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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
I just got my Alzner jersey yesterday!
- obie




He'll always have a place in our hearts.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
Alzner + Shaw + 15th overall for Gostisbehere + 11th overall
- Streit2ThePoint


Philly would clearly need to add... c'mon, Alzner was a 5th overall pick bud!!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
And you'd take #15 and Shaw? Not sure why this hasn't happened yet? Unless they are waiting until Thursday to be polite
- Takemedrunkimhome


In all seriousness I'd want that plus a prospect coming back to Philly. Not Poehling or Suzuki, of course.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:15 PM ET
Philly would clearly need to add... c'mon, Alzner was a 5th overall pick bud!!
- obie


Fine.

FINAL OFFER

Alzner + 15th Overall for Gostisbehere + 11th overall + JvR



That's 5+15 = 20 for 78+11+2 = 91

91/20 = 4.55 x 4.625 cap hit = 21 + 1 extra player from philly = 22 which is Alzner's jersey number so it checks out
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:17 PM ET
They want to bring in a solid vet D-man and hopefully some help up front in a scoring winger.

Gostisbehere is one player that has high value and is "expendable" to a degree

- Streit2ThePoint


Is he not overrated a little as well? That would scare me a little.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:19 PM ET
In all seriousness I'd want that plus a prospect coming back to Philly. Not Poehling or Suzuki, of course.
- Streit2ThePoint


D prospect? Maybe Brook?

Shaw + Brook + 15th and Philly takes Alzner @ 25% retained.... I'll send the paperwork through to the NHL offices
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Is he not overrated a little as well? That would scare me a little.
- deadpoulet


Offensively, he's a beast... defensively, he'd be paired with Weber
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Fine.

FINAL OFFER

Alzner + 15th Overall for Gostisbehere + 11th overall + JvR



That's 5+15 = 20 for 78+11+2 = 91

91/20 = 4.55 x 4.625 cap hit = 21 + 1 extra player from philly = 22 which is Alzner's jersey number so it checks out

- Streit2ThePoint





obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:21 PM ET
Fine.

FINAL OFFER

Alzner + 15th Overall for Gostisbehere + 11th overall + JvR



That's 5+15 = 20 for 78+11+2 = 91

91/20 = 4.55 x 4.625 cap hit = 21 + 1 extra player from philly = 22 which is Alzner's jersey number so it checks out

- Streit2ThePoint


Alzner is #27.... no deal!!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
Alzner is #27.... no deal!!
- obie

deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
Offensively, he's a beast... defensively, he'd be paired with Weber
- obie


Pretty sure he was playing as a 5th/6th defenseman on their team at some point.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:24 PM ET
Pretty sure he was playing as a 5th/6th defenseman on their team at some point.
- deadpoulet


Pretty sure Tatar was a healthy scratch for Vegas most of their cup run and he turned out alright
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
D prospect? Maybe Brook?

Shaw + Brook + 15th and Philly takes Alzner @ 25% retained.... I'll send the paperwork through to the NHL offices

- obie


I would not overpay to deal Alzner. Buy him out if you need to.

Maybe you like Ghost more than I do.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
I would not overpay to deal Alzner. Buy him out if you need to.

Maybe you like Ghost more than I do.

- deadpoulet


I don't think its really overpaying...

And did you not say just yesterday that I'm always low balling offers?

Which is it?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:28 PM ET
Pretty sure Tatar was a healthy scratch for Vegas most of their cup run and he turned out alright
- obie


It was a nice surprise. He came in with Suzuki. Really a bad example.

If you trade the 15 pick plus a top prospect, you better get a pretty good defenseman coming back and not a maybe thing.

I would keep Brook as well.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Pretty sure he was playing as a 5th/6th defenseman on their team at some point.
- deadpoulet

Think he was a healthy scratch at one point due to a poopty coach. Pretty sure he also had over 60 points the year before
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Pretty sure he was playing as a 5th/6th defenseman on their team at some point.
- deadpoulet


He struggled a bit, yes, but was primarily on their second line. Mainly paired with...... MacDonald
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:31 PM ET
I don't think its really overpaying...

And did you not say just yesterday that I'm always low balling offers?

Which is it?

- obie


Usually you do, but then you went from that to this.

Like I said, it depends what you see in Ghost, Brook and what they can get with the pick 15.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:34 PM ET
He struggled a bit, yes, but was primarily on their second line. Mainly paired with...... MacDonald
- Streit2ThePoint


I think his value on the market is higher than his value on the ice. I'm sure he could help us, but there's a reason the Flyers might trade him.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 11 @ 12:36 PM ET
I think his value on the market is higher than his value on the ice. I'm sure he could help us, but there's a reason the Flyers might trade him.
- deadpoulet

Isn't that true about the vast majority of players who are on the trade market or ufa market?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think his value on the market is higher than his value on the ice. I'm sure he could help us, but there's a reason the Flyers might trade him.
- deadpoulet


So no trades then... if a player is available through trade, there must be a reason so don't trade for him... that was clearly put on display this year with Domi!

You give nothing, you get nothing.... whatever you think the problem is with Ghost, one thing is for sure, he'd be the best LD on the roster right now
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:40 PM ET
So no trades then... if a player is available through trade, there must be a reason so don't trade for him... that was clearly put on display this year with Domi!

You give nothing, you get nothing.... whatever you think the problem is with Ghost, one thing is for sure, he'd be the best LD on the roster right now

- obie[
/quote]



That's not hard to beat.

Why do you want to trade Brook all of a sudden?
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:40 PM ET
Le prince heritier.

Boy/girl?

- MortChicken



haha I'm keeping that one.

Boy, future bilionnaire Seattle Kraken #1 goalie
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
[quote=obie]So no trades then... if a player is available through trade, there must be a reason so don't trade for him... that was clearly put on display this year with Domi!

You give nothing, you get nothing.... whatever you think the problem is with Ghost, one thing is for sure, he'd be the best LD on the roster right now

- deadpoulet[
/quote]

That's not hard to beat.

Why do you want to trade Brook all of a sudden?


I don't want to trade Brook, but he or Juulsen, even Fleury are definitely expandable if the return is what you're looking for...

And if it's not "hard to beat" why haven't they found one yet?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 11 @ 12:46 PM ET
I don't want to trade Brook, but he or Juulsen, even Fleury are definitely expandable if the return is what you're looking for...

And if it's not "hard to beat" why haven't they found one yet?

- obie

When people try to convince themselves that Mikey Riley is a legit top 4 D, yes you go out and pay for something better
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