RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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We dont need Caulfield unless we're moving on from Yamamoto - Reveen.
You gunna consult with the OBC about the pick in the mock draft?
Any thoughts on looking to trade up or down? Sabres and Avs just had an interesting exchange. |
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prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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His suggestion is clearly a question of sacrificing size on two prospect wingers. While it's less of a hurdle these days, it still is a hurdle. It's not a question of Yamamoto and no one else or Caufield and no one else but rather a question of Yamamoto and Cozens, Boldy or whoever VS Yamamoto and Caufield.
I prefer the option that provides greater variety. - MaximumBone
i.e. we've got a small winger, get soemthing else?
Meh, chances are, with prospect, one of them, maybe both, will never make the team. Take the better winger. The variety you think you're building for your NHL team, with these prospects, you're not really. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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You gunna consult with the OBC about the pick in the mock draft?
Any thoughts on looking to trade up or down? Sabres and Avs just had an interesting exchange. - RonPielep
You missed the trade Optimus (in control of Colorado's 16th overall pick) proposed to Reveen in the previous blog (I don't think Reveen saw it though). I'll quote it in a following post. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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8th OA
Russell
Puljujarvi
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16th OA
47th OA
Kaut
Barrie
Rights to Varlamov - optimus-reim
This was proposed from Optimus-Reim who is in control of Colorado's 16th overall pick in Sean's previous blog.
Reveen better say yes to that. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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Would Anaheim consider accepting a package centered around a Lucic for Perry deal? |
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Reveen.
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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true, because teams only ever need one winger, right? Having more than one good one is just silly. Ergo, having more than one wing prospect is just ludicrous, because the success rate on prospects is 100%. And once you have two successes, you have to choose one and the second just vanishes. - prock
Running two severely undersized forwards isn't smart |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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His suggestion is clearly a question of sacrificing size on two prospect wingers. While it's less of a hurdle these days, it still is a hurdle. It's not a question of Yamamoto and no one else or Caufield and no one else but rather a question of Yamamoto and Cozens, Boldy or whoever VS Yamamoto and Caufield.
I prefer the option that provides greater variety. - MaximumBone
I prefer seeing what Kailer turns into and looking at a Cozens, Turcotte, Boldy etc... |
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Reveen.
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Would Anaheim consider accepting a package centered around a Lucic for Perry deal? - EdmHockeyMan
There really is no reason for them to do that trade |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Running two severely undersized forwards isn't smart - Reveen.
Having 2 undersized forward prospects in the system is a long way from having 2 undersized forwards make the team. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Having 2 undersized forward prospects in the system is a long way from having 2 undersized forwards make the team. - prock
Caulfield is a high risk high reward type of prospect... I think historically his size works against him. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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There really is no reason for them to do that trade - Reveen.
That's what I think too.
Did you say yes to Optimus's deal? Did he PM you? |
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i.e. we've got a small winger, get soemthing else?
Meh, chances are, with prospect, one of them, maybe both, will never make the team. Take the better winger. The variety you think you're building for your NHL team, with these prospects, you're not really. - prock
Fan of nitpicking, I take it?
No one said anything against BPA; merely that adding another short, boom-or-bust offensive winger to our existing prospect pool wouldn't be wise given the other available names. Caufield's boom potential is beyond great but most players this high in the order have potentials within the same wheelhouse. Further, they likely offer a greater chance at reaching those heights on account of not having the size impediment that Caufield does. |
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RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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This was proposed from Optimus-Reim who is in control of Colorado's 16th overall pick in Sean's previous blog.
Reveen better say yes to that. - EdmHockeyMan
That’s not bad but I’m a bit torn in that I don’t put much value in Barrie for a single season and the rights to Varlamov (which could be nothing). I also probably still value Puljujarvi more than most. The drop from 8 to 16 is significant imo. |
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Patrick Russell has been re-signed. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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That's what I think too.
Did you say yes to Optimus's deal? Did he PM you? - EdmHockeyMan
I countered and havent heard back... |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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I countered with the following
8th OA
Russell
Bear
Puljujarvi
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16th OA
Kerfoot
Barrie |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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That’s not bad but I’m a bit torn in that I don’t put much value in Barrie for a single season and the rights to Varlamov (which could be nothing). I also probably still value Puljujarvi more than most. The drop from 8 to 16 is significant imo. - RonPielep
I'd do that since I'm a big fan of what Barrie brings and he is jsut hitting his prime. Acquiring the rights to Varly (who I'm a big fan of) would help solidify a 1A/1B tandem.
I don't put much value into Pulj's stock at this point honestly. If anything, a change of scenery for him is probably the best thing. Why do you still value Pulj more than most?
It would also open the possibility of exploring a trade centered around Klefbom for Nylander. Toronto needs defense. Edmonton needs offense. I think that's a deal both sides would find mutually beneficial (not to mention it frees up nearly 3m in cap space for TOR). |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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I countered with the following
8th OA
Russell
Bear
Puljujarvi
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16th OA
Kerfoot
Barrie - Reveen.
I like that a lot from our side. Methinks he'd want Jones instead of Bear though. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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I like that a lot from our side. Methinks he'd want Jones instead of Bear though. - EdmHockeyMan
Meh... Im not sure if I would do that... would have to think on it. |
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RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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I'd do that since I'm a big fan of what Barrie brings and he is jsut hitting his prime. Acquiring the rights to Varly (who I'm a big fan of) would help solidify a 1A/1B tandem.
I don't put much value into Pulj's stock at this point honestly. If anything, a change of scenery for him is probably the best thing. Why do you still value Pulj more than most?
It would also open the possibility of exploring a trade centered around Klefbom for Nylander. Toronto needs defense. Edmonton needs offense. I think that's a deal both sides would find mutually beneficial (not to mention it frees up nearly 3m in cap space for TOR). - EdmHockeyMan
Mostly because I think Puljujarvi was rushed and mismanaged early on so the Oilers should be patient with him and give him a chance to develop before giving up on a 21 year old who probably should have just got his first serious sniff at NHL action last year or next. A full year in the AHL could do wonders for him. Even if his IQ is a irreconcilable problem and he doesn't turn into anything more than an Oil version of Jake Virtanen I think that still provides more value to the team than selling him at his lowest value.
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Patrick Russell has been re-signed. - MaximumBone
They certainly haven’t wasted time in resigning their AHL players and I would expect a couple of them to be on the team next season |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Friedman saying JP would have to be the sweetener if said Lucic for Loui trade was to happen....I wouldn’t do it |
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RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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Friedman saying JP would have to be the sweetener if said Lucic for Loui trade was to happen....I wouldn’t do it - RatedR80
Neither would I. What a (frank)ing mess that would be.
Why is JP already a write-off worth nothing but a 4th rounder but I don’t hear the same about Olli Juolevi in Van? Patience with prospects does not seem to be a strength in this organization. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Neither would I. What a (frank)ing mess that would be.
Why is JP already a write-off worth nothing but a 4th rounder but I don’t hear the same about Olli Juolevi in Van? Patience with prospects does not seem to be a strength in this organization. - RonPielep
I’m hoping Holland can change the mantra of “rush them to the NHL then rush them out the door if they fail” mentality.....I have said it before and ill say it once more.....keep JP and see if Holland can come up with a good plan....if you are going to trade him then make sure it’s a good one....throwing away JP for nothing should not be an option at all |
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sfrizz
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.05.2010
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Caulfield is a high risk high reward type of prospect... I think historically his size works against him. - Reveen.
Maybe but he’s been over a goal a game pretty well everywhere he’s played |
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