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Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jun 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
Just to note about the aging core - we need only look to the Bruins to see quality older players can still carry a team to success but only if the team around them is built properly. There are enough similarities between the Hawks-Bruins that we could look to them for ways the Hawks could succeed sooner rather than later.

Bruins' original core is actually older than the Hawks; Kane is better offensively than any of their core; Toews had a resurgent year that is on par with Bergeron so we have to hope that continues; and Keith is at least as good as 40+ Chara (I will fight people on this). The Bruins even have a bad contract with Backes like the Hawks do with Seabrook and an aging goalie but who is still great. Bruins missed the playoffs two seasons sandwiched by 1 and then 2 years of early exits from the post-season, so like the Hawks currently, they went through some trying years.

So, what did the Bruins do to be successful? They built around their core primarily through young players they developed themselves (forward and defense), key minor role position adds (off seasons and TDL), and they have a great 1-3 offensive line + checking line that seems to be the most successful line roll-out in recent years.

The Hawks have been going the rebuild on the fly method for a few years now, so it's good to have examples of it working out for a team. The Pens and Caps also did this in some regard, just less missing playoffs and more 1st/2nd round exits. Not a lock, but possible.

- L_B_R




The Bruins have a younger , bigger , faster more mobile team including their defense.
Also tuka Rask, hasn't been injured unlike crawford who has suffered 2 concussions.


Keith and Seabrook are both well past their hay days and neither should be playing in a top 4 role .


Kane and toews should not be paired together because it limits Chicago's offense.


Also Boston has had years to rebuild their team, Chicago rebuild basically started last year and your 2 core players are both turning 31 years old.


I'm sorry but Boston has a example is just bad example.


You could compare Pittsburgh to chicago . Both teams have aging players , bad contracts and lots of needs.


We can both disagree , but I'm just being realistic looking at Chicago's overall depth , needs and skill.

Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
poster child for idiots...
- bogiedoc


Drunk idiots you mean.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jun 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
Meatloaf song: two out of three ain t bad. A one hit wonder from early 8o's or thereabouts.

Darth Kane: you can have two out of three: caufield and Caufield. But there is not a third. Two out of three ain t bad

I am asking breadman to pass along a link for that song if you don't recall it. But you can utube it too. It is not a bad song; sort of an unique song.

- jhawk59


"One hit wonder"...you MUST be young!
A one-album wonder, maybe...but a pile of hits off that one album.

"Two outta 3 aint bad"
"Paradise by the Dashboard Lights"
"Bat outta hell"
"You took the words right out of my mouth"

And....also a couple of hits outside that classic album.

Listen to the whole album.....pretty decent stuff!!

Signed,
Old Fart
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 7 @ 9:53 AM ET
"One hit wonder"...you MUST be young!
A one-album wonder, maybe...but a pile of hits off that one album.

"Two outta 3 aint bad"
"Paradise by the Dashboard Lights"
"Bat outta hell"
"You took the words right out of my mouth"

And....also a couple of hits outside that classic album.

Listen to the whole album.....pretty decent stuff!!

Signed,
Old Fart

- hawk35



jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
"One hit wonder"...you MUST be young!
A one-album wonder, maybe...but a pile of hits off that one album.

"Two outta 3 aint bad"
"Paradise by the Dashboard Lights"
"Bat outta hell"
"You took the words right out of my mouth"

And....also a couple of hits outside that classic album.

Listen to the whole album.....pretty decent stuff!!

Signed,
Old Fart

- hawk35


You're right. I remember each song. But only that album
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
The Bruins have a younger , bigger , faster more mobile team including their defense.
Also tuka Rask, hasn't been injured unlike crawford who has suffered 2 concussions.


Keith and Seabrook are both well past their hay days and neither should be playing in a top 4 role .


Kane and toews should not be paired together because it limits Chicago's offense.


Also Boston has had years to rebuild their team, Chicago rebuild basically started last year and your 2 core players are both turning 31 years old.


I'm sorry but Boston has a example is just bad example.


You could compare Pittsburgh to chicago . Both teams have aging players , bad contracts and lots of needs.


We can both disagree , but I'm just being realistic looking at Chicago's overall depth , needs and skill.

- Taylorst1
You're wrong about them being younger just factually. Bruins core are: Bergero 33, Krejci 33, Marchand 31, and Chara 42. The Hawks are: Toews 31, Kane 31, Keith 35, and Seabrook 33. Average age of the Bruins is over a year older than the Hawks.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
The Bruins have a younger , bigger , faster more mobile team including their defense.
Also tuka Rask, hasn't been injured unlike crawford who has suffered 2 concussions.


Keith and Seabrook are both well past their hay days and neither should be playing in a top 4 role .


Kane and toews should not be paired together because it limits Chicago's offense.


Also Boston has had years to rebuild their team, Chicago rebuild basically started last year and your 2 core players are both turning 31 years old.


I'm sorry but Boston has a example is just bad example.


You could compare Pittsburgh to chicago . Both teams have aging players , bad contracts and lots of needs.


We can both disagree , but I'm just being realistic looking at Chicago's overall depth , needs and skill.

- Taylorst1


I would argue that Chicago is 2 seasons into the rebuild.

After the playoff exit vs Nashville, they started reshaping the roster with a longer term view in mind moving Hjalmarsson for two younger players (Murphy and Dauphin) and Panarin/Motte for Saad/Forsberg, and getting contracts that we know give them a bit more of the long term cost certainty.

The shift was happening even with Stan being less aggressive in that 2017 trade deadline, keeping his 1st round pick this time and only picking up Jurco and Oduya.

That summer the message from Bowman was how they plan to build from within and put young players in roles more.



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