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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:23 AM ET
I'm really trying to figure out why Philly even traded for Kevin Hayes.

That really doesn't show they have much confidence in former #2 overall pick Nolan Patrick. Who has had 2 very Mitts-esque seasons to start his career.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'm really trying to figure out why Philly even traded for Kevin Hayes.

That really doesn't show they have much confidence in former #2 overall pick Nolan Patrick. Who has had 2 very Mitts-esque seasons to start his career.

- JVince11



I think Patrick ends up like Reinhart

Drafted as a C but ends up playing wing

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
If Byram is there, idk how u pass him up?
Building a top4 with him & Dahlin each on a pair would give us a big advantage over just about anyone
And being that they’re both LH,
it would free us up to use some of McCabe, Samuelsson & Pilut as trade bait to bring in forwards
And late in games if we are down 1 (& the pp),
we could have Dahlin shift to the Right Side & that combo would be deadly

- jdfitz77


Good feedback
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
I have been getting lost in the CapFriendly Armchair GM...

There are a lot of insane Sabres fans in there

- Stripes77

Fixed
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
No thanks
And there’s no way he’d come here anyways

- jdfitz77


Oh I know... I'm not having that one either.

People are starting to really dig the barrel for a potential short term 2C.

Stepan is another commonly named one. I've seen people mention Okposo and like a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Stepan. Similar cap hits but KO is for 5 years as opposed to 2 years.

I think I've seen us giving up like Evan or Pekar in those scenarios as well.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
Yea that one doesn't take an insider to piece together but July 1st is the day. So maybe he knows that there is a deadline that Buffalo has set for Skinner to accept or not. Also, the 9M AAV is a little higher than most had reported. Maybe they upped it to a "final offer" in the last 24 hours.
- JVince11


Insiders .. just heard he’ll be done in 24 hours or 2 days
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
I think Patrick ends up like Reinhart

Drafted as a C but ends up playing wing

- Stripes77


Nico has been pretty dang underwhelming in 2 years as well IMO.

Heiskanen and Pettersson are the steals of that draft.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:29 AM ET

Good feedback

- IonSabres


I agree with others that he won’t be there for us though
I’d be shocked
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 10:29 AM ET
He’d be a nice fit imo if he’d come here
Can bridge the gap for Mitts
And plays a 2way game, so we wouldn’t have to play our 4C (Larsson) 15min a night bc none of our other centers are any good (yet) in our own end- or at least not good enough where u want them taking on those responsibilities

- jdfitz77



In your opinion, What would it take to get him.
What would you be willing to give up?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
I'm really trying to figure out why Philly even traded for Kevin Hayes.

That really doesn't show they have much confidence in former #2 overall pick Nolan Patrick. Who has had 2 very Mitts-esque seasons to start his career.

- JVince11


Hayes is honestly a good 3C ..... you do not want him at 2C. He’s slow and not even very good. Plus watch him get paid 6 mill a year. That’s a huge mistake
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Nico has been pretty dang underwhelming in 2 years as well IMO.

Heiskanen and Pettersson are the steals of that draft.

- JVince11



I think it really goes to show how tough the NHL really is

I would be opposed to raising the draft age to 19 or even 20 like they've discussed.

It would make junior hockey a lot more fun as well
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Simmonds Looked toast in Nashville and Philadelphia

He had 1 goal in Nashville and I think it was an open net
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Insiders .. just heard he’ll be done in 24 hours or 2 days
- gerbe75pts


Super secret source? 😂😂
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think it really goes to show how tough the NHL really is

I would be opposed to raising the draft age to 19 or even 20 like they've discussed.

It would make junior hockey a lot more fun as well

- Stripes77


Just something about throwing 18/19 year old kids straight into the NHL too.

Maybe it doesn't even have to be raising the draft age but instead they have to spend at least 1 year in developmental AHL or something.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
Oh I know... I'm not having that one either.

People are starting to really dig the barrel for a potential short term 2C.

Stepan is another commonly named one. I've seen people mention Okposo and like a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Stepan. Similar cap hits but KO is for 5 years as opposed to 2 years.

I think I've seen us giving up like Evan or Pekar in those scenarios as well.

- JVince11


Not a big Stephan guy either
But if other (better) options don’t come through,
he could be “ok” for 2 years

I just wouldn’t expect much

And he’d have to come cheap, or they’d have to take Okposo like u suggest
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
Simmonds Looked toast in Nashville and Philadelphia

He had 1 goal in Nashville and I think it was an open net

- gerbe75pts

Yes
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
Simmonds Looked toast in Nashville and Philadelphia

He had 1 goal in Nashville and I think it was an open net

- gerbe75pts


Agree.

I'd put him below Vanek for guys I'd offer a 1/2 year deal for no more than 2-2.5M. Could be nothing more than trade bait at the deadline.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
In your opinion, What would it take to get him.
What would you be willing to give up?

- IonSabres


For Staal?

I’m sure a deal could be worked out
I just don’t think he’d come here,
and i don’t think Minny will trade him now
Maybe next offseason (his last in his current contract) if they disappoint again

Something like Tage/Nylander + would be what i think they’d be looking for

But again,
much more likely next offseason than this imo
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 6 @ 10:37 AM ET
I think it really goes to show how tough the NHL really is

I would be opposed to raising the draft age to 19 or even 20 like they've discussed.

It would make junior hockey a lot more fun as well

- Stripes77


I think everyone would. The problem is, logistically, how do you do that?

Do you skip a draft?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Simmonds Looked toast in Nashville and Philadelphia

He had 1 goal in Nashville and I think it was an open net

- gerbe75pts


Agree
As much as I’ve loved his play over the years,
hard pass NOW

He’s gotta want to go to a Cup team anyways at this point
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yes
- jochfr


The guys over 30 that i'd even consider an offer for is prettttttttty dang short. Pavelski, Vanek, Pommer, Maroon, & Boyle.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think everyone would. The problem is, logistically, how do you do that?

Do you skip a draft?

- jcragcrumple


Gonna have guys pulling Auston Matthews a lot more and playing pro hockey in Europe or KHL even for a year or two.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
Gonna have guys pulling Auston Matthews a lot more and playing pro hockey in Europe or KHL even for a year or two.
- JVince11


But I'm saying if you wanted to raise the draft age to 19, no one would be draft eligible this year. The NHL would have to not have a draft this year
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
For Staal?

I’m sure a deal could be worked out
I just don’t think he’d come here,
and i don’t think Minny will trade him now
Maybe next offseason (his last in his current contract) if they disappoint again

Something like Tage/Nylander + would be what i think they’d be looking for

But again,
much more likely next offseason than this imo

- jdfitz77



Interesting.
I had a email exchange with the Mock GM for Minny,
I was exploring moving up into 10-15 range to try to grab Soderstrom, D Sweden

We don't think there is a fit as they are looking for talented F's ... which we are too.

He did offer up Staal ... but no mention of the cost, yet.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
Did Skinner sign yet? Are we good yet? Do we want to fire Freddy yet? Am I doing this right?

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