Tanev sounds like the ideal player then. So how much will he cost Stan? We have the cap space..
- RedRevenge

Somewhere around 3 years for at 2.5M to 3M per year?

Somewhere around 3 years for at 2.5M to 3M per year?
- boilermaker100

That's what I would expect.

For what its worth, EK reporting that Hayes may not be thrilled to be in Philly. Wonder if he chooses not to sign with them.

Somewhere around 3 years for at 2.5M to 3M per year?
- boilermaker100

I have him at 3M for 4 years as a top offer for a guy like him.

My comparibles are those of Roussel and Beagle in Vancouver last year.

Or a guy like Riley Nash for $2.75M / 3 years.

I know Beagle and Nash are centres which drive the price, but I think that's the range he's in.

For what its worth, EK reporting that Hayes may not be thrilled to be in Philly. Wonder if he chooses not to sign with them.
- z1990z

Also, EK posted this:

On Gostisbehere for Kadri...
It is probably entirely connected to the uncertainty of the Hayes situation that this rumor is
gaining some steam. Kadri fits a need for the Flyers by giving them a second center with grit.
The Flyers were one of the least penalized teams and too easy to play against on many nights…

--

I'm not advocating it, but for those looking at Kadri as an option to boost CHI's centre depth, you might be looking at Erik Gustafsson for Nazem straight up.

Also, EK posted this:

On Gostisbehere for Kadri...
It is probably entirely connected to the uncertainty of the Hayes situation that this rumor is
gaining some steam. Kadri fits a need for the Flyers by giving them a second center with grit.
The Flyers were one of the least penalized teams and too easy to play against on many nights…

--

I'm not advocating it, but for those looking at Kadri as an option to boost CHI's centre depth, you might be looking at Erik Gustafsson for Nazem straight up.
- Tyler Cameron

I would do it. Toronto gets 3.3M in cap relief and get an offensive Dman to replace Gardiner for a year.

Wonder if the Marc Crawford assistant coach addition is an indication of the Hawks adding some sandpaper and red ass to the roster this upcoming season. Maybe the Hawks realize what Berube and Ott have brought to the Blues and feel the need to compete along those lines?

I have him at 3M for 4 years as a top offer for a guy like him.

My comparibles are those of Roussel and Beagle in Vancouver last year.

Or a guy like Riley Nash for $2.75M / 3 years.

I know Beagle and Nash are centres which drive the price, but I think that's the range he's in.
- Tyler Cameron

Sounds reasonable and not too much term for a 27 year old, just no NMC.

Tanev made 2.2mil last year (bonuses included)

His starting point will probably be 3mil plus, in the 4yr range as suggested. For a 4th liner RW only.

For what its worth, EK reporting that Hayes may not be thrilled to be in Philly. Wonder if he chooses not to sign with them.
- z1990z

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

Tyler, thanks for that intel on Hayes...just curious why he is interested in the Hawks after he decided not to sign with us after college? any intel on that or what your opinion is?

Tanev made 2.2mil last year (bonuses included)

His starting point will probably be 3mil plus, in the 4yr range as suggested. For a 4th liner RW only.
- PatShart

Cap Friendly shows his 2018-2019 contract at 1.15M without any signing/performance bonuses for a total of 1.15M.

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

So what changed to make him want to come to Chicago after he went UFA after college? Did he have a beef with Q?

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

If he comes in, do you think for sure AA is gone to offset the cost?

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

His agent is probably playing one team off another, hoping that Philly sweetens their offer. I thought Hayes and Alain Vigneault had a good relationship in New York. Makes sense that he signs with Philly with AV there now. Hayes is probably looking for another 1M/year from the Flyers.

So what changed to make him want to come to Chicago after he went UFA after college? Did he have a beef with Q?
- tvetter

I could be wrong, but I thought it was about him wanting to get to the NHL sooner and he felt Chicago was not going to have a spot for him.

Wiz,

Did you watch last night? At one point with the Blues up, ROR is skating back through the neutral zone as Boston is breaking out of their end. A pass starts from the far wall near their blueline headed to the near wall (as you look at the tv) where another Bruin is streaking. ROR picks the pass out of mid air, corrals it just past the red line and bring it back the other way, allowing them to get the puck deep again and burn more time.

This, imho, is one of those subtle plays that lead to winning. They don't show on the scoresheet other than maybe a takeaway but they directly contribute to winning.
- Jason Millen

This is going back some and I will promote my good eyes as well...I watched the World challenge 2009 and this guy with a great wall game and stick big solid bottom that anchored him ----stuck out for me, named Ryan ORelly. I added him to my early second round and so did Colorado.
Yeah, it is little things that strike you, and sometimes they are profound identifiers of what the future MAY bring.

It is really nice to think the size weight and skill set as juniors helps get the first determinations but like Podkolzin,. you can beat up a guy for some technical skating issues or how is head bends, but that HEART and determination to continuing each shift looking for a way to make on on-ice determination.

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

Hayes may be interested in Chicago, but the more important question is Chicago interested in Hayes?

For what it's worth (and the source isn't 100% validated) I just heard that Hayes is legit interested in Chicago.

He might have another team or two on his list and might wait until free agency vs. signing with PHI.
- Tyler Cameron

Hmmmm maybe we see a Kevin Hayes FA deal when the day comes. You would have to think that Philly reached out to Hayes to gauge his willingness to sign a new deal.

Wonder if the Marc Crawford assistant coach addition is an indication of the Hawks adding some sandpaper and red ass to the roster this upcoming season. Maybe the Hawks realize what Berube and Ott have brought to the Blues and feel the need to compete along those lines?
- boilermaker100

I also wondered if they made this move to entice some certain upas to come June 1st.

So what changed to make him want to come to Chicago after he went UFA after college? Did he have a beef with Q?
- tvetter

Maybe he realized that his brother was just mad at not breaking the lineup and getting traded? He was just a kid, maybe he just wanted to play closer to home?

Tanev is the ideal UFA to fill the Hawks have. He averaged 2:08 on the PK (second only to Lowry among Jets forwards) and 14+ minutes per night overall on a stacked team. Tanev let the Jets in hits with 278 (Seabrook has the most on the Hawks with 124) and he averaged 1 blocked shot per game (1st among Jets forwards, Strome and Johnson led Hawks forwards with 0.6/game ).
- DarthKane

He would be okay. Part of me wonders if they don't already have their own version of him in a guy like Johnson or in Entwistle/Hagel which only cost them ELC level cap space. Allowing them to use the cap space for something bigger in nature.

Tanev made 2.2mil last year (bonuses included)

His starting point will probably be 3mil plus, in the 4yr range as suggested. For a 4th liner RW only.
- PatShart

Tanev averaged amounts 14.5 minutes per game last year and he was one of two key PK forwards for the Jets. I watched most of the Jets playoffs games this season and Tanev’s line (with Lowry) was consistently effective and awesome on the forecheck. $3 million for 4 years... DONE.

I have him at 3M for 4 years as a top offer for a guy like him.

My comparibles are those of Roussel and Beagle in Vancouver last year.

Or a guy like Riley Nash for $2.75M / 3 years.

I know Beagle and Nash are centres which drive the price, but I think that's the range he's in.
- Tyler Cameron

4 years is too long for a bottom line role player. 1-2 year contract is ideal. Those guys are interchangeable, imo. Look at a guy like Nordstrom. Good guy to have on your team but in no way am I giving him a multi-year contract.

He would be okay. Part of me wonders if they don't already have their own version of him in a guy like Johnson or in Entwistle/Hagel which only cost them ELC level cap space. Allowing them to use the cap space for something bigger in nature.
- Elbows15

Johnson struggles last year while Entwistle and Hagel are unproven and likely a couple years away from being NHL ready.

Cap Friendly shows his 2018-2019 contract at 1.15M without any signing/performance bonuses for a total of 1.15M.
- boilermaker100

FYI. Only two type of contracts can have performance bonuses. ELCs and over 35 contracts.

Any contract can have signing bonuses built into them like quite a few players have done in recent years. As you probably know, its just them getting a percentage of their yearly salary upfront.