And Danault is not a 6 million dollar player
- obie

A defensively responsible C who produces 50+ points, kills penalties and will be in his mid 20's. In a cap world at $83 million this year and likely close to $90 million when he signs...me thinks you'll be disappointed when you see him sign

A defensively responsible C who produces 50+ points, kills penalties and will be in his mid 20's. In a cap world at $83 million this year and likely close to $90 million when he signs...me thinks you'll be disappointed when you see him sign
- Takemedrunkimhome

50 points once, career high of 13 goals and he'll be late 20's by the time this deal is done.. if Danault is a 6 million dollar player then Domi should get around 10... and if Kotkaniemi and Poehling reach their potential in the next 24 months, is there a need for a 3rd line C at 6 million?

50 points once, career high of 13 goals and he'll be late 20's by the time this deal is done.. if Danault is a 6 million dollar player then Domi should get around 10... and if Kotkaniemi and Poehling reach their potential in the next 24 months, is there a need for a 3rd line C at 6 million?
- obie

A lot of if's in there but "if" I were Danault's agent the comps in the $6m range aren't hard to find. I understand your point on a few things but I've learned in life to wait for the Kotkaniemi's and Poehling's to become something before counting on them, rather than assuming they'll pan out. At this point you can't guarantee either is even a top 6 winger. They say you can never have too many good C's and I've been a Habs fan long enough to remember both what it's like having good C's and a lot of what it's like NOT having good C's

A lot of if's in there but "if" I were Danault's agent the comps in the $6m range aren't hard to find. I understand your point on a few things but I've learned in life to wait for the Kotkaniemi's and Poehling's to become something before counting on them, rather than assuming they'll pan out. At this point you can't guarantee either is even a top 6 winger. They say you can never have too many good C's and I've been a Habs fan long enough to remember both what it's like having good C's and a lot of what it's like NOT having good C's
- Takemedrunkimhome

Even if both Kotkaniemi & Poehling bust out, you still have Domi & Suzuki...

Let me ask you this... do you believe a team with Danault as a top 6 C will compete for a Cup anytime soon?

Even if both Kotkaniemi & Poehling bust out, you still have Domi & Suzuki...

Let me ask you this... do you believe a team with Danault as a top 6 C will compete for a Cup anytime soon?
- obie

I think you need 3 top 6 quality Cs to compete for a Cup and feel Danault, especially with his PK and 200 ft abilities can be a part of that group

50 points once, career high of 13 goals and he'll be late 20's by the time this deal is done.. if Danault is a 6 million dollar player then Domi should get around 10... and if Kotkaniemi and Poehling reach their potential in the next 24 months, is there a need for a 3rd line C at 6 million?
- obie

It won't be this quick. Depends on which line they'll play on and with Danault and Domi as current 1-2 centres, it'll probably be on the third line.

I think you need 3 top 6 quality Cs to compete for a Cup and feel Danault, especially with his PK and 200 ft abilities can be a part of that group
- Takemedrunkimhome

You think in a cap world you can pay a 3rd line C 6+?

The Leafs had Kadri, a 30 goal man at 4.5 and they're in cap hell....

It won't be this quick. Depends on which line they'll play on and with Danault and Domi as current 1-2 centres, it'll probably be on the third line.
- Good On Paper

You don't think Kotkaniemi could come out and score 20 and put up 50 points this season?

You don't think Kotkaniemi could come out and score 20 and put up 50 points this season?
- obie

Like I said man, it depends. With Lehkonen and Armia? Nope.

You think in a cap world you can pay a 3rd line C 6+?

The Leafs had Kadri, a 30 goal man at 4.5 and they're in cap hell....
- obie

Blues are paying Bozak $5m. It's worked out well for them. 2 years from now that's roughly $6m

Like I said man, it depends. With Lehkonen and Armia? Nope.
- Good On Paper

Until it happens it hasn't happened and banking on it is folly

Blues are paying Bozak $5m. It's worked out well for them. 2 years from now that's roughly $6m
- Takemedrunkimhome

Blues don't have an 10.5 million dollar goalie

Until it happens it hasn't happened and banking on it is folly
- Takemedrunkimhome

Exactly. It's great that we have 3 prospects who can potentially be top 6 centres. But to expect all 3 to reach that potential and within 2 years on top of it...sorry, but I don't think so.

Blues don't have an 10.5 million dollar goalie
- obie

Habs don't have a $7.5m winger. What's your point?

Like I said man, it depends. With Lehkonen and Armia? Nope.
- Good On Paper

And that's my point exactly.... how long are you gonna let top prospects play 3rd line minutes with wingers that can't score? How long before you give some kids a shot to truly see what you have?

-Move Domi back to the wing after he put up 70+ points

-Keep Kotkaniemi on the 3rd line

-Maybe Poehling can play wing on the 4th line

-Gotta send Suzuki back because there's no room

....and all this so they can make sure Danault, who scored in a grand total of 8 games as a #1 C with the 2 best scoring wingers on the team, can stay in that spot?

Exactly. It's great that we have 3 prospects who can potentially be top 6 centres. But to expect all 3 to reach that potential and within 2 years on top of it...sorry, but I don't think so.
- Good On Paper

They need one of them to be a top 6 C, not all 3

And that's my point exactly.... how long are you gonna let top prospects play 3rd line minutes with wingers that can't score? How long before you give some kids a shot to truly see what you have?

-Move Domi back to the wing after he put up 70+ points

-Keep Kotkaniemi on the 3rd line

-Maybe Poehling can play wing on the 4th line

-Gotta send Suzuki back because there's no room

....and all this so they can make sure Danault, who scored in a grand total of 8 games as a #1 C with the 2 best scoring wingers on the team, can stay in that spot?
- obie

All good questions for Bergevin and Julien.

We spoke about this ad nauseam, but I'm not convinced moving Domi to the wing will prevent him from continuing to produce.

I think that as soon as it's clear to Julien that KK can produce more than whoever is already on the second line, he'll make the switch.

They need one of them to be a top 6 C, not all 3
- obie

How long did we hear about prospects taking Davey D's spot and they all failed? Let's wait for a chicken to hatch...bets are well hedged. But I'm patient

How long did we hear about prospects taking Davey D's spot and they all failed? Let's wait for a chicken to hatch...bets are well hedged. But I'm patient
- Takemedrunkimhome

What prospects? The Habs had 3 prospects of that caliber when DD was around?

And what if Domi prefers playing C?

What prospects? The Habs had 3 prospects of that caliber when DD was around?

And what if Domi prefers playing C?
- obie

Domi still needs to improve on faceoffs and defensive part of the position. His first year was great but even his o was buoyed by a high shooting percentage. I want to see more

All good questions for Bergevin and Julien.

We spoke about this ad nauseam, but I'm not convinced moving Domi to the wing will prevent him from continuing to produce.

I think that as soon as it's clear to Julien that KK can produce more than whoever is already on the second line, he'll make the switch.
- Good On Paper

Kotkaniemi had 1 goal less than Danault playing with plugs on a 3rd line while Danault played every shift with Gallagher and Tatar.... can I say for sure Kotkaniemi could outscore Danault right now? No, but I would certainly put money on it

Domi still needs to improve on faceoffs and defensive part of the position. His first year was great but even his o was buoyed by a high shooting percentage. I want to see more
- Takemedrunkimhome

And I'd like to see more than 12 goals from the 1st line C

And I'd like to see more than 12 goals from the 1st line C
- obie

Again I hear you...but Danault is the only guy today playing the position in a complete way...o isn't top end (although was like 53rd which is mis 2nd line tier) but everything else is elite

Again I hear you...but Danault is the only guy today playing the position in a complete way...o isn't top end (although was like 53rd which is mis 2nd line tier) but everything else is elite
- Takemedrunkimhome

Elite? Are we still talking about Danault?

Just as I was warming up to the idea of keeping Danault as a 3rd line C and maybe putting Domi on the wing later on down the road, you guys have raised the bar with Danault being elite and worth 6 million

Danault racked up a bunch of assists because Gallagher and Tatar were firing on all cylinders!!