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2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 7:47 AM ET
I dont know man, I am not the biggest RNH guy at all

I feel like he's been there forever and he's just "there"

the one year they made the playoffs and went on a semi little run he barely even contributed offensively

they'd be smart to trade him now after his best offensive season of his career

- jimbro83


Yeah, you are right. They should just run with Vesey and a 2nd and laugh all the way to the bank
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 7:52 AM ET
not sure how accurate this is but it may be that Reunanen goes back to Finland after training camp, unless he just dazzles. Lots of competition on left side for him to make it right out of gate.


- jimbro83


He will definitely be Hartford bound if he stays here. I'm guessing the team knows something if they chose now to sign him to the ELC. I think he can't slide anymore. I know I have been drinking kool-aid on this guy awhile, I really think he can push Rykov a bit. His game just seems so fluid. He will never be a star, but I could see him as a pretty good 2nd pair guy.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 7:56 AM ET
I dont know man, I am not the biggest RNH guy at all

I feel like he's been there forever and he's just "there"

the one year they made the playoffs and went on a semi little run he barely even contributed offensively

they'd be smart to trade him now after his best offensive season of his career

- jimbro83


Also want to point out that on a ppg basis, he's been better than you probably think. He had one dud of a year where he played the whole year and only got 43 points. You do have to take in account the tire fire that organazation has been. Let me point you to this guy's stats:

https://www.hockey-refere...m/players/h/hallta02.html

Hall had the 80 point year with the Oilers, but you can see he was pretty up and down himself before the trade. A team in constant turmoil can really weigh down the whole roster. A lot would be expected from RNH here if we got him, but his support structure would be so much better. I wouldn't expect like 80 pts, but no reason why he couldn't get 60+. That's all we really need as a 2C
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 7:59 AM ET
He will definitely be Hartford bound if he stays here. I'm guessing the team knows something if they chose now to sign him to the ELC. I think he can't slide anymore. I know I have been drinking kool-aid on this guy awhile, I really think he can push Rykov a bit. His game just seems so fluid. He will never be a star, but I could see him as a pretty good 2nd pair guy.
- 2sticks1puck


I hope so, both these guys need some seasoning on North American size rinks

it's not impossible he wins a job out of training camp and having him here with Kakko would make both their transitions easier

he is 21 years old, not 18, so it is possible, just quite unlikely especially considering all the competition
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:15 AM ET
The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

Unless the vote thing isn't happening and you can post multiple picks a day.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 8:35 AM ET
The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

Unless the vote thing isn't happening and you can post multiple picks a day.

- TPC


yeah, I know Jan has some issues with holidays right now, I let him know through PM I recommend it gets going ASAP as well
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Jun 6 @ 8:36 AM ET
The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

Unless the vote thing isn't happening and you can post multiple picks a day.

- TPC


I think we should just start this at pick 3. Hughes/Kakko have to be locked in as 1 and 2 right? I'm kind of glad someone took Buffalo apparently before I could. I'm going to Vegas next week and I might have been #thatguy who would have potentially held the thing up.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 8:39 AM ET
I think we should just start this at pick 3. Hughes/Kakko have to be locked in as 1 and 2 right? I'm kind of glad someone took Buffalo apparently before I could. I'm going to Vegas next week and I might have been #thatguy who would have potentially held the thing up.
- 2sticks1puck


yep, Jan did tell me that the guy he has picking for the Devils let him know it's Hughes

Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 6 @ 8:42 AM ET
[quote=TPC]The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

I am going to get this started sometime today. Then post my pick tomorrow and allow for the conversation to marinate and ask for the Chicago team owner to give me the third pick with the vote. I am back on line Monday night and will start with the fourth pick then. Figure one per day for the lottery with the voting and when we go to non-lottery picks, we can do two per day with the voting as well. Let me know if this approach makes sense.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 8:48 AM ET
[quote=TPC]The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

I am going to get this started sometime today. Then post my pick tomorrow and allow for the conversation to marinate and ask for the Chicago team owner to give me the third pick with the vote. I am back on line Monday night and will start with the fourth pick then. Figure one per day for the lottery with the voting and when we go to non-lottery picks, we can do two per day with the voting as well. Let me know if this approach makes sense.

- airjan23


I know for me I might not be available as much next week, but would you guys be opposed if we started a "draft studio?" Like someone makes a pick and a few members (I'd be one of the members) would just write our opinion of the pick ala the desk guys. I don't want the people to view this as pretentious or feel some kind of way if anyone disagrees with their pick. The only stipulation I'd ask is you can't be a studio guy if you are a GM in this.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:48 AM ET
[quote=TPC]The draft is 2 weeks away, and I remember last year this mock draft was basically like a pick a day cause then everyone would vote on it.

Feel like it should get started asap.

I am going to get this started sometime today. Then post my pick tomorrow and allow for the conversation to marinate and ask for the Chicago team owner to give me the third pick with the vote. I am back on line Monday night and will start with the fourth pick then. Figure one per day for the lottery with the voting and when we go to non-lottery picks, we can do two per day with the voting as well. Let me know if this approach makes sense.

- airjan23

That sounds good to me
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 8:53 AM ET
I know for me I might not be available as much next week, but would you guys be opposed if we started a "draft studio?" Like someone makes a pick and a few members (I'd be one of the members) would just write our opinion of the pick ala the desk guys. I don't want the people to view this as pretentious or feel some kind of way if anyone disagrees with their pick. The only stipulation I'd ask is you can't be a studio guy if you are a GM in this.
- 2sticks1puck


yeah, sounds cool

Pete V isn't a GM, he'd be a good studio guy if he's around
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:05 AM ET
yeah, sounds cool

Pete V isn't a GM, he'd be a good studio guy if he's around

- jimbro83


PeteV is driving cross country in his armored suv going to soccer games
jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Jun 6 @ 9:13 AM ET
PeteV is driving cross country in his armored suv going to soccer games
- mdw7413


this is unacceptable
jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Jun 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
since most of you guys dont have the Athletic, I am going to post Corey Pronman's entire mock draft that he just posted
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
Pronman:

If the calendar says it’s June, that means it is officially mock draft season.

I have already compiled my ranking of the draft-eligible players with profiles of all the prospects. Now, this is a look at what I think will happen on draft day.

New Jersey: Jack Hughes, C, USNTDP-USHL
Despite a very strong late push from Kaapo Kakko at worlds, all indications are the Devils’ preference is Hughes at this stage – even if the decision is a little tougher than it would have been a month ago.

New York Rangers: Kaapo Kakko, RW, TPS-Liiga
The Rangers haven’t really hidden their cards on this front. It’s expected they will take whomever of Hughes or Kakko is available at No. 2. I haven’t heard any mentions or rumblings otherwise.

Chicago: Alex Turcotte, C, USNTDP-USHL
I’ve heard a myriad of names for Chicago, between Turcotte, Bowen Byram, Cole Caufield, Kirby Dach and Trevor Zegras. Enough people seem reasonably confident that Turcotte will be the pick that I’m slotting him here, but it is not close to a consensus among sources.

Colorado: Bowen Byram, D, Vancouver-WHL
I’ve heard Colorado’s preference is to get a forward/center so they would love to get Turcotte. With that said, if Turcotte goes at No. 3, more hockey people than not think the Avalanche will take Byram as the best player available rather than go after Zegras or Dach, who are the other names rumored to be of interest to Colorado.

Los Angeles: Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon-WHL
The names I’ve heard with the Kings are the two Western centers Dach and Dylan Cozens. I don’t think it’s a lock that Dach gets to No. 5, but there’s been very strong interest in him all season from NHL folks despite his just fine numbers because of his elite toolkit. I think if Byram doesn’t go in the top four, he lands here (sorry, Detroit fans).

Detroit: Trevor Zegras, C, USNTDP-USHL
I’ve heard Zegras, Dach and Vasili Podkolzin rumored to Detroit. It makes sense given Steve Yzerman’s preference for drafting skill, as well as how little hesitance he shows for drafting Russians. There was skepticism talking to sources at the combine about Zegras being Detroit’s pick, but enough people have pegged him there that I’ll go with that one.

Buffalo: Dylan Cozens, C, Lethbridge-WHL
I could see Buffalo go with Caufield or Matthew Boldy here, but Cozens is a more well-rounded player than both and would make Buffalo feel more comfortable than picking an average skater in Boldy or the 5-foot-7 player in Caufield. Cozens could play center or winger to fit multiple ways into the Sabres’ growing stockpile of young forwards.

Edmonton: Philip Broberg, D, AIK-Allsvenskan
The sense in the industry is the Oilers want immediate help, whether with the No. 8 pick or using the pick to get something. I think that rules out Podkolzin. And while Caufield seems like a player that could help the Oilers, teams are worried that, if he doesn’t truly hit, you might be waiting for him to develop for a while. Broberg will need a year or two, but he has the physical tools to move quickly to the NHL and makes sense on talent. Cozens is a possibility here, too, for that reason.

Anaheim: Peyton Krebs, C, Winnipeg-WHL
Anaheim’s been a tough team to pin down. I could see Krebs, Alex Newhook or Broberg as the pick here. I haven’t gotten the sense the Ducks are in on Caufield. The organization could use another top-level center prospect to accompany Sam Steel, and Krebs fits that bill.

Vancouver: Cole Caufield, RW, USNTDP-USHL
If the draft plays out this way, I could see Broberg or Caufield as the pick for the Canucks. The Canucks would likely prefer to get the top defenseman, even if they just picked Quinn Hughes a year ago, but it would be hard to pass on 72 goal scorer Caufield and the ability to line him up next to a guy like Elias Pettersson.

Philadelphia: Matthew Boldy, LW, USNTDP-USHL
I think Philly would love for Broberg to get to them to add a true top-tier defenseman to its farm system. If the draft plays out like this, though, it would be hard for them to pass on the elite skill Boldy has at No. 11. After the Kirill Kaprizov saga in Minnesota, I don’t know if I can see the Chuck Fletcher regime picking a player signed by SKA in Podkolzin.

Minnesota: Arthur Kaliyev, RW, Hamilton-OHL
Minnesota’s organization is in desperate need of a player who can score, and Kaliyev hit 50 this season. I could see Podkolzin as a player the Wild would like stylisically, but the aforementioned Kaprizov saga may test the fanbase if that was the case.

Florida: Moritz Seider, D, Mannheim-DEL
Seider moved very quickly in the past month or two, and I think he’ll go top 15 following his World Championship showing. Florida also would want to pick a defenseman to add to a very forward-heavy farm system.

Arizona: Vasili Podkolzin, RW, SKA-VHL
This is probably toward the lowest range of where I think Podkolzin gets, I could see him anywhere from No. 6 to 14, but I don’t think Arizona would pass up a chance to add a dynamic player like him.

Montreal: Cam York, D, USNTDP-USHL
It’s been mildly expected all season that Montreal would be interested in adding a true top defense prospect if the player fit on talent. I’ve heard the Habs rumored on Ville Heinola and Victor Soderstrom for example. York had an awesome season and end to his season, and would instantly provide high-end puck-moving ability to their organization.

Colorado: Spencer Knight, G, USNTDP-USHL
Colorado, as a team with two first-round picks, seems like a prime candidate to go after Knight since it lacks a goalie of the future in the pipeline. If they get Byram at No. 4 there may be a temptation to add a potential top-six forward, though, in a guy like Newhook, Ryan Suzuki or Philip Tomasino.

Vegas: Alex Newhook, C, Victoria-BCHL
It would have been tempting to slot Ryan Suzuki to Vegas, giving them the pleasure of drafting both brothers. But Newhook seems to have risen ahead of Suzuki, and provides some of the same dynamic playmaking and IQ Vegas values with a more well-rounded game.

Dallas: Victor Soderstrom, D, Brynas-SHL
Dallas would like to add a defenseman in this draft if the fit is there, and I’ve heard them rumored to be high on guys like Soderstrom and York. Dallas has done well finding defenseman outside the first round, but its system could really use a player like Soderstrom.

Ottawa: Ryan Suzuki, C, Barrie-OHL
The center depth in Ottawa is not terrible but not the best, and while the Senators have Logan Brown, Suzuki would instantly increase the amount of skill they have at the position significantly. I think this would be Newhook’s floor, as well.

New York Rangers: Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara-OHL
The Rangers have had a lot of picks lately so the only true pressing “need” is a top-flight defense prospect, but none will be left at this stage. Tomasino is the best player available and would instantly provide a ton of speed and skill to their system. I think they would like Suzuki, as well.

Pittsburgh: Raphael Lavoie, RW, Halifax-QMJHL
The Penguins’ system needs everything, and with a rare first-round pick, they have a chance to add legit NHL talent to their pipeline. Lavoie would add a combination of size, skill and skating they haven’t had in a long time. I could see this as a spot for Thomas Harley, too.

Los Angeles: Thomas Harley, D, Mississauga-OHL
If the Kings get a center at pick No. 5, that would make all five of their first and second-round picks in the past three years centers. That creates a bit of an imbalance in the system and on the big team. Harley is a very good player to get at No. 22 based on talent, and I could see him as a fit for the Kings in terms of what they value.

New York Islanders: Bobby Brink, RW, Sioux City-USHL
The Islanders are never ones to shy away from swinging at skill, and Brink is full of it. He’s a longer-term bet due to needing to clean up his skating, but he, Nils Hoglander or Nicholas Robertson would add a dynamic scoring element that they covet. I think they’d prefer to beef up their center depth, but the draft gets very thin at center at this point of the first round.

Nashville: Nils Hoglander, LW, Rogle-SHL
The Predators’ system is light at the moment and could really use high-end skill, which Hoglander provides in bunches. Ideally, they’d like a top center prospect, but as mentioned before, there’s not many left at this point unless you start discussing low upside types like John Beecher.

Washington: Nicholas Robertson, LW, Peterborough-OHL
The Caps have gone heavy on defensemen and goalies at the draft of late and could really use some scoring in their system. Robertson, Hoglander or Brink around this slot would make a ton of sense.

Calgary: Jakob Pelletier, LW, Moncton-QMJHL
While the Flames used their 2018 draft to pick all forwards, their system could still use a bit more scoring depth, and Pelletier nearly scored 40 this season. I could see Egor Afanasyev as a pick here too.

Tampa Bay: Lassi Thomson, D, Kelowna-WHL
The Bolts haven’t used a high pick on a true puck-moving defenseman in quite a few years. I could see Thomson, Ryan Johnson or Heinola fitting the bill. Thomson would provide a lot of what they value in terms of skating, skill and hockey sense.

Carolina: Patrik Puistola, LW, Taapara-Liiga
Tom Dundon announced to the world the Canes are going forward and I don’t expect he’s a man who is saying that to play three-dimensional chess. If the Canes want skill, Puistola is the most skilled player left at this point.

Anaheim: Ryan Johnson, D, Sioux Falls-USHL
Johnson really came on in the last month or so of the season, and some NHL folks think this is a low slotting for him in the first round. The Ducks love mobile puck-moving defensemen, and Johnnson or Thomson would be a fit at this slot for an organization that’s lost a few of this type of player in recent years.

Buffalo: Ville Heinola, D, Luukko-Liiga
This is likely way too low a slotting for Heinola based on industry buzz, as he is seen as more of a consensus top 20 than top 30, but sometimes the draft plays out that way. The Sabres don’t have many defensemen in the system who play the way Heinola does with his high-end vision and ability to transition the offense.

Boston: Alex Vlasic, D, USNTDP-USHL
Boston typically likes players with high-end athletic tools, and Vlasic is that in bunches as a 6-foot-6 defenseman who is an off the charts good skater for a man his size and whose stock trended up in the second half of the season.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 9:36 AM ET
[quote=jimbro83]Pronman:



New York Rangers: Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara-OHL
The Rangers have had a lot of picks lately so the only true pressing “need” is a top-flight defense prospect, but none will be left at this stage. Tomasino is the best player available and would instantly provide a ton of speed and skill to their system. I think they would like Suzuki, as well.

I find that text interesting. I'm guessing Pronman isn't high on Andre and Nils?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
[quote=jimbro83]Pronman:



New York Rangers: Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara-OHL
The Rangers have had a lot of picks lately so the only true pressing “need” is a top-flight defense prospect, but none will be left at this stage. Tomasino is the best player available and would instantly provide a ton of speed and skill to their system. I think they would like Suzuki, as well.

I find that text interesting. I'm guessing Pronman isn't high on Andre and Nils?

- 2sticks1puck


I dont know if I could deal if we took a guy named "Lassi"
jimbro83
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:54 AM ET
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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A week later than perhaps I expected, but it sounds like the Jeff Skinner contract negotiations are down to crunch time. My sense is he’ll either get a deal done in the next day or two or head off to UFA. If it gets done, I’d presume it to be 8 years at around $9M AAV.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 10:04 AM ET
[quote=jimbro83]Pronman:



New York Rangers: Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara-OHL
The Rangers have had a lot of picks lately so the only true pressing “need” is a top-flight defense prospect, but none will be left at this stage. Tomasino is the best player available and would instantly provide a ton of speed and skill to their system. I think they would like Suzuki, as well.

I find that text interesting. I'm guessing Pronman isn't high on Andre and Nils?

- 2sticks1puck

I would really like if they got either Tomasino or Newhook.

Tomasino is 17, plays the game downhill, has decent size. Reminds me a lot of Chytil actually. Would love to have another Chytil
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
I would really like if they got either Tomasino or Newhook.

Tomasino is 17, plays the game downhill, has decent size. Reminds me a lot of Chytil actually. Would love to have another Chytil

- Bean_Dip


if Newhook fell that low they should grab him in about 2 seconds
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
I would really like if they got either Tomasino or Newhook.

Tomasino is 17, plays the game downhill, has decent size. Reminds me a lot of Chytil actually. Would love to have another Chytil

- Bean_Dip

Tomasino is going to make some GM around 20ish look real smart
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
[quote=jimbro83]Pronman:



New York Rangers: Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara-OHL
The Rangers have had a lot of picks lately so the only true pressing “need” is a top-flight defense prospect, but none will be left at this stage. Tomasino is the best player available and would instantly provide a ton of speed and skill to their system. I think they would like Suzuki, as well.

I find that text interesting. I'm guessing Pronman isn't high on Andre and Nils?

- 2sticks1puck

Judging off prior stuff of his I read, he's pretty "meh" on Lundqvist and he likes Miller's skill set a lot but thinks he's very raw and is going to need some time to see how things pan out.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
I dont know if I could deal if we took a guy named "Lassi"
- jimbro83

Seider. He seems like someone the Rangers would trade up for
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
if Newhook fell that low they should grab him in about 2 seconds
- jimbro83


Same here.
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