Why does it have to be as soon as humanly possible? It should take however long it needs to hopefully be a good deal for both sides. Be that 2 days or two weeks.
- Flyers1218

As long as he is signed before July 1, I'm good. No need to rush the man and piss him off. He was here on Tuesday, allegedly. Give him time to see all the area has to offer.

Why does it have to be as soon as humanly possible? It should take however long it needs to hopefully be a good deal for both sides. Be that 2 days or two weeks.
- Flyers1218

Because even though you’ve traded for the guys rights, doesn’t mean it’s a slam dunk that he signs with you. If I’m a player and the choice to go anywhere including a Utopia like California comes calling or my home town, why should I listen to a team that is pretty much saying “we’ll get to you when we can”. I mean, this is my raise we’re talking about. I want it now. I wanna know it’s edged in stone. What are you going to do for me?

I don’t have any issue with you thinking differently, nor should I have or want any say in how you think. But the information you are giving to complain about something that they still have over 10 days to complete is ridiculous. If you don’t want Hayes, then fine. A lot of people on here don’t. But don’t say it was a stupid trade because he hasn’t signed yet. Give them a chance.

PS- Seravalli just tweeted that Hayes came to Philly to visit today. Don’t know if that will lead to a signing but at least they are trying.
- Flyers1218

I “complain” because Kevin Hayes isn’t that good. He isn’t a difference maker and yet we have to have him. Why? If I’m hearing a 30 goal scorer at a cheaper cost with term and a balanced two way game like Kadri could be shipped out of Toronto, what do I want with Kevin Hayes?

What your comments boil down to is, you don’t like that I don’t like the player we’re choosing to go after. I don’t see any other teams trading for the rights for any other average players.

As long as he is signed before July 1, I'm good. No need to rush the man and piss him off. He was here on Tuesday, allegedly. Give him time to see all the area has to offer.
- jaws1955

Ohhhh, you don’t wanna piss Kevin Hayes off.

Were you in the room?

It’s good that they supposedly met today on June 11th, when the deal was made June 3rd. Should we expect an overpayment to be hammered out by the 18th?

When you trade for the rights to a player, shouldn’t the priority of the organization to sign the player as soon as humanly possible? Not one week after the trade is made?
- SuperSchennBros

No but neither was flyers feed in the room for anything whatsoever either. However it was known he was visiting Philly this week. He met with our people yesterday and supposedly the talks “ramped up considerably” and Fletcher/Flyers want a deal figured out before the draft.

I “complain” because Kevin Hayes isn’t that good. He isn’t a difference maker and yet we have to have him. Why? If I’m hearing a 30 goal scorer at a cheaper cost with term and a balanced two way game like Kadri could be shipped out of Toronto, what do I want with Kevin Hayes?

What your comments boil down to is, you don’t like that I don’t like the player we’re choosing to go after. I don’t see any other teams trading for the rights for any other average players.
- SuperSchennBros

Fair to debate if he is the right target, I don’t think he is average or not that good. You don’t put up 55 points and not be that good, his size is not average, his puck control is not average. He is a good center and a very food 2c-3c considering short and long term. Is he the right fit, that is a good debate

I “complain” because Kevin Hayes isn’t that good. He isn’t a difference maker and yet we have to have him. Why? If I’m hearing a 30 goal scorer at a cheaper cost with term and a balanced two way game like Kadri could be shipped out of Toronto, what do I want with Kevin Hayes?

What your comments boil down to is, you don’t like that I don’t like the player we’re choosing to go after. I don’t see any other teams trading for the rights for any other average players.
- SuperSchennBros

Kadri comes with baggage of being suspended several times, most recently in a very important playoff series. He also costs you more valuable assets compared to trading just a 5th round pick. If you want Kadri you can kiss one of young dmen goodbye. Hayes is also a good 2 way player like Kadri. If Kevin Hayes isn’t that good then why were so many teams eager to add him for the playoffs Last year? How often have you even watched the guy play?

Kadri comes with baggage of being suspended several times, most recently in a very important playoff series. He also costs you more valuable assets compared to trading just a 5th round pick. If you want Kadri you can kiss one of young dmen goodbye. Hayes is also a good 2 way player like Kadri. If Kevin Hayes isn’t that good then why were so many teams eager to add him for the playoffs Last year? How often have you even watched the guy play?
- arichardson22

Hayes addresses a lot of the team's needs. Just because he isn't flashy doesn't mean he's not going to have a big impact on the team. The argument doesn't make sense. The team badly needs a 2C, size, and help on the PK. He checks every box.

No but neither was flyers feed in the room for anything whatsoever either. However it was known he was visiting Philly this week. He met with our people yesterday and supposedly the talks “ramped up considerably” and Fletcher/Flyers want a deal figured out before the draft.
- arichardson22

Okay, so who is this source and were they in the room? Since the 3rd of this month, fans have asked everyday, why isn’t Hayes signed yet? It’s a reasonable question.

Kadri comes with baggage of being suspended several times, most recently in a very important playoff series. He also costs you more valuable assets compared to trading just a 5th round pick. If you want Kadri you can kiss one of young dmen goodbye. Hayes is also a good 2 way player like Kadri. If Kevin Hayes isn’t that good then why were so many teams eager to add him for the playoffs Last year? How often have you even watched the guy play?
- arichardson22

Simple. He was an available player on an expiring contract. This happens literally every year.

The Flyers have had plenty of players with a history of Suspensions. That’s just an excuse. Kadri is by far the better player and depending on big a piece the Leafs would be asking for, I wouldn’t mind paying that price.

Hayes addresses a lot of the team's needs. Just because he isn't flashy doesn't mean he's not going to have a big impact on the team. The argument doesn't make sense. The team badly needs a 2C, size, and help on the PK. He checks every box.
- hereticpride

A lot of players can do everything you just stated. Hayes isn’t this hidden gem. If he were this big impact player, the Rangers would have kept him.

Okay, so who is this source and were they in the room? Since the 3rd of this month, fans have asked everyday, why isn’t Hayes signed yet? It’s a reasonable question.
- SuperSchennBros

Frank Seravalli & Jason Myretus. The same reason why Streit and Bryz weren’t signed yet. Not everything is done instantly. Maybe the guy was on vacation or enjoying some time of in the summer like normal human being? It’s reasonable to assume they wanted to do in-person discussions for his potential contract rather on the phone.

Simple. He was an available player on an expiring contract. This happens literally every year.

The Flyers have had plenty of players with a history of Suspensions. That’s just an excuse. Kadri is by far the better player and depending on big a piece the Leafs would be asking for, I wouldn’t mind paying that price.
- SuperSchennBros

No poop Sherlock, but he was considered a top rental and has been labeled the 2nd best center in free agency this summer only behind Duchene. why take away from our prospects, core or even a high draft pick for Kadri when it costs minimal to add Hayes to compliment our current guys?

The site seriously needs an ignore button.

And this has nothing to do with pace of play and the physical needs of the NHL.

I am not saying he doesn't have talent. But lots of guys have talent. It will be a totally different game for him just moving to the AHL. Speed of the game mentally will be faster.

He can get by on pure talent at the junior level.
- J35Bacher

Remember when people said the same thing about Carter Hart. I'm not saying Frost is Hart, but Frost doesn't coast... he slows play down which worked in juniors but can also make plays at speed, which when mandated by the Flyers he worked on doing more.

Do I think Frost could be an asset on a playoff team, yes. Will it hurt him to earn the spot and if he doesn't earn it to take a year in the AHL nope.

As far as why he was drafted where he was, his draft year was a very deep year, and some people believed he produced mainly because of the talent he was playing with at the time. Since then Frost has only received 2 top scorer and 2 MVP for his team and was a finalist for OHL MVP. Lead OHL for points per game and was 1 point behind the WJC top scorer playing 2 fewer games in his first international tournament, playing out of position on a 3rd line. So I think its safe to say that if there was a redraft he would likely go much higher.

Remember when people said the same thing about Carter Hart. I'm not saying Frost is Hart, but Frost doesn't coast... he slows play down which worked in juniors but can also make plays at speed, which when mandated by the Flyers he worked on doing more.

Do I think Frost could be an asset on a playoff team, yes. Will it hurt him to earn the spot and if he doesn't earn it to take a year in the AHL nope.

As far as why he was drafted where he was, his draft year was a very deep year, and some people believed he produced mainly because of the talent he was playing with at the time. Since then Frost has only received 2 top scorer and 2 MVP for his team and was a finalist for OHL MVP. Lead OHL for points per game and was 1 point behind the WJC top scorer playing 2 fewer games in his first international tournament, playing out of position on a 3rd line. So I think its safe to say that if there was a redraft he would likely go much higher.
- youarewrong

cant wait for the flyers announcers to call him Frosty. Wonder what moniker they use for Farabee?

cant wait for the flyers announcers to call him Frosty. Wonder what moniker they use for Farabee?
- daryl stanley

i wish they would come up with more creative nicknames like they did in the old days. The Hound, Count, Rifle, Bundy.

Adding a Y sound to the end of their name just ain't cutting it.

Furby?

Remember when people said the same thing about Carter Hart. I'm not saying Frost is Hart, but Frost doesn't coast... he slows play down which worked in juniors but can also make plays at speed, which when mandated by the Flyers he worked on doing more.

Do I think Frost could be an asset on a playoff team, yes. Will it hurt him to earn the spot and if he doesn't earn it to take a year in the AHL nope.

As far as why he was drafted where he was, his draft year was a very deep year, and some people believed he produced mainly because of the talent he was playing with at the time. Since then Frost has only received 2 top scorer and 2 MVP for his team and was a finalist for OHL MVP. Lead OHL for points per game and was 1 point behind the WJC top scorer playing 2 fewer games in his first international tournament, playing out of position on a 3rd line. So I think its safe to say that if there was a redraft he would likely go much higher.
- youarewrong

And I get all that.

I am just saying because he did it in juniors doesn't mean it automatically translates at the NHL level.

If he earns a spot, great. But my opinion is he might need some AHL time to adjust.

And Hart was a little different as he was last option with all the injuries. He was basically forced into playing because I don't think he sees the NHL last year if Elliott and Neuvirth were actually healthy.

i wish they would come up with more creative nicknames like they did in the old days. The Hound, Count, Rifle, Bundy.

Adding a Y sound to the end of their name just ain't cutting it.

Furby?





- MBFlyerfan

Puff Nuts was my favorite.

I predict the Blues play a similar game as they did April 11 against the Flyers tonight. 5 goals in the first 9 minutes. Put it away early.

I like the idea of adding Hayes. He's a better player than he's given credit for and can play the PP and the PK, all while getting regular minutes. It also affords Patrick an opportunity to grow a bit. Not sure why everyone is worried about the price tag - 6 Mil is the going rate for a 2C, and signing him doesn't prevent the Flyers from making other moves.

The site seriously needs an ignore button.
- MBFlyerfan

Ya think??
LOL

Because even though you’ve traded for the guys rights, doesn’t mean it’s a slam dunk that he signs with you. If I’m a player and the choice to go anywhere including a Utopia like California comes calling or my home town, why should I listen to a team that is pretty much saying “we’ll get to you when we can”. I mean, this is my raise we’re talking about. I want it now. I wanna know it’s edged in stone. What are you going to do for me?
- SuperSchennBros

You don't know it isn't Hayes's people saying "We'll get to you when we can." And I'm pretty sure neither side is interested in exposing every text, phone call, and email to you for your approval.

I like the idea of adding Hayes. He's a better player than he's given credit for and can play the PP and the PK, all while getting regular minutes. It also affords Patrick an opportunity to grow a bit. Not sure why everyone is worried about the price tag - 6 Mil is the going rate for a 2C, and signing him doesn't prevent the Flyers from making other moves.
- 88Train

Again, I'm not as worried about the hit/term as I am about a possible NMC/NTC.

You don't know it isn't Hayes's people saying "We'll get to you when we can." And I'm pretty sure neither side is interested in exposing every text, phone call, and email to you for your approval.
- bodiva88

Were you in the room?!