Yes but culture
- washedup20

and cap space! For Skinner! And other stuff! Trade everyone, I want 82M in cap space. I want to be swimming in cap space forever

If Skinner doesn't sign:

He turned ROR, Kane, Lehner, a 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and Pu

Into

Sobotka, Thompson, Montour, 30/31OA and a 2021 2nd

That's gotta be worth getting fired over
- jcragcrumple

not sure lehner should be part of this.. he sucked and was broken.. no way we were going to get anything for him and he needed to move on..

not sure lehner should be part of this.. he sucked and was broken.. no way we were going to get anything for him and he needed to move on..
- SabresFaninIndiana

market was clearly tough for all 3 guys. So be it.

If Skinner doesn't sign:

He turned ROR, Kane, Lehner, a 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and Pu

Into

Sobotka, Thompson, Montour, 30/31OA and a 2021 2nd

That's gotta be worth getting fired over
- jcragcrumple

YOU FORGOT DANNY O'REAGAN!!!

and a 2020 4th as well actually.

Is the Skinner signing imminent?

Supersecretinsider

Ridiculous agenda again today.

They are not firing jbotts

Then you would complain about turn over in management
- Boss34

"We are going into our 4th GM in the Pegula era!! We are the laughing stock of the NHL. We have non-hockey people making these decisions and it's terrible!!"


I can see the headlines now.

Ridiculous agenda again today.

They are not firing jbotts

Then you would complain about turn over in management
- Boss34

He'll get another year, I agree. Unless they're out of the playoffs before December. Then I bet Krueger becomes interim GM

not sure lehner should be part of this.. he sucked and was broken.. no way we were going to get anything for him and he needed to move on..
- SabresFaninIndiana

The point is he needs a win. Scandella/Pommer trade? Meh. Sheary/Hunwick? Meh. Kane? Meh. ROR? Hard loss. Montour? Maybe. Skinner TBD.

and cap space! For Skinner! And other stuff! Trade everyone, I want 82M in cap space. I want to be swimming in cap space forever
- TheSabresTaco

If he is such an elite player why didn’t half the league lineup to trade for him this past offseason and we got him for spare parts ? Sure his NMC factored in, but the lack of demand for his services shows his league wide perception.

If we give him 8 years we will regret the last 4. Those last 4 years will be in Eichel and Dahlin’s primes. Nobody likes to think of the future, but it eventually becomes the present.

If Skinner doesn't sign:

He turned ROR, Kane, Lehner, a 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and Pu

Into

Sobotka, Thompson, Montour, 30/31OA and a 2021 2nd

That's gotta be worth getting fired over
- jcragcrumple

How are you pinning Lehner and Kane on him? Lehner was mess and he took the best offer he could for Kane. Also, I think it is a safe bet that he was told to move ROR and he may have had to take the best offer he had.

If he is such an elite player why didn’t half the league lineup to trade for him this past offseason and we got him for spare parts ? Sure his NMC factored in, but the lack of demand for his services shows his league wide perception.

If we give him 8 years we will regret the last 4. Those last 4 years will be in Eichel and Dahlin’s primes. Nobody likes to think of the future, but it eventually becomes the present.
- Pegullaville

They will probably want to get out from under it after Year 5 or 6. The guy is one of the better 5-on-5 scoring wingers in the league, and I doubt that changes much. The idea is to win a Championship before then. Obviously, they have a lot of work to do to get to that point, but that is what they should be building towards.

How are you pinning Lehner and Kane on him? Lehner was mess and he took the best offer he could for Kane. Also, I think it is a safe bet that he was told to move ROR and he may have had to take the best offer he had.
- Slump Buster

I'm not pinning anything on him. He needs a win, that's it. He has two top tank picks and Montour to show for his time here so far. I'm confident that Skinner gets signed, and that'll be a win for him. If he doesn't sign, it's another mark in the loss column. I don't see how that's a controversial thing to say

What's Reinhart's record vs. Other #2 picks?

Same as John Jack, but alot less points and skill

" other superstars" also implies John Jack is a superstar.
I have Samson as a good nhl player.


Superstar
Star
Great
Good
Fair
Scandella
- Boss34

I think a 65 pt player should be higher than the middle rung. On your scale he's great, bordering star. It's either that or 80% of the league is Scandella level.

If he is such an elite player why didn’t half the league lineup to trade for him this past offseason and we got him for spare parts ? Sure his NMC factored in, but the lack of demand for his services shows his league wide perception.

If we give him 8 years we will regret the last 4. Those last 4 years will be in Eichel and Dahlin’s primes. Nobody likes to think of the future, but it eventually becomes the present.
- Pegullaville

Reportedly, Skinner blocked trades to STL, OTT, MON, and LAK At that time other teams who had interest like PIT, FLA, BOS, VAN, and NSH cooled off on offering for him.

I'm not pinning anything on him. He needs a win, that's it. He has two top tank picks and Montour to show for his time here so far. I'm confident that Skinner gets signed, and that'll be a win for him. If he doesn't sign, it's another mark in the loss column. I don't see how that's a controversial thing to say
- jcragcrumple

If Skinner doesn't sign it will be because he either didn't want to be here or wanted a ridiculous amount of money. Botts can't change either. We gave up pennies on the dollar to get him - even in hindsight it was a good trade.

I don't disagree that he couldn't have done more.

How are you pinning Lehner and Kane on him? Lehner was mess and he took the best offer he could for Kane. Also, I think it is a safe bet that he was told to move ROR and he may have had to take the best offer he had.
- Slump Buster

Because it is the easiest thing to do when trying to blame someone they don't like. Pin dumb stuff on them.


I BLAME BOTTS FOR THE GAME PRESENTATION AND GOAL SONG CHOICE!

I like everything Krueger says. He doesn't say too much and he don't talk garbage like Rex did. He also worked in "the process". It may not translate into wins but he feels like a leader of men.

He'll get another year, I agree. Unless they're out of the playoffs before December. Then I bet Krueger becomes interim GM
- jcragcrumple

Good post

Although these past 2 years were by design and in conjunction with the pegulas vision of building threw high draft picks.

If Skinner doesn't sign it will be because he either didn't want to be here or wanted a ridiculous amount of money. Botts can't change either. We gave up pennies on the dollar to get him - even in hindsight it was a good trade.

I don't disagree that he couldn't have done more.
- Slump Buster

This poop needs to stop. We can’t have it both ways.

We can’t say we need second and third round picks to build depth in one scenario and then in the next say that they are pennies on the dollar.

If Skinner does not get signed it was a waste of assets to acquire a guy who played one meaningless season here.

The same argument used for Kane and ROR.

This poop needs to stop. We can’t have it both ways.

We can’t say we need second and third round picks to build depth in one scenario and then in the next say that they are pennies on the dollar.

If Skinner does not get signed it was a waste of assets to acquire a guy who played one meaningless season here.

The same argument used for Kane and ROR.
- ImThatGuy

Second and third round picks are lottery tickets. Nothing more, nothing less. We spent a lottery ticket on the chance of hitting a home run (I still think we get it done). You're assuming that the 2nd and 3rd would be real players - how do you know? You don't. I like risking a 2nd on getting a star as compared to getting a 17 year old who doesn't yet shave.

I don't know how you can compare that to ROR and Kane.

This poop needs to stop. We can’t have it both ways.

We can’t say we need second and third round picks to build depth in one scenario and then in the next say that they are pennies on the dollar.

If Skinner does not get signed it was a waste of assets to acquire a guy who played one meaningless season here.

The same argument used for Kane and ROR.
- ImThatGuy

Well.... we have had like 3 2nds, 3 3rds, and 4 4ths in the last 2 years so using excess to acquire a player of that talent in hopes of resigning is perfectly fine with me. But in those picks that we are keeping we need to actually HIT on some of those picks.

Not to slice hairs but when we have a surplus it's a different scenario

Matthew Bové
@Matt_Bove
· 16m
“I work on the basis that Jeff Skinner is a Buffalo Sabre” - Ralph Krueger @WKBW #Sabres


That's pretty bold to say in an introductory press conference unless you have been told that the front office is quite confident the deal will get done.

Matthew Bové
@Matt_Bove
· 16m
“I work on the basis that Jeff Skinner is a Buffalo Sabre” - Ralph Krueger @WKBW #Sabres


That's pretty bold to say in an introductory press conference unless you have been told that the front office is quite confident the deal will get done.
- JVince11

Insert "Babcock" for "Skinner"

(but seriously - I think you're right)

MOAR

Jon Scott
@JonScottTV
·
10m
Ralph Krueger says he’s confident Jeff Skinner will be back with #Sabres bc of tone of their conversation and how Skinner talked about the future. Krueger adds Skinner never changed path of convo even when opportunity presented itself.

Bill Hoppe
@BillHoppeNHL
·
2m
Jason Botterill said he’s confident a deal with Jeff Skinner can get done. #Sabres


Ted Goldberg
@TedGoldbergTV
·
12m
“Discussions continue to go very well...Both sides want a deal done.” Botterill says Jeff Skinner hasn’t signed yet, but sides are close #Sabres #NHL