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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 9:05 AM ET
Assuming the following, who do you want the Sabres to take at 7OA? And why him? ( or is that too presumptuous)

Taken already
-Hughes
-Kakko
-Turcotte

Available
-Boldy
-Byram
-Caufield
-Cozens
-Dach
-Zegras

- IonSabres

I think it comes down to cozens, dach and boldy

2 will be there

zegras and byram will be gone with the big 3 for sure
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 9:06 AM ET
Why is it limited to only Duchene?

There are other options. Trades, for instance. No one knows who Botts likes in the trade market. There are dozens of possibilities, so why keep limiting it to just Duchene? Is there a cheaper, comparably skilled center to be had in the trade market? I bet there is.

- Powerslave

thanks to murray the assets are thin to make a big trade
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:08 AM ET
6/6/2019 #1
- Der Kaiser


I know right.
It is so annoying to discuss the Draft that is 2 weeks away, for a 26th place team that has the 7OA pick in a stacked draft year.

Hey, I know, let's talk about salads
RME's
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:11 AM ET
thanks to murray the assets are thin to make a big trade
- homiedclown


Agreed, but I think you can fill out the rest of your roster with a couple kids and a couple FA's. The center is your priority, so come hell or high water, he needs to make it happen.

I think any combo of Risto, 30/31 OA ++ can accomplish your goal.

Just saying, Duchene can't be our only option.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:11 AM ET
Why is it limited to only Duchene?

There are other options. Trades, for instance. No one knows who Botts likes in the trade market. There are dozens of possibilities, so why keep limiting it to just Duchene? Is there a cheaper, comparably skilled center to be had in the trade market? I bet there is.

- Powerslave


This is worth discussing further.

Let's ask the kraut if it is ok to do so on a hockey opinion discussion board.
Maybe he wants to talk about ground cover for his walkway instead.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:12 AM ET
I know right.
It is so annoying to discuss the Draft that is 2 weeks away, for a 26th place team that has the 7OA pick in a stacked draft year.

Hey, I know, let's talk about salads
RME's

- IonSabres



Columbia Restaurant's 1905 Salad.

https://www.geniuskitchen...riginal-1905-salad-348635
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:12 AM ET
Yerdon-

"..First off, some fans have expressed frustration on Twitter about Krueger saying they need to get “grit” and “bite” into the group and how that doesn’t jibe with analytics and modern hockey. But really, the physicality element Krueger was referring to has been missing from the Sabres for quite a while. We’re not talking about throwing John Scott or Rob Ray out there to rough people up for six minutes of ice time per game; that’s not what the NHL is anymore. But a physical player that can possess the puck and generate scoring chances is definitely the type the Sabres should be in the market for.

The tough part is finding the right person to fill that role. Kicking the tires in free agency for someone like Wayne Simmonds or Brian Boyle might be worthwhile. Even a year of Ryan Callahan, in a trade that brings other help, wouldn’t be so bad."

I know some passionately despise the idea of bringing Cally here, but he still offers a lot of defensive play and leadership. He offers a hell of a lot more than Sobotka, and both of their contracts are up at the same time. He still has some milage left, and would be a very good fourth liner with the kind of grit this team sorely lacks. Simmonds, similar deal.

You can't like Simmonds and hate Cally. Especially with the team friendly term Cally holds. I honestly believe these two players are likely targets for this team, especially after declaring that we are looking for players like these two.

TheSabresTaco
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Jun 6 @ 9:13 AM ET
This is worth discussing further.

Let's ask the kraut if it is ok to do so on a hockey opinion discussion board.
Maybe he wants to talk about ground cover for his walkway instead.

- IonSabres


A nice lawn is a happy lawn
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:14 AM ET
I think it comes down to cozens, dach and boldy

2 will be there

zegras and byram will be gone with the big 3 for sure

- homiedclown


Jack, Kak, Byram, Turcotte, Cozens, Dach..

Leaves us Caufield, Zegras and Boldy.

Calling my shot.
IonSabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:14 AM ET
I think it comes down to cozens, dach and boldy

2 will be there

zegras and byram will be gone with the big 3 for sure

- homiedclown



Zegras seems to be moving up a bit, so entirely possible.
I agree Byram is a goner
I continue to see one of Cozens and Dach selected in 4or 5 slot.
Boldy generally after 7
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yerdon-

"..First off, some fans have expressed frustration on Twitter about Krueger saying they need to get “grit” and “bite” into the group and how that doesn’t jibe with analytics and modern hockey. But really, the physicality element Krueger was referring to has been missing from the Sabres for quite a while. We’re not talking about throwing John Scott or Rob Ray out there to rough people up for six minutes of ice time per game; that’s not what the NHL is anymore. But a physical player that can possess the puck and generate scoring chances is definitely the type the Sabres should be in the market for.

The tough part is finding the right person to fill that role. Kicking the tires in free agency for someone like Wayne Simmonds or Brian Boyle might be worthwhile. Even a year of Ryan Callahan, in a trade that brings other help, wouldn’t be so bad."

I know some passionately despise the idea of bringing Cally here, but he still offers a lot of defensive play and leadership. He offers a hell of a lot more than Sobotka, and both of their contracts are up at the same time. He still has some milage left, and would be a very good fourth liner with the kind of grit this team sorely lacks. Simmonds, similar deal.

You can't like Simmonds and hate Cally. Especially with the team friendly term Cally holds. I honestly believe these two players are likely targets for this team, especially after declaring that we are looking for players like these two.

- TheSabresTaco


Return of the Glue?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:16 AM ET
This is worth discussing further.

Let's ask the kraut if it is ok to do so on a hockey opinion discussion board.
Maybe he wants to talk about ground cover for his walkway instead.

- IonSabres


This might be informative for you.

http://4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/19
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:16 AM ET
Yerdon-

"..First off, some fans have expressed frustration on Twitter about Krueger saying they need to get “grit” and “bite” into the group and how that doesn’t jibe with analytics and modern hockey. But really, the physicality element Krueger was referring to has been missing from the Sabres for quite a while. We’re not talking about throwing John Scott or Rob Ray out there to rough people up for six minutes of ice time per game; that’s not what the NHL is anymore. But a physical player that can possess the puck and generate scoring chances is definitely the type the Sabres should be in the market for.

The tough part is finding the right person to fill that role. Kicking the tires in free agency for someone like Wayne Simmonds or Brian Boyle might be worthwhile. Even a year of Ryan Callahan, in a trade that brings other help, wouldn’t be so bad."

I know some passionately despise the idea of bringing Cally here, but he still offers a lot of defensive play and leadership. He offers a hell of a lot more than Sobotka, and both of their contracts are up at the same time. He still has some milage left, and would be a very good fourth liner with the kind of grit this team sorely lacks. Simmonds, similar deal.

You can't like Simmonds and hate Cally. Especially with the team friendly term Cally holds. I honestly believe these two players are likely targets for this team, especially after declaring that we are looking for players like these two.

- TheSabresTaco



I like Simmonds, and he can without a doubt fill a huge hole here.
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 6 @ 9:18 AM ET
Return of the Glue?
- buffalofan19


The whole god damn factory my man.
jcragcrumple
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Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 6 @ 9:20 AM ET
skinner-eichel-nylander
olofsson-duchene-reinhart
vanek-casey-brett connolly
sheary-e-rod-someone

- homiedclown


Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-dzingel-Cirelli
Asplund-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan

Pick 2: Larry, curly, Moe or shemp to be extras


Dahlin-Trouba
McCabe-Montour
Pilut-Bogo
Nelson

Out: Risto for Cirelli + Callahan, 7 for Trouba, Dzingel in FA, Scandella to whoever for whatever

Also trade Nylander for puljuuujarvvvii
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:23 AM ET
I watched the press conference yesterday I know I am late to the party

But a few things that I really liked:

He never wants to stop learning which is nice to hear

He is a firm believer in communication something I think both Disco Dan and Phyllis both were terrible at

He understands the importance of analytics but also understands that the players have to buy in and do the work (this is where he mentioned grit and in context it was a perfect tie together)

Also afterwords when they were talking to Botts and he was asked about Skinner I think they get this done today or maybe tomorrow.

They are stupid close and I can sense it
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
skinner-eichel-nylander
olofsson-duchene-reinhart
vanek-casey-brett connolly
sheary-e-rod-someone

- homiedclown


I'd honestly feel better about CJ Smith instead of Nylander at this point. That top line would score some goals but they need at least 1 winger to have a defensive side to their game.


Do love the Brett Connolly signing there though. Still not sold on Duchene, especially at 8+M if we sign Skinner for 8.5M. Marcus Jo is my piece there... has been GREAT for the Bruins in this playoff run and can play LW/C/RW.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-dzingel-Cirelli
Asplund-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan

Pick 2: Larry, curly, Moe or shemp to be extras


Dahlin-Trouba
McCabe-Montour
Pilut-Bogo
Nelson

Out: Risto for Cirelli + Callahan, 7 for Trouba, Dzingel in FA, Scandella to whoever for whatever

Also trade Nylander for puljuuujarvvvii

- jcragcrumple



Not terrible but your bottom pairing is out until Mid-November
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
This is worth discussing further.

Let's ask the kraut if it is ok to do so on a hockey opinion discussion board.
Maybe he wants to talk about ground cover for his walkway instead.

- IonSabres

malkin
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-dzingel-Cirelli
Asplund-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan

Also trade Nylander for puljuuujarvvvii

- jcragcrumple


Dzingel is a LW. I don't think I've ever seen him play Center in my life. Is this a Leino move?

EDIT: I see he is actually listed as LW/C/RW. HM.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
I'd honestly feel better about CJ Smith instead of Nylander at this point. That top line would score some goals but they need at least 1 winger to have a defensive side to their game.


Do love the Brett Connolly signing there though. Still not sold on Duchene, especially at 8+M if we sign Skinner for 8.5M. Marcus Jo is my piece there... has been GREAT for the Bruins in this playoff run and can play LW/C/RW.

- JVince11



Depending on price tag I am all about this

He can be a top 6 winger if needed but he is a good depth player that actually can contribute. I am just worried about the July 1st price tag
JVince11
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Jun 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
malkin
- homiedclown



I saw the new Godzilla: King of the Monsters last night..... man... that movie F*CKS!!! I found myself almost trying to do the Godzilla battle cry sitting in my seat.

They already announced Godzilla vs Kong in May 2020 too.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
Dzingel is a LW. I don't think I've ever seen him play Center in my life. Is this a Leino move?
- JVince11


I thought so as well, but both NHL.com and hockey reference have him listed at center. I'd take him either way and put Cirelli in at center and Dzingel at wing
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
Depending on price tag I am all about this

He can be a top 6 winger if needed but he is a good depth player that actually can contribute. I am just worried about the July 1st price tag

- Stripes77

he is cashing in at the right time

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:28 AM ET
Yerdon-

"..First off, some fans have expressed frustration on Twitter about Krueger saying they need to get “grit” and “bite” into the group and how that doesn’t jibe with analytics and modern hockey. But really, the physicality element Krueger was referring to has been missing from the Sabres for quite a while. We’re not talking about throwing John Scott or Rob Ray out there to rough people up for six minutes of ice time per game; that’s not what the NHL is anymore. But a physical player that can possess the puck and generate scoring chances is definitely the type the Sabres should be in the market for.

The tough part is finding the right person to fill that role. Kicking the tires in free agency for someone like Wayne Simmonds or Brian Boyle might be worthwhile. Even a year of Ryan Callahan, in a trade that brings other help, wouldn’t be so bad."

I know some passionately despise the idea of bringing Cally here, but he still offers a lot of defensive play and leadership. He offers a hell of a lot more than Sobotka, and both of their contracts are up at the same time. He still has some milage left, and would be a very good fourth liner with the kind of grit this team sorely lacks. Simmonds, similar deal.

You can't like Simmonds and hate Cally. Especially with the team friendly term Cally holds. I honestly believe these two players are likely targets for this team, especially after declaring that we are looking for players like these two.

- TheSabresTaco


Aren't these different scenarios though?

I wouldn't make Callahan the focal point of any trade, rather only as a Cap dump to secure another useful, young player. I agree with the positive attributes you listed for having him on the team and his fit for adding for grit.

Simmonds would, I assume be for longer term. At 30, I'd be very leery of anything over 2 - 3 years
With Cap in line with that of a 3rd or 4th liner

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