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senstroll
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Jun 14 @ 12:27 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun · 47s48 seconds ago


Hearing from a few sources that the Maple Leafs have quietly been shopping Garret Sparks. The backup goalie, 25, has one year left on his deal paying him $750k.

- PatC80


But why...he has to have like 0.0 value
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
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Jun 14 @ 12:27 PM ET
But why...he has to have like 0.0 value
- senstroll


I'm guessing for a made up 8th rd pick.. Also known as; "future considerations"
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yeah, I'm not sure what to think of that contract.

For what Eberle can be, it's not bad. But will he be that player?

- prock

Dunno, crystal ball is broken.
But he certainly can be a 50 pt player
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

Jun 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Problem is he's signed 29-34, so he may be.
- RogerRoeper



Its amazing your trying really hard to downplay this deal, unless you have a crystal ball and can predict the future, Ebs is a diff type of player, not a banger which would hinder so lets keep up to date and lets see how this deal plays out, ok Nostradamus
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
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Jun 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Dunno, crystal ball is broken.
But he certainly can be a 50 pt player

- Fakepartofme



it's possible. If he does consistently hit 50 points, does that make him worth the 5.5?

Or do you think he needs more like 60+
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
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Jun 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Its amazing your trying really hard to downplay this deal, unless you have a crystal ball and can predict the future, Ebs is a diff type of player, not a banger which would hinder so lets keep up to date and lets see how this deal plays out, ok Nostradamus
- Hell_Bent


I don't really care what Roeper's agenda is, but it's a valid point. 29 is generally the end of a players prime.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jun 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
But why...he has to have like 0.0 value
- senstroll

Might be for the player himself. Like Z and Patty...and Marner
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
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Jun 14 @ 12:37 PM ET
I don't really care what Roeper's agenda is, but it's a valid point. 29 is generally the end of a players prime.
- prock



More so on bangers Lucic, Neal, etc, not so much on fluid skaters but a decline can happen, we shall see
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 12:42 PM ET
it's possible. If he does consistently hit 50 points, does that make him worth the 5.5?

Or do you think he needs more like 60+

- prock

5 - 5.5m per for 50pts seem like the going rate no?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 12:42 PM ET
Eberle is a nice player - but he was Nylander prototype v0.553

0 heart and invisible most of the time - getting his points on back of his linemates (Barzal and Tavares previously in Eberle's case - before that because of Hall).
That's a bad signing by NYI.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
More so on bangers Lucic, Neal, etc, not so much on fluid skaters but a decline can happen, we shall see
- Hell_Bent


Statistically, 29 is the end of a players prime, regardless of the type of player they are.

True, some bangers will completely break down, but ALL players slow down when they hit their 30s.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
Eberle is a nice player - but he was Nylander prototype v0.553

0 heart and invisible most of the time - getting his points on back of his linemates (Barzal and Tavares previously in Eberle's case - before that because of Hall).
That's a bad signing by NYI.

- MaximusAurelius


I'm not so sure. It's not like $5M buys elite players any more.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'm not so sure. It's not like $5M buys elite players any more.
- prock

It's the wild, wacky world of pro sports.

You may not like giving him that much money and that much term, but the alternative is letting him walk and not being able to replace the talent.

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
It's the wild, wacky world of pro sports.

You may not like giving him that much money and that much term, but the alternative is letting him walk and not being able to replace the talent.

- Atomic Wedgie



yep. And as I say, $5M doesn't buy you a superstar. hell it doesn't even buy you a first line player anymore. It's second line money.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Eberle is a nice player - but he was Nylander prototype v0.553

0 heart and invisible most of the time - getting his points on back of his linemates (Barzal and Tavares previously in Eberle's case - before that because of Hall).
That's a bad signing by NYI.

- MaximusAurelius


Would anyone take Eberle over Nylander right now?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 14 @ 1:07 PM ET
Would anyone take Eberle over Nylander right now?
- RogerRoeper


No, no chance. But he's making $2M less.

$1.5M I guess.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
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Jun 14 @ 1:08 PM ET
No, no chance. But he's making $2M less.
- prock


Because he's older and not as talented.

6.9 for ages 22-28 vs 5.5 for ages 29-34.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
Because he's older and not as talented.

6.9 for ages 22-28 vs 5.5 for ages 29-34.

- RogerRoeper



I don't care to compare him to Nylander. It's apples and oranges. RFA vs UFA, 22 year old vs 29.

I'm not sure I would want Eberle at $5.5M, but not saying I'd be hard against it either.

I'm kind of iffy on it. Even if someone doesn't like the contract, I don't look at it and think it's horrendous.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun · 47s48 seconds ago


Hearing from a few sources that the Maple Leafs have quietly been shopping Garret Sparks. The backup goalie, 25, has one year left on his deal paying him $750k.

- PatC80

If I put my garbage out on the curb, am I having a yard sale?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
It is obvious that Dubas has no idea of what he is doing with his signing of Willie.

...This is Sarcasm... Edited for Roger


I predict Willies deal becomes a bargain in the future.

JMO, if we are still allowed to have an opinion on this site.
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
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Joined: 05.06.2019

Jun 14 @ 1:12 PM ET
Would anyone take Eberle over Nylander right now?
- RogerRoeper


You are trying to compare a 29yr old to a 22yr old??

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=96639

Eberle has similar stats at same age as Willy while playing in/on a worse team/franchise

Stop reaching, ok

Everyone will always take the younger player who produces
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:15 PM ET
It is obvious that Dubas has no idea of what he is doing with his signing of Willie.

I predict Willies deal becomes a bargain in the future.


JMO, if we are still allowed to have an opinion on this site.

- bixll
hummm
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
hummm
- RogerRoeper



Sarcasm Roger... Do I need to post a sign.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
I remember that.. After it happened, the players laughed uncontrollably for about 12 minutes because Nylander finally hit something.

Then, when they all stopped laughing, Sparks was standing up again and Matthews started comparing Nylander to MacKinnon.

- PatC80


So you are saying Nylander is as good as Mackinnon?
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 1:18 PM ET

Since Duchene came into the league, he's 89th in points per game, right behind Tim Connolly and Alex Frolov.
He just had a career year you say? Okay, but he still tied for 35th in ppg.

Can't wait for someone to sign him for 7x10.5
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