Right now my favorite thing about the Skinner contract is the huge overpayment.

Looks at Auston Matthews contract, 11.6 million a year for 73 points. Yes 9 million for 63 is so much worse.
- Mentalorgasm5

Problem is that Skinner had a career year, Auston's point totals will be going up while Jeff is probably at his ceiling.

40g isn't a bad ceiling, but at the end of these contracts Auston will be at the end of his prime, Jeff will be far past it.

Not sure they're the best comparables, but I get what you're saying.

Right now my favorite thing about the Skinner contract is the huge overpayment.

Looks at Auston Matthews contract, 11.6 million a year for 73 points. Yes 9 million for 63 is so much worse.
- Mentalorgasm5

Looking at players contracts and point totals at a glance gives people a story to go on if they don't dig and do more research.

You and I both know this

10 less points for 2.6 million less?

Sold!

But really Matthews will earn his contract easily when it is all said and done (if he can stay healthy)

Skinner needs to score 35-45 goals for at least the next 4 seasons to earn his.

I think $9 million is a little bit of an over payment, but I wouldn't let him walk for $750k per year.

I did a capfriendly roster with both William and Erik Karlsson

The problem is finding someone to take Scandella and Bogo and then long term moving Okposo so you can keep Dahlin and Reinhart

Really it's that Okposo contract that kills this team as Sobotka, Bogo and Scandella all come off the books after next season
- Stripes77

I feel the problem would be Bogo. But at one year I think we could find a taker.

Hab fans seem to want Scandella for a late right pick. I was one of the poster that brought up trading away the other first with Okposo for anything, and I still love that idea.

Not sure if Botts would move a first to do that, or if a team would take it, but I hope its explored.

I look at a team like Ottawa, so much space, and so damn cheap. Could we wait until after July first to move Okposo with our 2020 second? Opkoso would then earn 3 million (3 million bonus paid out), 6 million, 4 million and 4 million while having that 6 million cap hit.

I feel the problem would be Bogo. But at one year I think we could find a taker.

Hab fans seem to want Scandella for a late right pick. I was one of the poster that brought up trading away the other first with Okposo for anything, and I still love that idea.

Not sure if Botts would move a first to do that, or if a team would take it, but I hope its explored.

I look at a team like Ottawa, so much space, and so damn cheap. Could we wait until after July first to move Okposo with our 2020 second? Opkoso would then earn 3 million (3 million bonus paid out), 6 million, 4 million and 4 million while having that 6 million cap hit.
- Mentalorgasm5

His modified NTC hurts the Sabres here

Looking at players contracts and point totals at a glance gives people a story to go on if they don't dig and do more research.

You and I both know this

10 less points for 2.6 million less?

Sold!

But really Matthews will earn his contract easily when it is all said and done (if he can stay healthy)

Skinner needs to score 35-45 goals for at least the next 4 seasons to earn his.

I think $9 million is a little bit of an over payment, but I wouldn't let him walk for $750k per year.
- Stripes77

Matthews hasnt been able to stay heatlthy in two fo the three years.

Pretty much agree about everyhing you say. I personally feel Skinner doesnt have the style of play that breaks apart your body. I could see him scoring 37 plus goals for the next four to five years, followed but 27 to 35 goals over the remaining contract.

I personally am fine with the contract. I knew it was going to be 8 years. Was hoping for 8 and 8, however, it didnt seem likely after his play at the start of the year.

His modified NTC hurts the Sabres here
- Stripes77

It gives us that window though, a window of hope.

It gives us that window though, a window of hope.
- Mentalorgasm5

Has he gotten any better after year 3 or stayed the same ?

If the answer is no then why would he change now
- gerbe75pts

He is still the best dman on the team until Dahlin passes him. One of the only players we have with any toughness. Seems he is the easy target for people to go after, but let's not acknowledge the fact that we traded away our only forward who would help out in the Dzone and the fact that Risto has to constantly overcompensate because others don't know how or don't care to play defense.
I don't recall who posted it, but Risto also had to make the furthest outlet passes out of anyone, because when he did get the puck everyone would just dart (or jart for some of the slower guys) down the ice expecting a 100' pass every time.
Shuts down some of the biggest scorers, ie Ovie, but must not be very good.
So bad that the President Trophy team wanted to trade for him. Hedman and Risto would automatically be the best d pairing in the league.

He is still the best dman on the team until Dahlin passes him. One of the only players we have with any toughness. Seems he is the easy target for people to go after, but let's not acknowledge the fact that we traded away our only forward who would help out in the Dzone and the fact that Risto has to constantly overcompensate because others don't know how or don't care to play defense.
I don't recall who posted it, but Risto also had to make the furthest outlet passes out of anyone, because when he did get the puck everyone would just dart (or jart for some of the slower guys) down the ice expecting a 100' pass every time.
Shuts down some of the biggest scorers, ie Ovie, but must not be very good.
So bad that the President Trophy team wanted to trade for him. Hedman and Risto would automatically be the best d pairing in the league.
- adambuffalo

He did...last year

It's not

Right now my favorite thing about the Skinner contract is the huge overpayment.

Looks at Auston Matthews contract, 11.6 million a year for 73 points. Yes 9 million for 63 is so much worse.
- Mentalorgasm5

This point is horrible. Matthews was hurt for a big portion of the year, would of had more pts.

Matthews will be 27 at the end of his deal, it’s all his prime. Skinner will be in his mid 30s at the end of his and will most likely not be scoring 63 points.

I feel the problem would be Bogo. But at one year I think we could find a taker.

Hab fans seem to want Scandella for a late right pick. I was one of the poster that brought up trading away the other first with Okposo for anything, and I still love that idea.

Not sure if Botts would move a first to do that, or if a team would take it, but I hope its explored.

I look at a team like Ottawa, so much space, and so damn cheap. Could we wait until after July first to move Okposo with our 2020 second? Opkoso would then earn 3 million (3 million bonus paid out), 6 million, 4 million and 4 million while having that 6 million cap hit.
- Mentalorgasm5

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This point is horrible. Matthews was hurt for a big portion of the year, would of had more pts.

Matthews will be 27 at the end of his deal, it’s all his prime. Skinner will be in his mid 30s at the end of his and will most likely not be scoring 63 points.
- Fattony1187

If Skinner's health is questioned on his contract, which I have seen by Leaf fans, then Matthews' health has to also be questioned.

Matthews will be a UFA at the end of that deal. Makes it even worse imo.

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- seedy

No, he has a Limited No Trade Clause.

edit: nm, that is what the M stands for in the MNTC. Still, he can only pick 15.

most 5 on 5 goals in the last 3 years for any winger in the nhl

but keep trolling, like you do in most blogs

10pm friday, your single, and trolling a hockey chat room, nice life
- homiedclown

But Matthews is horrible contract, right? LOL

He did...last year
- Stripes77

Did he with his 60% Ozone starts? Or with his 79 giveaways compared to 44? Or maybe his 97 hits compared to 235. Could of possibly been his 66 blocked shots compared to 122.

He's gonna be good, but he still has to improve.

Matthews is the best goal scorer the NHL has seen since Ovechkin.

By far most 5 on 5 goals of any player since he came into the league with mediocre TOI. In fact Eichel gets way more TOI

Did he with his 60% Ozone starts? Or with his 79 giveaways compared to 44? Or maybe his 97 hits compared to 235. Could of possibly been his 66 blocked shots compared to 122.

He's gonna be good, but he still has to improve.
- adambuffalo

There's a reason that Risto had his best advanced stats when playing with Dahlin

Dahlin boosted every partners play

Risto cannot do that

Also hits...you know that hits mean they don't have the puck right?

Blocked shots...the same, more shot attempts because they don't have the puck

There's a reason that Risto had his best advanced stats when playing with Dahlin

Dahlin boosted every partners play

Risto cannot do that

Also hits...you know that hits mean they don't have the puck right?

Blocked shots...the same, more shot attempts because they don't have the puck
- Stripes77

Risto averaged more bad pinches attempting to hit people per/60 though

Matt Molasses
- gerbe75pts

Nope. 5 years.

Okposo has a MNTC
- seedy

Minnesota likes to take hometown guys. I would trade KO for Foligno. He may waive to finish his career back home. We could add Dougherty who is also from St Paul.

Matthews is the best goal scorer the NHL has seen since Ovechkin.

By far most 5 on 5 goals of any player since he came into the league with mediocre TOI. In fact Eichel gets way more TOI
- RogerRoeper

Value wise: Matthews at 73 points and 11.6 million

Or skinner at 63 points and 9 million

That is a 2.6million difference for 10 points.

Matthews isn’t even the 1C on his own team.

Both are good players. So not really a big deal.

Risto averaged more bad pinches attempting to hit people per/60 though
- sbroads24

The game has changed since the 90's, hits and blocked shots while they can be important at certain times, leading the league in those statistics nowadays means you're not so good at your job

The game has changed since the 90's, hits and blocked shots while they can be important at certain times, leading the league in those statistics nowadays means you're not so good at your job
- Stripes77

Risto to NJ for Zacha, Vantanen and their 2nd round pick. Saw it proposed on Capfriendly by NJ. I would be all over that trade.

The game has changed since the 90's, hits and blocked shots while they can be important at certain times, leading the league in those statistics nowadays means you're not so good at your job
- Stripes77

Ah yes, because some of the top guys blocking shots are not good. Seabrook, Trouba, Parayko, McDonagh John Carlsson must be the worst.