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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:19 PM ET
Sounds like it. Did they think his price would come down? Have to think the Sabres knew they lost a lot of their leverage after deadline day.
- Sabresfan-365

The talks seemed to stop or break off when it was obvious the coach was going to be fired
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:19 PM ET
We couldn’t give the 8th year until after
- sbroads24



But they could've negotiated it up until then and just signed after?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:21 PM ET
Sounds like it. Did they think his price would come down? Have to think the Sabres knew they lost a lot of their leverage after deadline day.
- Sabresfan-365

I doubt it, should have just paid him then, if the 8th year is the issue that's pretty bad IMO.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 6 @ 1:21 PM ET
He could have signed him twice already, waiting is now going to cost him.
- SABRES 89


I don’t get why botts wasted those 2 chances. Not like the price was going to go down.

I don’t get why gms wait till the market is set and teams go off a certain players contract. Skinner should have been signed before stone.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:21 PM ET
The talks seemed to stop or break off when it was obvious the coach was going to be fired
- sbroads24


i think there's more to it than that. They would've been clued into the hiring process, enough to know whether they were hiring a guy skinner hates or not.

Doesn't seem like a legit reason to stall negotiations for months.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:21 PM ET
The talks seemed to stop or break off when it was obvious the coach was going to be fired
- sbroads24

At the time he wasn't going to be fired.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
I don’t get why botts wasted those 2 chances. Not like the price was going to go down.

I don’t get why gms wait till the market is set and teams go off a certain players contract. Skinner should have been signed before stone.

- Sabretooth9

It was the Mark Stone deal that caused an issue.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
He could have signed him twice already, waiting is now going to cost him.
- SABRES 89



Couldn't give him the 8th year


Edit: L8
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
If the Sabres make a fair offer and Skinner still wants to test free agency, does Botts lower his offer when Skinner comes back realizing that he is not getting $9m+ on the open market?
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
If Skinner walks people will come on this blog and bash the Sabres, if we sign him, they will bash the Sabres for giving him to much. I can see it now.
- SABRES 89

This is exactly correct.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
If the Sabres make a fair offer and Skinner still wants to test free agency, does Botts lower his offer when Skinner comes back realizing that he is not getting $9m+ on the open market?
- adambuffalo

He should. As soon as the tampering period starts the offer should go down to 7 years regardless.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
If the Sabres make a fair offer and Skinner still wants to test free agency, does Botts lower his offer when Skinner comes back realizing that he is not getting $9m+ on the open market?
- adambuffalo



Someone will pay him that

It's the extra year that gives the Sabres the upperhand

If he goes to July 1st who knows where he ends up and it wasn't about money it was about having that right to test the market
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
Gerbe.... this dude is now up in my DMs with Analytics charts trying to show me how Stone is leaps and bounds better than Hall. I'm in pain.
- JVince11


Text me it lol
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
He should. As soon as the tampering period starts the offer should go down to 7 years regardless.
- TheHank



Why?

That is the only advantage the Sabres
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
I'm taking a survey.

What kind of salads do you think are best for summer consumption? Mayonnaise based salad, or vinegar based salad? Are the best salads made of vegetables, beans, pasta or fruit?

And in light of your answers to that, rank the following:

COLE SLAW 6
MAC SALAD 2
POTATO SALAD 3
THREE BEAN SALAD 7
FRUIT SALAD 4
AMBROSIA 1 .
SEVEN LAYER SALAD 5
COLUMBIA'S 1905 SALAD. 8
WALDORF SALAD 9
CORN SALAD10

- Der Kaiser



Mine
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:39 PM ET
Words
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
Mayo vs vinegar is no-contest.
Mayo's underlying numbers in fat, calories, smell and texture all are negative; mayo is worse in gags-per-60-minutes, relative sloppiness, grossness suppression, and its french-fry Corsi-for is dismal (unless you're French or weird).
Vinegar is actually good for your body to ingest, has way better possession as a marinade ingredient, unclogs blood vessels (try that, mayo!), is good for your liver and skin, and its fried-food metrics are stellar.

Another argument against mayo: watch Undercover Brother. Right, Pachs?

- LandlordTom



Solid!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
Ambrosia is the Sobotka of salads
- jcragcrumple


Dude take that poop back
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 1:45 PM ET
If the Sabres make a fair offer and Skinner still wants to test free agency, does Botts lower his offer when Skinner comes back realizing that he is not getting $9m+ on the open market?
- adambuffalo

rangers will in a NY minute
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 1:56 PM ET
Wait hold up...

Y’all are now blaming Botts for “not signing him earlier and now have to overpay”

Where in Mickey Mouse lane does anyone get off saying that skinner would have signed earlier or that he wasn’t trying but Skinner postponed because the injury or to see who the new coach was??

It is incredible how ppl here can spin blame to try to make Sabres Front Office staff look inept so fast.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
Wait hold up...

Y’all are now blaming Botts for “not signing him earlier and now have to overpay”

Where in Mickey Mouse lane does anyone get off saying that skinner would have signed earlier or that he wasn’t trying but Skinner postponed because the injury or to see who the new coach was??

It is incredible how ppl here can spin blame to try to make Sabres Front Office staff look inept so fast.

- JVince11


If Skinner doesn't sign here it's probably because while he is at home studying the playbook and saying his prayers before bedtime, his Captain is hitting up another bar for last call.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
Wait hold up...

Y’all are now blaming Botts for “not signing him earlier and now have to overpay”

Where in Mickey Mouse lane does anyone get off saying that skinner would have signed earlier or that he wasn’t trying but Skinner postponed because the injury or to see who the new coach was??

It is incredible how ppl here can spin blame to try to make Sabres Front Office staff look inept so fast.

- JVince11

it's not due to lack of trying from Botts

he has been trying for months to get skinner to sign
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
If Skinner doesn't sign here it's probably because while he is at home studying the playbook and saying his prayers before bedtime, his Captain is hitting up another bar for last call.
- adambuffalo

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
Why?

That is the only advantage the Sabres

- Stripes77


I have heard that after July 1, the Sabres are no longer able to offer 8 years
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
it's not due to lack of trying from Botts

he has been trying for months to get skinner to sign

- homiedclown

As Teddy Nolan would say..."try harder!!!"
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