So nothing new
- gerbe75pts

Suck it, Beady.

kessel for mccabe and pick 30/31 has legs
- homiedclown

Anyway they can get Pitts to eat some celery?

Not yet
- jochfr

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- homiedclown

Did

You

Put

The

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In

The

Freezer


1st?

Could you imagine if Tage makes the team and puts up 30 points next year ? I'd love to see the reaction of this board. So many people will come out of hiding saying they believed in him from the beginning.

It would be like when everyone started the Scandella hatefest mid way through this year after Gerbe and I said he should have been gone the second the lottery balls bounced in our favour.
- Pegullaville

Imagine of our gm and owners had a vision of accumulating high end draft picks.

Similar to your boasting about losing perpetually

Scandella helped get us 7oa and dahlin -

Imagine of our gm and owners had a vision of accumulating high end draft picks.

Similar to your boasting about losing perpetually

Scandella helped get us 7oa and dahlin -
- Boss34

The most important players to this teams success outside of Eichel and Hutton/Ullmark next year are Mitts and Dahlin. Good teams are strong down the middle and on the backend. I'd rather pick 7OA and strengthen my chances of being a perpetual contender then moving assets before we are ready to contend only to lose in the first or second round and be back in the spin cycle.

The most important players to this teams success outside of Eichel and Hutton/Ullmark next year are Mitts and Dahlin. Good teams are strong down the middle and on the backend. I'd rather pick 7OA and strengthen my chances of being a perpetual contender then moving assets before we are ready to contend only to lose in the first or second round and be back in the spin cycle.
- Pegullaville

I know your kinda young, but watching the Sabres in the playoffs is fun.

You would like it.

These "draughts " are difficult to deal with as a buffalionan

Trading O’Reilly will be the best move for this team in the long run. I think it’s unfair to poop on Thompson after one season, he still has time to figure it out. Brock Nelson would have been a great 3C for 5-5.5M, Isles gave him $6M.

Skinner got a full NMC, 8 years instead of 5-6, and $9M instead of $7.5M-8M and so help me God if he turns out to be the anchor that Marleau was on the leafs these past two seasons for the last 3-4 years of his contract that would be even worse then the return we got for ROR.
- Pegullaville

So much of this is nonsense

Brock Nelson at 5.5mil was a pipe dream
He was always gonna be in the 6x6 range,
just like they’ve been saying for Hayes
And would’ve cost us even more to pull him away

Comparing him to Marleau?
Come on man
Marleau is 75 years older than Skinner

When will Skinner decline?
Neither of us know
But you’re mad about 8 years of Skinner starting at age 27
And u wanna go after Taylor Hall who will be 29 to start his next deal???


Kinda sounds as if guys u don’t like will drop off around 30 or 31...
but if you like the guy, then no worries about the age & potential drop off

Seriously... this is what I’m getting from you:
RORs deal ends at him being 32 = bad
Skinner’s will end when he’s 34 = bad
Hall’s will end when he’s 35 = let’s go after him

Trying to piece together your logic with some of this stuff is just mind boggling

So much of this is nonsense

Brock Nelson at 5.5mil was a pipe dream
He was always gonna be in the 6x6 range,
just like they’ve been saying for Hayes
And would’ve cost us even more to pull him away

Comparing him to Marleau?
Come on man
Marleau is 75 years older than Skinner

When will Skinner decline?
Neither of us know
But you’re mad about 8 years of Skinner starting at age 27
And u wanna go after Taylor Hall who will be 29 to start his next deal???


Kinda sounds as if guys u don’t like will drop off around 30 or 31...
but if you like the guy, then no worries about the age & potential drop off

Seriously... this is what I’m getting from you:
RORs deal ends at him being 32 = bad
Skinner’s will end when he’s 34 = bad
Hall’s will end when he’s 35 = let’s go after him

Trying to piece together your logic with some of this stuff is just mind boggling
- jdfitz77

Taylor Hall has been a top 5 LW in the game over the past 5 years. The guy won the Hart trophy for a reason. I make exceptions for the NHL's elite. Hall is one of those players. Hall is also a speed demon who has a great chance of having success in his mid-late thirties. ROR has cement skates and those guys decline quickly when their time comes. Skinner can be effective into his mid-late thirties but even in his prime is barely a 60 point player. Hall might not get me 40 goals, but he'll hit 30 and give you at least a PPG with Jack.

I know your kinda young, but watching the Sabres in the playoffs is fun.

You would like it.

These "draughts " are difficult to deal with as a buffalionan
- Boss34

I know your kinda young, but watching the Sabres in the playoffs is fun.

You would like it.

These "draughts " are difficult to deal with as a buffalionan
- Boss34

Being a consistent playoff team when every year we can go into October saying "this could be our year" would be pretty fun too though don't you think ? That time might even start as early as this year depending on what Botts can do this offseason.

Rutherford just said today that he believes that Kessel is starting the year in Pittsburgh next year. I would welcome Kessel with open arms though. Only 3 years left at $6.9M won't cripple us down the line.
- Pegullaville

If we aren’t gonna contend in 3years...
they why spend the assets to get him???

Taylor Hall has been a top 5 LW in the game over the past 5 years. The guy won the Hart trophy for a reason. I make exceptions for the NHL's elite. Hall is one of those players. Hall is also a speed demon who has a great chance of having success in his mid-late thirties. ROR has cement skates and those guys decline quickly when their time comes. Skinner can be effective into his mid-late thirties but even in his prime is barely a 60 point player. Hall might not get me 40 goals, but he'll hit 30 and give you at least a PPG with Jack.
- Pegullaville

Dude...
you just keep contracting yourself over & over

The last 3-4 years of Skinner’s deal are what you’re worried about per previous posts
So worried that u think his contract will become an “anchor”

But if Skinner can be effective into his “mid to late 30s” then you should be worried about the last 3-4years of his deal that go from age 31-34

If we aren’t gonna contend in 3years...
they why spend the assets to get him???
- jdfitz77

Adding a player like Phil could possibly speed up that process.

Dude...
you just keep contracting yourself over & over

The last 3-4 years of Skinner’s deal are what you’re worried about per previous posts
So worried that u think his contract will become an “anchor”

But if Skinner can be effective into his “mid to late 30s” then you should be worried about the last 3-4years of his deal that go from age 31-34
- jdfitz77

Skinner is already overpaid before he even starts the deal. Skinner can be an effective goal scorer as we have seen this past season but yes I think the last 3-4 years of that deal we'll wish that we bit the bullet when Dahlin was 19 not 23.

Taylor Hall has been a top 5 LW in the game over the past 5 years. The guy won the Hart trophy for a reason. I make exceptions for the NHL's elite. Hall is one of those players. Hall is also a speed demon who has a great chance of having success in his mid-late thirties. ROR has cement skates and those guys decline quickly when their time comes. Skinner can be effective into his mid-late thirties but even in his prime is barely a 60 point player. Hall might not get me 40 goals, but he'll hit 30 and give you at least a PPG with Jack.
- Pegullaville

I’ll say this.

If we had the current ROR, how he has played for STL, I wouldn’t have wanted him gone.

We got about 60% of that.

Part of me thinks this year is an aberration

Part of me thinks he didn’t like Buffalo past year 1

Adding a player like Phil could possibly speed up that process.
- Pegullaville

That's very true. We should also consider getting E. Kane and ROR to also help speed up that process.

I will say that we are probably closer now than we were when we got those two. But still, I'd rather give up Scandella or Bogo, but then we would have to give up more than a late first (which is really an early second )

Adding a player like Phil could possibly speed up that process.
- Pegullaville

Unless we’d win the Cup it would be a waste though, right?

3 years of us not winning the Cup with Kessel sounds a hell of a lot like your criticism of StLouis with ROR if they can’t win this year

More contradiction
Unless u think Kessel is the piece that wins us the Cup

That's very true. We should also consider getting E. Kane and ROR to also help speed up that process.

I will say that we are probably closer now than we were when we got those two. But still, I'd rather give up Scandella or Bogo, but then we would have to give up more than a late first (which is really an early second )
- ajb2493

Evander Kane isn’t a very good hockey player, despite the fact he can score goals.

Guys like Skinner are 2x as valuable.

Kane is a glorified 3rd liner who’s dumb as rocks on the ice

That's very true. We should also consider getting E. Kane and ROR to also help speed up that process.

I will say that we are probably closer now than we were when we got those two. But still, I'd rather give up Scandella or Bogo, but then we would have to give up more than a late first (which is really an early second )
- ajb2493

The Sharks probably already regret giving him a 7 year deal. If the Penguins move Phil I wouldn't think they would be taking any salary back. I like Jake McCabe, although I think he is a #5 d-man and with Pilut and guys like Bryson and Samuelsson waiting in the wings he is a guy that could be expendable further down the line anyways. Pick 30/31 I'd assume would be in play as well as we need to start putting a winning product on the ice.

Being a consistent playoff team when every year we can go into October saying "this could be our year" would be pretty fun too though don't you think ? That time might even start as early as this year depending on what Botts can do this offseason.
- Pegullaville

Any year in the playoffs. could be our year.

I think we have a good shot this year

Unless we’d win the Cup it would be a waste though, right?

3 years of us not winning the Cup with Kessel sounds a hell of a lot like your criticism of StLouis with ROR if they can’t win this year

More contradiction
Unless u think Kessel is the piece that wins us the Cup
- jdfitz77

St.Louis had no choice but to go for it. They have been in the thick of the race for years. My argument against St.Louis is that if they don't win it this year, it will be pretty darn hard for them to ever get back.

Buffalo's average age is what 25 ? We have a much longer window of opportunity.

I’ll say this.

If we had the current ROR, how he has played for STL, I wouldn’t have wanted him gone.

We got about 60% of that.

Part of me thinks this year is an aberration

Part of me thinks he didn’t like Buffalo past year 1
- sbroads24

All of me thinks there was a bunch of garbage players from the tank years still here
And they were the reasons our team has sucked

Most here still wanna turn over like half the roster

All of me thinks there was a bunch of garbage players from the tank years still here
And they were the reasons our team has sucked

Most here still wanna turn over like half the roster
- jdfitz77

In the 80-ish games from when Eichel was a rookie, and the two 20 some odd games he was hurt, where ROR was the undisputed #1 guy, he didn’t play like he did

Or produce I should say, like he has in STL

He had Reinhart as his most common line-mate last year, Okposo before the injuries.

He didn’t have to play with Larsson or Sobotka etc.

I think his production dips, I’m almost positive it will because his on ice shooting % (which is everyone on the ice with him, not just him) was higher than it’s ever been.

But he also never had a season defensively like he did.

I just don’t see how he doesn’t share any responsibility for that

St.Louis had no choice but to go for it. They have been in the thick of the race for years. My argument against St.Louis is that if they don't win it this year, it will be pretty darn hard for them to ever get back.

Buffalo's average age is what 25 ? We have a much longer window of opportunity.
- Pegullaville

Not with Kessel
We’d have him for 3 years
Can’t imagime you be expecting much from him at 35+ to keep him after the 3 years are up

So again...
if he isn’t gonna help us win a Cup in 3years,
why spend the assets???

U made it very clear with StL that coming close doesn’t matter & it’s all or nothing