hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I'm fine with it. At the end of the day a large portion of this roster needs to be re-tooled. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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And just wait til niskanen starts bobbing his head to the house music |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Man, the way some of you are acting, it's like we just traded Provorov for TJ Brennan.
It's a stop gap physical 5/6 defenseman for a stop gap "more skilled" 4/5 defenseman and our cap went up.
BURN IT ALL DOWN!!! |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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This move was the exact opposite of trading Ghost. They traded a player whose value was at a high point for a player whose value was at a low point, hoping that the player can bounce back to some extent.
It's not a game-changing move, but it's not giving Gudas away for nothing. - jmatchett383
Your right.
They are looking for a bounce back.
And I know he is not as physical as Gudas but it's not like he is void any physical play. Check out hits on Scott Laughton and JT Brown. |
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iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Spring Mount, PA Joined: 06.17.2007
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What is wrong with you people? When did Gudas become Pronger? Niskanen’s contract is only 2 more years. We gave up a career 3rd pairing defenseman that had a decent year last year, decent meaning he didn't take a poop ton of penalties and suspensions, for a multi cup winner defenseman that can show ghost, Provy, and Myers how to play a solid 2 way game.
Even if Niskanen is declining it’s only 2 seasons. This was a huge win at best, and a lateral move at worst. - youarewrong
All of this! It also has the potential to be a good trade if he can have a bounce back. We won't miss Gudas if Morin and Myers stay healthy and don't struggle. Lets at least wait until the games start though to condemn it. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Your right.
They are looking for a bounce back.
And I know he is not as physical as Gudas but it's not like he is void any physical play. Check out hits on Scott Laughton and JT Brown. - J35Bacher
I thought Laughton was paralyzed after that hit. |
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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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Is the outrage because Gudas should be extended? Or is there a notion Gudas had significantly more value then this return? If so, then what? |
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dramado
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Paradise, NF Joined: 03.16.2018
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25 points, -3, 7 mil cap hit
Game, set, jmatch - Just5
Yet we have people on here that think Ghost's -20 and whopping 37 points last years should get us a return of Domi after the stellar year he had. I find it so odd that everyone is down on a guy that had one minus year since 2011-12. Minus-3 isn't even that bad when you look at Provy and Ghost's numbers last season. Gudas has one decent year with easier matchups, and all of a sudden the Flyers got fleeced? The only issue anyone should have with this trade is the money retained. That being said, it's a short increased cap hit for us, and we get a vet who has won a cup. Should help our young D develop some more composure. |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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I thought Laughton was paralyzed after that hit. - jmatchett383
Everyone expects the Gostisbehere bounce back season but a solid veteran like Niskanen can't have one?
I could actually see a top 4 looking like this:
Provorov - Sanheim
Niskanen - Myers
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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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from "im ok with it" to this in under 10 minutes
impressive - Crimsoninja
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Is the outrage because Gudas should be extended? Or is there a notion Gudas had significantly more value then this return? If so, then what? - ravishingone
Imo it's great value for Gudas and I was personally ready to move on from him. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Imo it's great value for Gudas and I was personally ready to move on from him. - hereticpride
If nothing else, Niskanen is less likely to get a 10-game suspension for trying to behead a player who lightly jostled him. |
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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Was anyone under the impression Gudas was in the long term plans for the Flyers? He was gone next year anyway. |
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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gävle, Sweden Joined: 07.15.2014
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Gudas was ok in an unimportant meaningless run for the playoffs. General overall he has been a poopty goon bumhole player. His PO performance vs the pens was ugly as his beard. 🧔 |
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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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Imo it's great value for Gudas and I was personally ready to move on from him. - hereticpride
As mentioned earlier, all the young D appear to be returning. I believe the UFA D market is going to yield some really high prices. I want change on the roster, so I m good with changing the top 6. |
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Everyone expects the Gostisbehere bounce back season but a solid veteran like Niskanen can't have one?
I could actually see a top 4 looking like this:
Provorov - Sanheim
Niskanen - Myers - J35Bacher
Changing sides this far into his career??? |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Gudas was ok in an unimportant meaningless run for the playoffs. General overall he has been a poopty goon bumhole player. His PO performance vs the pens was ugly as his beard. 🧔 - Landsbergfan
I mean, I can't blame it all on one player, but I was done with him after Game 6 versus the Penguins. I didn't expect them to win that series (and game 3 and 4 were pathetic), but those 2 turnovers were plays that high school kids wouldn't make. |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Niskanen has a solid year and maybe he is taken in the expansion draft next year.
1 year at 5.75 for a top 4 guy could be attractive for the Seattle team depending on what other players are available |
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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gävle, Sweden Joined: 07.15.2014
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Blues won with 6 D mean all almost 7 feet tall. And almost 2000 pounds in weight!!! 🥳😂 |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Changing sides this far into his career??? - juiced
I was just putting names together but now thinking about it that would be two RH on one pair.
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Everyone expects the Gostisbehere bounce back season but a solid veteran like Niskanen can't have one?
I could actually see a top 4 looking like this:
Provorov - Sanheim
Niskanen - Myers - J35Bacher
They're not going to play two righties on the same pairing. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Niskanen has a solid year and maybe he is taken in the expansion draft next year.
1 year at 5.75 for a top 4 guy could be attractive for the Seattle team depending on what other players are available - J35Bacher
ED is in 2021. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Blues won with 6 D mean all almost 7 feet tall. And almost 2000 pounds in weight!!! 🥳😂 - Landsbergfan
Well, aside from the fact that only Parayko comes withing a half foot of 7 feet tall and their defensemen don't average anywhere near 333 pounds, yes, everything in this post is correct, as shown below:
"Blues won with 6 D men." |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Everyone expects the Gostisbehere bounce back season but a solid veteran like Niskanen can't have one?
I could actually see a top 4 looking like this:
Provorov - Sanheim
Niskanen - Myers - J35Bacher
Two lefties and two righties together? |
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