Agree with this 100%, and it doesn’t have to mean bone crushing checks. I really liked the Blues forwards defensive play last night.
Bruins got very few free passes out of their end. They clogged the neutral zone and didn’t allow many easy entries into their zone. - walleyeb1
Yes. You win 100% of the puck battles in your own end if you prevent them from happening... i.e. stopping the opposing team before they gain the blue line. Hawks could take a lot of pressure off the D if they could defend better in the middle.
If teams have to dump it in more, then the mobile guys on the back end pay off more in getting to those pucks (along with a goalie that can handle the puck, something the Hawks lacked in a big way when CC was out).
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Kudos to you guys who did this and contrats Ogi! - breadbag
Usually I pick the teams I want to win and I lose. So this year I decided to do the Costanza reverse logic method. So unfortunately the only reason I won is because I picked the two teams I least wanted to see in the final.
Yes. You win 100% of the puck battles in your own end if you prevent them from happening... i.e. stopping the opposing team before they gain the blue line. Hawks could take a lot of pressure off the D if they could defend better in the middle.
If teams have to dump it in more, then the mobile guys on the back end pay off more in getting to those pucks (along with a goalie that can handle the puck, something the Hawks lacked in a big way when CC was out). - breadbag
Yeah was watching with a friend last night and we were talking about how well Binnington handled the puck.
What do you think Jacob Nilsson's chances are at 4C if for some reason Kampf was out of the picture? (Trade/injury or whatever) - breadbag
No reasson to go sign or trade for someone if Colliton speaks highly of J Nilsson. All I would expect is a good showing if there is a long.term injury. He is good for 15 - 20 goals if he plays regularly.
Yeah was watching with a friend last night and we were talking about how well Binnington handled the puck. - walleyeb1
It is often overlooked because there isn't a common stat for it, but some goalies save their team so many headaches by making smart plays. Versus some others who just stay in the net or panic and send their team a hand grenade pass.... It isn't all the time that it matters, but if they make a good play that extra 3-4 times a game, I'm sure it adds up.
No reasson to go sign or trade for someone if Colliton speaks highly of J Nilsson. All I would expect is a good showing if there is a long.term injury. He is good for 15 - 20 goals if he plays regularly. - jhawk59
I'm just curious if he might be the backup plan if Kampf is not going to sign or they trade him or something. I've noticed the each had similar AHL production and I seem to recall that Nilsson was the touted top forward or MVP for the Hogs last year. (unless I'm remembering wrong).
Personally, I'm not sure he is more than a 4th line guy, he didn't get much of a look when he was called up for a couple games.
I suppose my vision of things is one where they work with what they have and try to balance and distribute across the four lines. Bottom line is that they don't have enough horses today truly qualified to fill out a more traditional forward schema.
Maybe at least they find out if Perlini is for real or not, and if Kurashev and Kubalik have a place. Kubalik's prior history playing with Kampf....the chemistry thing seems to play a role in SB's thinking of late. Not to mention Kubalik is no smurf. - Return of the Roar
They have the most important piece to a checking line though - an extremely good defensive center who can transition well. Kampf has no hands so I'm not super fond on putting him with guys who are hopefully meant to score.
Last quarter of the season, the team had a 1-2a-2b-4 line rolling in terms of usage/deployment. Toews-Kane got traditional top line deployment/usage, Saad-Anisimov were 2A in terms of TOI and QOC (say 1-2L quality of comp), and Cat-Strome got optimized OZS against lower QOC (they were closer to the Bickell-Shaw-Stalberg 2013 line for usage/deployment but with more minutes). Kahun was an excellent compliment to Saad-AA because he is a playmaker who could feed shot volume players.
To at least start the season and with no idea who they might pick up, I'd have the lines setup pretty close to how they were last year. They only difference being I'd like to see if Kubalik, who plays a similar style as Sharp (though how effective, we don't know yet), could work with Toews-Kane. Caggiula did work well with them for a short time so he could go back there as well, but it's be pretty great to have Cagg-Kampf as the start to a good checking line because both are defensively responsible and transition well while having limited offense.
This gives Perlini the chance to see if he real or not, like you suggest, and if not, Kubalik could slide down there and Caggs back up. Or others rotate in, who knows. I'd love if they could find a legit 4th checking line and think they have some options to at least start.
I was catching up on the last blog this morning, and there was a conversation about the cap recapture penalty contracts. If Luongo retires, Vancouver gets hit with the penalty. Same with Weber in MTL, Nashville would get the penalty. I think most players that have those contracts will either play them out for the team that signed them, or go on LTIR, but I wonder if the players who were traded will retire to stick it to their old team.
They have the most important piece to a checking line though - an extremely good defensive center who can transition well. Kampf has no hands so I'm not super fond on putting him with guys who are hopefully meant to score.
Last quarter of the season, the team had a 1-2a-2b-4 line rolling in terms of usage/deployment. Toews-Kane got traditional top line deployment/usage, Saad-Anisimov were 2A in terms of TOI and QOC (say 1-2L quality of comp), and Cat-Strome got optimized OZS against lower QOC (they were closer to the Bickell-Shaw-Stalberg 2013 line for usage/deployment but with more minutes). Kahun was an excellent compliment to Saad-AA because he is a playmaker who could feed shot volume players.
To at least start the season and with no idea who they might pick up, I'd have the lines setup pretty close to how they were last year. They only difference being I'd like to see if Kubalik, who plays a similar style as Sharp (though how effective, we don't know yet), could work with Toews-Kane. Caggiula did work well with them for a short time so he could go back there as well, but it's be pretty great to have Cagg-Kampf as the start to a good checking line because both are defensively responsible and transition well while having limited offense.
This gives Perlini the chance to see if he real or not, like you suggest, and if not, Kubalik could slide down there and Caggs back up. Or others rotate in, who knows. I'd love if they could find a legit 4th checking line and think they have some options to at least start.
I mean, that's just how I'd start the lines based on last year's data / limited knowledge of an incoming player. It's possible that Kubalik-Kampf-Kahun could be a good line option - I just personally don't have much hope for Kampf to be an offensive contributor and that he might in fact limit those who are (like Kahun and hopefully Kubalik).
Plus I just really like Kampf as a shutdown/checking line option lol.
I mean, that's just how I'd start the lines based on last year's data / limited knowledge of an incoming player. It's possible that Kubalik-Kampf-Kahun could be a good line option - I just personally don't have much hope for Kampf to be an offensive contributor and that he might in fact limit those who are (like Kahun and hopefully Kubalik).
Plus I just really like Kampf as a shutdown/checking line option lol. - L_B_R
I was just playing around, but Tanev really is a spark plug, or maybe a human pinball. I mean how does a player register 278 hits in one season?
I was just playing around, but Tanev really is a spark plug, or maybe a human pinball. I mean how does a player register 278 hits in one season? - walleyeb1
The Drake - Kampf - Tanev has the potential to be a fantastic 4th line.
I was just playing around, but Tanev really is a spark plug, or maybe a human pinball. I mean how does a player register 278 hits in one season? - walleyeb1
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I was catching up on the last blog this morning, and their was a conversation about the cap recapture penalty contracts. If Luongo retires, Vancouver gets hit with the penalty. Same with Weber in MTL, Nashville would get the penalty. I think most players that have those contracts will either play them out for the team that signed them, or go on LTIR, but I wonder if the players who were traded will retire to stick it to their old team. - tvetter
But they would also be "sticking it" to themselves - they would be giving up however-many-years of actual cash payments, however much below their cap hits.
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They have the most important piece to a checking line though - an extremely good defensive center who can transition well. Kampf has no hands so I'm not super fond on putting him with guys who are hopefully meant to score.
Last quarter of the season, the team had a 1-2a-2b-4 line rolling in terms of usage/deployment. Toews-Kane got traditional top line deployment/usage, Saad-Anisimov were 2A in terms of TOI and QOC (say 1-2L quality of comp), and Cat-Strome got optimized OZS against lower QOC (they were closer to the Bickell-Shaw-Stalberg 2013 line for usage/deployment but with more minutes). Kahun was an excellent compliment to Saad-AA because he is a playmaker who could feed shot volume players.
To at least start the season and with no idea who they might pick up, I'd have the lines setup pretty close to how they were last year. They only difference being I'd like to see if Kubalik, who plays a similar style as Sharp (though how effective, we don't know yet), could work with Toews-Kane. Caggiula did work well with them for a short time so he could go back there as well, but it's be pretty great to have Cagg-Kampf as the start to a good checking line because both are defensively responsible and transition well while having limited offense.
This gives Perlini the chance to see if he real or not, like you suggest, and if not, Kubalik could slide down there and Caggs back up. Or others rotate in, who knows. I'd love if they could find a legit 4th checking line and think they have some options to at least start.
I was just playing around, but Tanev really is a spark plug, or maybe a human pinball. I mean how does a player register 278 hits in one season? - walleyeb1
Oh, if he's good defensively, then a Caggiula-Kampf-Tanev checking line would be stellar.
No room for Sikura? Don't know if he would be the "xx" on your fourth line - probably not - but maybe slots in instead of Perlini. - StLBravesFan
I like Sikura a lot (though he was a quick study away from the puck) but they're forward heavy. If Perlini doesn't cut it, Kahun had good chemistry with Debrincat-Strome so Sikura could slide with Saad.
