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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
Zucker seems like a great fit though
Can scores goals & he’s pretty fast

His playoff numbers worry me though

Also... why does Minny seem to want to move him so badly?

- jdfitz77


Minnesota's current GM is having a run of awful awful trades.
Seriously go look at how bad it is.

http://www.nhltradetracke..._by_team/Minnesota_Wild/1

Strike while the iron is hot
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
Rumor Eddie Lacy to buffalo

😂

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Lacy
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
He’s not very good in his own end.
Because he’s invisible in the playoffs.
His cap hit isn’t that great.
They want to spend the money elsewhere.
Suter and Parise’s deal are unmovable and still have 6yrs left.
Did I mention he’s not very good in his own end and sucks in the playoffs?

- dadeadhead



He's actually solid defensively but okay
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
He's actually solid defensively but okay
- Sabresfan-365

Zucker for Okposo and the 30/31
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
He's actually solid defensively but okay
- Sabresfan-365



Very vanilla like Stafford.

Half his points came on the pp last year.

Is he a 60 point winger or a 45 ish guy?

Relatively big signing after a career year.

Was a better even strength player before signing the deal.

Out last few trade with the Wild are very blah.

Is this the home run trade we need.

Lots of questions IMO.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
Zucker for Okposo and the 30/31
- SABRES 89



I’d do that but I doubt Minny does.

They’re trying to rid themselves of dead weight, not add to it.
SABRES 89
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Jun 11 @ 2:25 PM ET
I’d do that but I doubt Minny does.

They’re trying to rid themselves of dead weight, not add to it.

- dadeadhead

Good, give them Nylander also.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
He’s not very good in his own end.
Because he’s invisible in the playoffs.
His cap hit isn’t that great.
They want to spend the money elsewhere.
Suter and Parise’s deal are unmovable and still have 6yrs left.
Did I mention he’s not very good in his own end and sucks in the playoffs?

- dadeadhead


Not being all that good in his own end isn’t a deal breaker though
And I’m wondering if his playoff numbers are bc HE is playing bad,
or is it just the whole team that plays like crap
Playoff numbers are concerning for sure
SABRES 89
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Jun 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
Give the Leafs Scandella.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
I saw one of the TSN or whatever guys tweet this morning that the Sabres were in on wanting Dzingel and/or Nyquist.


I've always liked Nyquist... his speed would be great on our top 6 wings.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
I saw one of the TSN or whatever guys tweet this morning that the Sabres were in on wanting Dzingel and/or Nyquist.


I've always liked Nyquist... his speed would be great on our top 6 wings.

- JVince11



link? search came up empty
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
Very vanilla like Stafford.

Half his points came on the pp last year.

Is he a 60 point winger or a 45 ish guy?

Relatively big signing after a career year.

Was a better even strength player before signing the deal.

Out last few trade with the Wild are very blah.

Is this the home run trade we need.

Lots of questions IMO.

- dadeadhead


Who cares? Ill take a vanilla player who can chip in at both ends. The cap hit has him making less than a lot of top 6 forwards.

It may not be a home run, but if the wild insist on selling low on a good two way player, we should be looking to take advantage.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
I saw one of the TSN or whatever guys tweet this morning that the Sabres were in on wanting Dzingel and/or Nyquist.


I've always liked Nyquist... his speed would be great on our top 6 wings.

- JVince11



Problem is term for Gustav.

Nyquist just had a career year in points, is going to be 30, and just had his best playoffs.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
Well done
- washedup20



Nothing personal believe it or not, I just felt like being a complete butt hole to an unsuspecting poster....wrong spot at the right time.

peace
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
Who cares? Ill take a vanilla player who can chip in at both ends. The cap hit has him making less than a lot of top 6 forwards.

It may not be a home run, but if the wild insist on selling low on a good two way player, we should be looking to take advantage.

- Sabresfan-365



If he’s a 45 point guy then 5.5 is on the high end.

If he’s a 60 point guy then he’s on the low end.

Which is he is the question. Also if he puts up 45 and is making 5.5 and Sam puts up 65, that’ll put Sam in the 8 range. Very risky business.

I’d be interested to see what the cost comes down to.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:43 PM ET
If he’s a 45 point guy then 5.5 is on the high end.

If he’s a 60 point guy then he’s on the low end.

Which is he is the question. Also if he puts up 45 and is making 5.5 and Sam puts up 65, that’ll put Sam in the 8 range. Very risky business.

I’d be interested to see what the cost comes down to.

- dadeadhead


They already put sam in the 7.5-8 range when they gave Skinner 9 mil. It's moot now, if the trade cost is low, then even for say 50-55 points, 5.5 mil is close to fair value.

That production+defensive play in FA costs you 6 mil long term to a guy who probably isn't in his prime
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
They already put sam in the 7.5-8 range when they gave Skinner 9 mil. It's moot now, if the trade cost is low, then even for say 50-55 points, 5.5 mil is close to fair value.

That production+defensive play in FA costs you 6 mil long term to a guy who probably isn't in his prime

- Sabresfan-365



You have to ask yourself though.

If he’s such a good player, why does Minnesota want to sell low?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
link? search came up empty
- Sabresfan-365


Apparently it was LWOS writer Colton Osmond ripping a tweet from Lance Lysowski and adding names to it.

It popped up when I was in the gym and I breezed it quick. I guess it wasn't as reliable.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
His impacts weren't that special. Believe it or not, Erod provides much more positive impact than Compher.
- TheSabresTaco


This is correct.
He adds in different ways, although on the score sheet he did performed rather nicely in the playoffs..12 GP 4G 3A = 0.58 PPG. He increased his production year-over-year by 39%, from 23pts to 32pts last season playing in roughly 70 games. He has more growth to go.

Just what the management wants, utility, tough to play against (high compete), and a bit of snarl and grit.
What isn't to like?

For a 3rd-liner who can Play C and LW, I'd take it.
Put him and Erod together!! on the fourth eventually.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 11 @ 2:52 PM ET
You have to ask yourself though.

If he’s such a good player, why does Minnesota want to sell low?

- dadeadhead


If you go down that rabbit hole, you could ask why any useful player gets traded. There are a variety of factors. Tenure and the lack of team results during that time, coupled with Fenton wanting to make the roster in his image probably lead the list
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:53 PM ET
You have to ask yourself though.

If he’s such a good player, why does Minnesota want to sell low?

- dadeadhead



No I don't. It's the NHL. Just cause GMs hold a position of power does not mean they're smart. Same league thinks Gudbranson is good.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 11 @ 2:54 PM ET
The Pittsburgh Pens SB Nation writer posted on Twitter that the Penguins should trade Kessel to acquire Corey Perry.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 3:02 PM ET
If you go down that rabbit hole, you could ask why any useful player gets traded. There are a variety of factors. Tenure and the lack of team results during that time, coupled with Fenton wanting to make the roster in his image probably lead the list
- jcragcrumple


Yet they resigned Staal and still have Koivu.

Although IMO Staal is on a very friendly deal.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 11 @ 3:09 PM ET
You have to ask yourself though.

If he’s such a good player, why does Minnesota want to sell low?

- dadeadhead



I wouldn't call trading Zucker for Kessel, trading low. Not even remotely. Kessel is still a helluva player.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yet they resigned Staal and still have Koivu.

Although IMO Staal is on a very friendly deal.

- dadeadhead


Idk how they got Staal so cheap. He must really like it there. Definitely could have gotten at least $5 per for a 2-3 years on the open market imo
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