the first 4 years of jack

7 left


tick tock botts

I have to disagree with this notion.

A #1 overall pick defensemen is great sure... but he is unproven and not sure how or if his game will translate.

Why would you trade a 22 year old PPG+ proven 1C in the NHL for that? Just because he has earned a big contract? I don't agree.

A proven 1C is a lot harder to find IMO.
- JVince11

Hughes is a center

Edit: Late

I would think Hughes is more valuable then Eichel. Cheap contract for three years, why would NJ do that?
- Fattony1187

Not a knock on you but I don't get this rationale... Wouldn't a 27 year old see smaller contracts as a benefit? That way he could get one more big pay day in the 32-33 age range?

In addition... the NY income tax rate is VERY high at 8.82. He could play in Philly/PIT and be taxed at 3.07, ARZ at 4.5, or for Chicago at 4.95. Could play for Vegas, Florida, Nashville, or Dallas with NO income tax.

In fact... the only teams that he would play for with a HIGHER tax rate would be ANA, LA, SJ, MIN, NJ, or any Canadian team WPG.
- JVince11

Tax rates would only count for 41 times in NY.

Plus here he gets to play in Florida 8X per year which is 0% income tax.
Only other teams to do that are in teh division, unless he actually signs with Florida or Tampa.

Both Florida and Tampa are out as Tampa cant afford him and Florida has its sights set on Bob and Panarin.

1. makes the team younger
2. no cap issues
3. hughes plus for at least 11 years, vs jack for 7

and if skinner walks, this team will probably not compete for another 2 or 3 years


not saying I would do it, but no player is untouchable and there is a NMC that kicks in a few years from now


we have wasted the first 4 years of jack

7 left


tick tock botts
- homiedclown

By this logic it'd be in the franchise's best interest to just trade anyone not named dahlin for 1st round picks in 2020 to ensure prime odds at lafreniere.

He's not untouchable because I or we think he's perfect. He's untouchable because any offer you get at best sets the team back several years, at worst (and most likely) you give up the best player in the deal short and long term.

ROR?
- jochfr

Ott. Steve Ott.

I have to disagree with this notion.

A #1 overall pick is great sure... but he is unproven and not sure how or if his game will translate.

Why would you trade a 22 year old PPG+ proven 1C in the NHL for that? Just because he has earned a big contract? I don't agree.

A proven 1C is a lot harder to find IMO.
- JVince11

Hughes is also a Center. And this is a cap league. Eichel right now is slightly overpaid, hopefully in the next couple years he will be underpaid by turning it up a notch.

Hughes will be grossly underpaid for his projected performance for the next three years. That prob has more value since NJ could have a Hughes and a Panarin for the same price as an Eichel for three years. I think that’s where Homie was coming from by trading an Eichel.

This is if you project Hughes to be similiar talent to Eichel, I’m not sure how they are supposed to compare.

By this logic it'd be in the franchise's best interest to just trade anyone not named dahlin for 1st round picks in 2020 to ensure prime odds at lafreniere.

He's not untouchable because I or we think he's perfect. He's untouchable because any offer you get at best sets the team back several years, at worst (and most likely) you give up the best player in the deal short and long term.
- Sabresfan-365

I was thinking we trade Dahlin for a few 1sts once his elc expires.

For a 26 year old that has 33 and 31 goals in his last two seasons and 76 points in each of his last two seasons, we're GIVING away Risto?

I think not.

We want Kyle Turris and Cody Eakin, though, right? 😉 😂
- Powerslave

You need to proof read before you post, I never said WE I said ME, I wouldn't mind Turris or Eakin. I think not

Probably late with this but (frank) you and the horse you rode in on.


7. Buffalo Sabres
Kimelman -- Cole Caufield, RW, USA U-18 (NTDP): Forget the size (5-7, 162), Caufield is the best goal-scorer in the draft. With a great release, he can get off from anywhere in the offensive zone and he also has underrated vision, passing ability and skating that's reminiscent of Pittsburgh Penguins forward and NTDP alum Phil Kessel.

Morreale -- Caufield: The University of Wisconsin recruit is the best natural goal-scorer in the draft; he set the single-season NTDP record with 72 goals in 64 games this season. The right-hand shot is skilled without the puck, finding open space on the ice to set himself up and provide easy outlets for teammates.

Lepage -- Dach: Here is a big power forward who would strengthen the Sabres down the middle. Dach not only brings size but plays at a high speed and has good touch around the net.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...rcotte-cozens/c-307674218

- gerbe75pts

I’m talking value Gerbe, how a GM would consider cap costs. This has no bearing on who is the better player. I wouldn’t trade. But I also think NJ wouldn’t either to the posters that want to do this.

***** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - HB MOCK DRAFT *****

Jan Levine is running another Mock Draft similarly to the one she ran last year on her Blog Page.
The picks are made by Posters who volunteered to do so about 2 weeks ago or so.

I was selected, along with another HB-er, JerryJ22 to represent the Sabres this year.

Jerry and I have agreed that we want to make this inclusive of the fine Posters here on Micheals Blog.

Jerry and I will work through the Process of trying to gain consensus of you ALL.
I see it going something like this, but yet to be fully fleshed out:
1 - develop our Draft Board on a BPA basis
2 - identify our top 3 needs by position
3 - identify what would trigger us to trade the pickes (7 & 30/31)

With that plan, I would see us being able to react fairly quickly when our time to pick arrives...but still trying to reach consensus on our decision of what option to take.

The Draft date is still TBD, but could start soon or wait until the Playoffs are over then working pretty quickly (like 2 selections night, maybe 3 towards the end).

Again, trying to be inclusive, we would like your input on the Process outlined above...
THOUGHTS?
- IonSabres

BUMP

Hughes is also a Center. And this is a cap league. Eichel right now is slightly overpaid, hopefully in the next couple years he will be underpaid by turning it up a notch.

Hughes will be grossly underpaid for his projected performance for the next three years. That prob has more value since NJ could have a Hughes and a Panarin for the same price as an Eichel for three years. I think that’s where Homie was coming from by trading an Eichel.

This is if you project Hughes to be similar talent to Eichel, I’m not sure how they are supposed to compare.
- Fattony1187

It's fine to want Hughes, but wanting Hughes and wanting to be competitive tomorrow run contradictory.

I was thinking we trade Dahlin for a few 1sts once his elc expires.
- TheSabresTaco

A name change is in order too.

Buffalo ELC's


Electric Liver Combustors (working name)

Probably late with this but (frank) you and the horse you rode in on.


7. Buffalo Sabres
Kimelman -- Cole Caufield, RW, USA U-18 (NTDP): Forget the size (5-7, 162), Caufield is the best goal-scorer in the draft. With a great release, he can get off from anywhere in the offensive zone and he also has underrated vision, passing ability and skating that's reminiscent of Pittsburgh Penguins forward and NTDP alum Phil Kessel.

Morreale -- Caufield: The University of Wisconsin recruit is the best natural goal-scorer in the draft; he set the single-season NTDP record with 72 goals in 64 games this season. The right-hand shot is skilled without the puck, finding open space on the ice to set himself up and provide easy outlets for teammates.

Lepage -- Dach: Here is a big power forward who would strengthen the Sabres down the middle. Dach not only brings size but plays at a high speed and has good touch around the net.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...rcotte-cozens/c-307674218
- jochfr

Day late and $18 short, butthole.

hughes plus


moves the rebuild around hughes dahlin, etc


I would only consider it if skinner walks and the plus is decent of course

I thought this team was turning the corner, and instead was the worst team in the nhl for the last 4 months


maybe the new coach can improve things, but most of this team has tuned out anyone behind the bench
- homiedclown

This is Pegullaville 2.0.

Rebuild through 2022. I'm tired of watching the team suck and want good players in their prime NOW so that we can compete NOW.

The biggest problem isn't that most of this team has tuned out anyone behind the bench. The biggest problem is that 5 good players in their prime can't have season-long success when they're the only ones pulling the carriage forward. We need effective talent throughout the lineup now.

Probably late with this but (frank) you and the horse you rode in on.


7. Buffalo Sabres
Kimelman -- Cole Caufield, RW, USA U-18 (NTDP): Forget the size (5-7, 162), Caufield is the best goal-scorer in the draft. With a great release, he can get off from anywhere in the offensive zone and he also has underrated vision, passing ability and skating that's reminiscent of Pittsburgh Penguins forward and NTDP alum Phil Kessel.

Morreale -- Caufield: The University of Wisconsin recruit is the best natural goal-scorer in the draft; he set the single-season NTDP record with 72 goals in 64 games this season. The right-hand shot is skilled without the puck, finding open space on the ice to set himself up and provide easy outlets for teammates.

Lepage -- Dach: Here is a big power forward who would strengthen the Sabres down the middle. Dach not only brings size but plays at a high speed and has good touch around the net.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...rcotte-cozens/c-307674218
- jochfr

(frank) you too, but thank you.

Idk unless someone falls, he's probably got the highest upside at 7.

- gerbe75pts

THIS... all day.

Eichel was 24th overall scoring and in PPG player in the NHL this season.

You think any of these teams are willing to trade the likes of Malkin, JT, Panarin, Ovechkin, Hall, Huberdeau, Giroux, Landeskog, Scheifele, Monahan, Point, or Matthews for Jack Hughes?

Those are the players directly above and below Jack in PPG this season. GET REAL.

It's fine to want Hughes, but wanting Hughes and wanting to be competitive tomorrow run contradictory.
- TheSabresTaco

Again I don’t want to do this trade. I was responding to a poster who thinks NJ would trade Hughes plus for Eichel. I was saying to NJ that #1 pick and Hughes has more value then Eichel. You might disagree but I think they hang up if we wanted Eichel plus