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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
it alleviates the logjam the Rangers have with young defenseman (one that needs a new contract) gives the backup job to Shestyrokin and moves the Rangers up to a premier pick
- jimbro83

I think you are still missing the change I made.

Your original offer is dog poop.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
I think you are still missing the change I made.

Your original offer is dog poop.

- Feds91Stammer


HA! nice
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
it alleviates the logjam the Rangers have with young defenseman (one that needs a new contract) gives the backup job to Shestyrokin and moves the Rangers up to a premier pick
- jimbro83

The log jam is on the left side though. I don’t mind moving up but not giving up TonyD to do it. Fox is a great prospect but hasn’t played a single NHL game, Shattenkirk is worse than Hamirlik and Rykov is a bit away from the NHL.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
The log jam is on the left side though. I don’t mind moving up but not giving up TonyD to do it. Fox is a great prospect but hasn’t played a single NHL game, Shattenkirk is worse than Hamirlik and Rykov is a bit away from the NHL.
- nyrangers9479


it's pretty amazing the rapid ascent of Tony D in everyone's minds

I'd trade him in the right deal, but I'd just just about anyone in the right deal
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 1:36 PM ET
it's pretty amazing the rapid ascent of Tony D in everyone's minds

I'd trade him in the right deal, but I'd just just about anyone in the right deal

- jimbro83

I’m not saying he’s untouchable, but RHD are probably our our weakest point depth wise. Doesn’t make sense to trade from a weakness to add let’s say Zegras and create even more of log jam. That’s also not to say we shouldn’t try and move up, just maybe with different pieces.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 1:42 PM ET
I’m not saying he’s untouchable, but RHD are probably our our weakest point depth wise. Doesn’t make sense to trade from a weakness to add let’s say Zegras and create even more of log jam. That’s also not to say we shouldn’t try and move up, just maybe with different pieces.
- nyrangers9479


pieces that other team's wont want
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 10 @ 1:55 PM ET
pieces that other team's wont want
- jimbro83

why break the tradition of offering Nam, Strome and Vesey?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 1:59 PM ET
why break the tradition of offering Nam, Strome and Vesey?
- 21peter


Nam, Stinky, Strome and Vesey
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
pieces that other team's wont want
- jimbro83

Buch, Skjei etc. Swap Skjei with TonyD and I would do that deal.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 2:01 PM ET
Buch, Skjei etc. Swap Skjei with TonyD and I would do that deal.
- nyrangers9479


really the only reason I brought up Tony D was because detroit fan brought up Yzerman and Yzerman drafted Tony D, didn't really think more beyond it than that
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
really the only reason I brought up Tony D was because detroit fan brought up Yzerman and Yzerman drafted Tony D, didn't really think more beyond it than that
- jimbro83

Way to go, you created a 2 page argument about trading a player for no reason
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
really the only reason I brought up Tony D was because detroit fan brought up Yzerman and Yzerman drafted Tony D, didn't really think more beyond it than that
- jimbro83

Gotcha.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
Way to go, you created a 2 page argument about trading a player for no reason
- TPC




we need the Colorado pick dammit
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 10 @ 2:08 PM ET


we need the Colorado pick dammit

- jimbro83

Yea this is nuts....28 picks in 11 days. I hope all the GMs have picks ready quick.

Also what if a big trade happens before the draft, Jan is going to need to post about that stuff.

Going to be busy blog season
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 2:21 PM ET
Way to go, you created a 2 page argument about trading a player for no reason
- TPC

Give me more
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 2:55 PM ET
20 58 Buch for 7th and we draft Zegras. You guys doing that?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 3:47 PM ET
20 58 Buch for 7th and we draft Zegras. You guys doing that?
- nyrangers9479


it's tough call, probably, I definitely like Zegras, it really depends on how the draft is going

I've said before, I am going to be calling for the Rangers to trade up the whole goddamn draft
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 10 @ 4:19 PM ET
20 58 Buch for 7th and we draft Zegras. You guys doing that?
- nyrangers9479

I don't hate it, but it does seem like a lot upfront. Think about it, you can still get a really good player at 20, plus Buch, plus a dart throw at 58.

I think it depends on how close you think the this team is. If you think we're in the playoff hunt now, why give up on Buch? If you think we're 3+ years away, you can sustain the lag of getting Zegras.

Maybe instead of 58 I'd try to see if I can cough up something later and then use both seconds to try and sneak back into the first round. But this is a good proposal.

Look at you, learning how these trade proposals work
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
20 58 Buch for 7th and we draft Zegras. You guys doing that?
- nyrangers9479



I would do this , but only if I know for sure we can sign Panarin...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
I would do this , but only if I know for sure we can sign Panarin...
- TommyGTrain


well no chance of that, draft is June 21st and the window to talk to UFA's doesn't start until June 28th

TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 10 @ 5:02 PM ET
well no chance of that, draft is June 21st and the window to talk to UFA's doesn't start until June 28th
- jimbro83



Lets not be naive here. You and I both know that JD spoke to Panarin and his agent at length while still with Columbus and he has to have a STRONG idea what they are thinking, what their $$$ numbers are etc. He can't come out and publicly state this to the press, but he has to KNOW what the Rangers odds are.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 10 @ 5:21 PM ET
well no chance of that, draft is June 21st and the window to talk to UFA's doesn't start until June 28th
- jimbro83

Wouldn’t it behoove the teams to agree with drafting AFTER July 1st? I guess it’s a CBA thing? Probably more likely to see players traded

optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 10 @ 6:00 PM ET
Jan is gone fishing until Tuesday.



Buffalo and Colorado have come to an agreement on a trade pending Commissioner approval.
Buffalo is now on the clock, pick is in by Tuesday morning (ETA)




mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 10 @ 9:26 PM ET
I don't hate it, but it does seem like a lot upfront. Think about it, you can still get a really good player at 20, plus Buch, plus a dart throw at 58.

I think it depends on how close you think the this team is. If you think we're in the playoff hunt now, why give up on Buch? If you think we're 3+ years away, you can sustain the lag of getting Zegras.

Maybe instead of 58 I'd try to see if I can cough up something later and then use both seconds to try and sneak back into the first round. But this is a good proposal.

Look at you, learning how these trade proposals work

- Bean_Dip

IF we sign Panarin losing Buch isn’t that big a deal. If we miss on Panarin Buch is more important. You have to assume one of Chytil/Andersson/Howden get moved to wing. I think Howden is the perfect 3C, Chytil can play on the wing but is Andersson ready to be a 2C? I don’t think so yet but we can start the season with Strome as the 2C and see how things go.
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