Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--F, Daniel O'Regan

"O'Regan is Group-6 free agent meaning he's a player at least 25 yrs. old who has completed three or more professional seasons and played in less than 80 NHL games. He's free to sign with any team."

Interesting. Didn't realize he's a Nelson

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@TSNBobMcKenzie
Yikes no way Hall should make more than Stone.

Oh.... ohhhhhh boy. We have a Sabres account with that @ handle saying dumb things in McKenzie's mentions

"O'Regan is Group-6 free agent meaning he's a player at least 25 yrs. old who has completed three or more professional seasons and played in less than 80 NHL games. He's free to sign with any team."

Interesting. Didn't realize he's a Nelson
- jcragcrumple

"O'Regan is Group-6 free agent meaning he's a player at least 25 yrs. old who has completed three or more professional seasons and played in less than 80 NHL games. He's free to sign with any team."

Interesting. Didn't realize he's a Nelson
- jcragcrumple

But why is he a UFA?

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@TSNBobMcKenzie
Yikes no way Hall should make more than Stone.

Oh.... ohhhhhh boy. We have a Sabres account with that @ handle saying dumb things in McKenzie's mentions
- JVince11

Not me, for the record

Ahler
- gerbe75pts

Yup he can stay in Rochester. I am fine with that.

Ahler
- gerbe75pts

Gerbe.... this dude is now up in my DMs with Analytics charts trying to show me how Stone is leaps and bounds better than Hall. I'm in pain.

So EK says we are signing Skinner to trade him for Hall, next year. Classic.

Gerbe.... this dude is now up in my DMs with Analytics charts trying to show me how Stone is leaps and bounds better than Hall. I'm in pain.
- JVince11

He is, but I think you're the one who still thinks Risto is top pair material so it's a waste of everyones time in that DM exchange

https://twitter.com/TSNBo...tatus/1136629944992391170

Re this, why are they not holding firm at 8.25 or 8.5?

a team in ufa matching that would have to give a stupid high AAV for 7 years. If he's not happy at that number then he's at best lukewarm on the idea of being with the Sabres long term.

Try to keep him. Good depth at a position we're very light at.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1136629944992391170

Re this, why are they not holding firm at 8.25 or 8.5?

a team in ufa matching that would have to give a stupid high AAV for 7 years. If he's not happy at that number then he's at best lukewarm on the idea of being with the Sabres long term.
- Sabresfan-365

Or he and his agent are trying to get the most money possible, as one does

So EK says we are signing Skinner to trade him for Hall, next year. Classic.
- SABRES 89

That's not what he said actually.

He actually said that NJ would be interested in Skinner if he becomes a UFA and Buffalo would be interested in Hall if he becomes a UFA or available via trade. Then ended it with saying there's a chance that Skinner is a Devil and Hall is Sabre next year.

I didn't see a "trade X for Y" thing.

Gerbe.... this dude is now up in my DMs with Analytics charts trying to show me how Stone is leaps and bounds better than Hall. I'm in pain.
- JVince11

Stone is extraordinarily underrated
Great defensively
Will have a lower Cap hit when Hall signs his next deal
A year younger
And has become a legit offensive threat- ppg player over the last 2 seasons

Bc of the defense especially,
it’s probably a lot closer than one would think

He is, but I think you're the one who still thinks Risto is top pair material so it's a waste of everyones time in that DM exchange
- Sabresfan-365

You think Mark Stone is better than Taylor Hall??

You think Mark Stone is better than Taylor Hall??


- JVince11

A lot of people do, and there's a lot of evidence to back that up.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1136629944992391170

Re this, why are they not holding firm at 8.25 or 8.5?

a team in ufa matching that would have to give a stupid high AAV for 7 years. If he's not happy at that number then he's at best lukewarm on the idea of being with the Sabres long term.
- Sabresfan-365

perhaps they came together on term--8 yrs.--and are in that $8-9M range but are trying to figure out how to balance salary, salary-structure, bonus-structure and possible no-move clauses into the deal

Or he and his agent are trying to get the most money possible, as one does
- jcragcrumple

This would be the most money possible.

This would be the most money possible.
- Sabresfan-365

Technically an AAV of $16,600,000 is the most a player can make this year

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1136629944992391170

Re this, why are they not holding firm at 8.25 or 8.5?

a team in ufa matching that would have to give a stupid high AAV for 7 years. If he's not happy at that number then he's at best lukewarm on the idea of being with the Sabres long term.
- Sabresfan-365

He’s not gonna retire after this contract (most likely)

Buffalo- 8x8.5 for 68mil

Somewhere else- 7x9 for 63mil, + whatever he’s making in year 1 of his next deal

The total $$$ is A LOT closer than ppl are acting like it’s gonna end up

perhaps they came together on term--8 yrs.--and are in that $8-9M range but are trying to figure out how to balance salary, bonus-structure and possible no-move clauses into the deal
- Michael Pachla

Im just going off the tweet that says 9 mil

A lot of people do, and there's a lot of evidence to back that up.
- Sabresfan-365

And I have said that Risto is a very good 2nd pairing guy and could play 1st pairing if in the right pairing and game. People dog on him because they think 5.4M AAV is a ton. It's not. He's the 43rd highest paid D man in the league but scores at the 23rd highest for a D man in the NHL. I'm not saying he is only an offensive D man either because he is very punishing and does over 225 hits a year. Does that take him out of position sometimes... absolutely. But it is very easy to sit on your couch and watch a replay and say "Oh that's stupid.. I would have made a better decision than that in my beer league."

Im just going off the tweet that says 9 mil
- Sabresfan-365

yeah...$8-9M has been the call for a while...just pointing out other areas for negotiation in the process