Keep lucic. Erickson doesnt want to play there anymore so they have to get rid of him. Lucic is getting a fresh start with new gm and coach.If they make this trade oilers should ask for a third round pick at least. benning knows he needs to protect his young soft players.

It seems like yesterday when the Oiler fans were squealing with delight that they signed Lucic, McD's winger for the next 7 years. How things have changed. Now you can't give him away. This is a precautionary tale for all teams signing an aging player for a large sum of money and to a long term contract.

Keep lucic. Erickson doesnt want to play there anymore so they have to get rid of him. Lucic is getting a fresh start with new gm and coach.If they make this trade oilers should ask for a third round pick at least. benning knows he needs to protect his young soft players.
- oil90

My thoughts exactly. Unless we are saving cap i wouldn't move him. I would ask that they play him a lot less though.

It seems like yesterday when the Oiler fans were squealing with delight that they signed Lucic, McD's winger for the next 7 years. How things have changed. Now you can't give him away. This is a precautionary tale for all teams signing an aging player for a large sum of money and to a long term contract.
- islansjet

That’s some deep insight right there.

It seems like yesterday when the Oiler fans were squealing with delight that they signed Lucic, McD's winger for the next 7 years. How things have changed. Now you can't give him away. This is a precautionary tale for all teams signing an aging player for a large sum of money and to a long term contract.
- islansjet

Its an inherit risk when you sign anybody. Lucic played quite well in LA just before. You dont know hes gonna poop the bed.

I’m sure McDavid isn’t so happy about being there much these days.
- Slip and slap

Booooooring but based on what team you cheer for it’s not like you have too much ammo to begin with

Its an inherit risk when you sign anybody. Lucic played quite well in LA just before. You dont know hes gonna poop the bed.
- poisondhearts37

Actually a fair amount of people says that Lucic contract was horrible as soon as he signed it....he certainly wasn’t the Bruins version of Lucic in LA either.....Chia gambled and lost....I really hope he isn’t a gambler with his own money

Hi Milan. We have a way to give you a fresh start. Get out of Edmonton. Go live in Vancouver. They will honour your NMC. One tiny detail, you have to agree to be UN-protected in the expansion draft. Chances are that Seattle will have no interest in you. But even if they did, you move like 90 minutes further south.

Agree? Alternative is stay in Edmonton where everyone wants you to vanish.

This. Once a NMC/NTC is active, it carries over in trades. The exception is for contracts given to RFA's that have a NMC/NTC that will kick in once they are eligible, who are traded before that happens. Only then does it becomes the acquiring teams option to honor it or not. Lucic's NMC goes with him.

Players do have the option to waive for the expansion draft though, and Vancouver could insist on having that talk with him prior to making a trade.
- Antilles

The clause can travel with the player even if he consents to being traded or is claimed on waivers
This requires that the acquiring team sign an addendum to the contract ensuring that the clause does in fact travel with the player (written by the player's agent)
If the acquiring team refuses to sign the addendum, and the player waives his clause anyway, at that point the clause may be nullified
If the player is traded before the clause takes effect, the acquiring team can opt to void the clause

Hi Milan. We have a way to give you a fresh start. Get out of Edmonton. Go live in Vancouver. They will honour your NMC. One tiny detail, you have to agree to be UN-protected in the expansion draft. Chances are that Seattle will have no interest in you. But even if they did, you move like 90 minutes further south.

Agree? Alternative is stay in Edmonton where everyone wants you to vanish.
- uofcguy

Probably not the best tactic seeing as he holds all the cards and will cash in on 6 mil over the next 4 years regardless

Hi Milan. We have a way to give you a fresh start. Get out of Edmonton. Go live in Vancouver. They will honour your NMC. One tiny detail, you have to agree to be UN-protected in the expansion draft. Chances are that Seattle will have no interest in you. But even if they did, you move like 90 minutes further south.

Agree? Alternative is stay in Edmonton where everyone wants you to vanish.
- uofcguy

Precisely

Precisely
- MaximumBone

I must be the only one who views that as a bad strategy to approach him with

Oilers are apparently interested in defenceman Kristian Näkyvä.....we sure seem to be doing a bit of window shopping over in Europe this offseason

Gotta consider a number of factors in mulling the possibility and guessing at the final trade. From Vancouver's end:

PRO:
- acquire a physical presence (filling a "need")
- get rid of Eriksson
- getting the younger of two players
- Lucic is more likely to LTIR (his back problem)

CON:
- acquire a longer term contract
- the NMC concern
- having to watch Lucic play

From Edmonton's side:

PRO:
- get rid of Lucic
- only have to watch Lucic play 4-5 times/year
- shorter term remaining w/o NMC
- Eriksson is more likely to retire (back to Sweden)
- slightly better fit for the team

CON:
- lose a physical presence (in-division)
- acquire the older player

I'd say Edmonton gets the better of the deal, but only marginally. What can be done is to try to remove a CON or two from Vancouver's side to better balance the transactions. I'd suggest an agreement for Lucic to waive his NMC for the expansions draft, a split of the final year's cap hit and a conditional sweetener based on if Lucic plays the final year of his deal. If he doesn't end up playing it, the sweetener will be void (or seriously reduced). Something like:

Lucic w/ 50% retained cap in the final year and a conditional pick (is a 3rd if he plays the final year; becomes a 5th if he doesn't play [buyout] or nothing if he retires before then) for Eriksson

I must be the only one who views that as a bad strategy to approach him with
- RatedR80

What's he gonna do? Spite us by sticking around? That's the most likely scenario anyway. He'll eventually be relegated to the bench and play out his career as a nothing sooner than he otherwise might. Not show up? Cool, the contract can be voided and we're saved the burden. Request a trade? He's already done that, apparently.

Neither side has much leverage here. It's kind of an "accept the only option we have or stew here for 4 years" kind of deal.

Oilers are apparently interested in defenceman Kristian Näkyvä.....we sure seem to be doing a bit of window shopping over in Europe this offseason
- RatedR80

We should sign him. His wife is some super model as well.

What's he gonna do? Spite us by sticking around? That's the most likely scenario anyway. He'll eventually be relegated to the bench and play out his career as a nothing sooner than he otherwise might. Not show up? Cool, the contract can be voided and we're saved the burden. Request a trade? He's already done that, apparently.

Neither side has much leverage here. It's kind of an "accept the only option we have or stew here for 4 years" kind of deal.
- MaximumBone

I think the one thing that will happen is his leash will be a lot shorter with this new regime then the prior one and while I suggested he could just be a Richard and say no I imagine he will want to play which could be a deciding factor

We should sign him. His wife is some super model as well.
- oil90

Fine but she has to attend all the games and gets significant camera time for the games we get blown out in

My thoughts exactly. Unless we are saving cap i wouldn't move him. I would ask that they play him a lot less though.
- Rev

Less than 13 minutes per game. Like what 6 minutes, and the Canucks want that for $6MM because?

Gotta consider a number of factors in mulling the possibility and guessing at the final trade. From Vancouver's end:

PRO:
- acquire a physical presence (filling a "need")
- get rid of Eriksson
- getting the younger of two players
- Lucic is more likely to LTIR (his back problem)

CON:
- acquire a longer term contract
- the NMC concern
- having to watch Lucic play

From Edmonton's side:

PRO:
- get rid of Lucic
- only have to watch Lucic play 4-5 times/year
- shorter term remaining w/o NMC
- Eriksson is more likely to retire (back to Sweden)
- slightly better fit for the team

CON:
- lose a physical presence (in-division)
- acquire the older player

I'd say Edmonton gets the better of the deal, but only marginally. What can be done is to try to remove a CON or two from Vancouver's side to better balance the transactions. I'd suggest an agreement for Lucic to waive his NMC for the expansions draft, a split of the final year's cap hit and a conditional sweetener based on if Lucic plays the final year of his deal. If he doesn't end up playing it, the sweetener will be void (or seriously reduced). Something like:

Lucic w/ 50% retained cap in the final year and a conditional pick (is a 3rd if he plays the final year; becomes a 5th if he doesn't play
- MaximumBone[buyout] or nothing if he retires before then) for Eriksson

How about they trade him to Minnesota. Parise is getting $7.5MM + until he's like 42.

Eriksson is a better player, seems like a pointless move for Vancouver.

Gotta consider a number of factors in mulling the possibility and guessing at the final trade. From Vancouver's end:

PRO:
- acquire a physical presence (filling a "need")
- get rid of Eriksson
- getting the younger of two players
- Lucic is more likely to LTIR (his back problem)

CON:
- acquire a longer term contract
- the NMC concern
- having to watch Lucic play
Eriksson wont wave to Edmonton so its all mute, a 3 way deal is the only way it happens.
From Edmonton's side:

PRO:
- get rid of Lucic
- only have to watch Lucic play 4-5 times/year
- shorter term remaining w/o NMC
- Eriksson is more likely to retire (back to Sweden)
- slightly better fit for the team

CON:
- lose a physical presence (in-division)
- acquire the older player

I'd say Edmonton gets the better of the deal, but only marginally. What can be done is to try to remove a CON or two from Vancouver's side to better balance the transactions. I'd suggest an agreement for Lucic to waive his NMC for the expansions draft, a split of the final year's cap hit and a conditional sweetener based on if Lucic plays the final year of his deal. If he doesn't end up playing it, the sweetener will be void (or seriously reduced). Something like:

Lucic w/ 50% retained cap in the final year and a conditional pick (is a 3rd if he plays the final year; becomes a 5th if he doesn't play
- MaximumBone[buyout] or nothing if he retires before then) for Eriksson

Gotta consider a number of factors in mulling the possibility and guessing at the final trade. From Vancouver's end:

PRO:
- acquire a physical presence (filling a "need")
- get rid of Eriksson
- getting the younger of two players
- Lucic is more likely to LTIR (his back problem)

CON:
- acquire a longer term contract
- the NMC concern
- having to watch Lucic play

From Edmonton's side:

PRO:
- get rid of Lucic
- only have to watch Lucic play 4-5 times/year
- shorter term remaining w/o NMC
- Eriksson is more likely to retire (back to Sweden)
- slightly better fit for the team

CON:
- lose a physical presence (in-division)
- acquire the older player

I'd say Edmonton gets the better of the deal, but only marginally. What can be done is to try to remove a CON or two from Vancouver's side to better balance the transactions. I'd suggest an agreement for Lucic to waive his NMC for the expansions draft, a split of the final year's cap hit and a conditional sweetener based on if Lucic plays the final year of his deal. If he doesn't end up playing it, the sweetener will be void (or seriously reduced). Something like:

Lucic w/ 50% retained cap in the final year and a conditional pick (is a 3rd if he plays the final year; becomes a 5th if he doesn't play
- MaximumBone[buyout] or nothing if he retires before then) for Eriksson

Sounds like both players need to be taken out back, Old Yeller style.
Result: EDM and VAN win.

Sounds like both players need to be taken out back, Old Yeller style.
Result: EDM and VAN win.
- storm88

Eriksson is a better player, seems like a pointless move for Vancouver.
- morrison1980

They both suck... it's like making a decision between trading for a big smelly triple coiler (Lucic) vs a splash of diarrhea (Eriksson)