I think you're undervaluing Risto and overvaluing kadri. If you think Kadri is getting 30 goals and 60 points on this team, I have a new peace bridge to sell you. I'd wager Risto scoring 55p on WPG over Kadri scoring 55p on the Sabres
- jcragcrumple

I am done with guys that are big and fast but thin between the ears. To be fair to risto he has been through a lot here and could use a change.

Yikes.

You think Risto is taking PP1 time from Byfuglien?
- OneKaneOneCup

Any team trading for Risto should be smart enough to give him 60-65% o zone starts and pp1 time. There's no reason to make a trade otherwise. If a team does that, they'll get 55+ points and a reasonable +/-

Yikes.

You think Risto is taking PP1 time from Byfuglien?
- OneKaneOneCup

Fu*k off Harrington

I am done with guys that are big and fast but thin between the ears. To be fair to risto he has been through a lot here and could use a change.
- Slump Buster

That doesn't mean you trade him for a 29 year old with ego issues. For the record, I'm fine with trading for Kadri, but Risto is a massive overpay

I think you're undervaluing Risto and overvaluing kadri. If you think Kadri is getting 30 goals and 60 points on this team, I have a new peace bridge to sell you. I'd wager Risto scoring 55p on WPG over Kadri scoring 55p on the Sabres
- jcragcrumple

You're overvaluing Risto. He is the worst player in the grouping of Kadri, Trouba and Ehlers.

Imo, they don't need him. Another bloated contract.
- Powerslave

Like skinner is now. Really good player but horrible contract

Any team trading for Risto should be smart enough to give him 60-65% o zone starts and pp1 time. There's no reason to make a trade otherwise. If a team does that, they'll get 55+ points and a reasonable +/-
- jcragcrumple

Not what you want out of a guy that isn't a top pairing d.

You're overvaluing Risto. He is the worst player in the grouping of Kadri, Trouba and Ehlers.
- Mentalorgasm5

By a good margin too

You're overvaluing Risto. He is the worst player in the grouping of Kadri, Trouba and Ehlers.
- Mentalorgasm5

He's definitely a more useful player than Ehlers. He's definitely worse than Trouba. I guess there's room for debate on Kadri, but I wouldn't do the deal

Like skinner is now. Really good player but horrible contract
- Fattony1187

Nothing like that.

The Sabres need Skinner. The Yankees don't need Stanton. There's your difference.

He's definitely a more useful player than Ehlers. He's definitely worse than Trouba. I guess there's room for debate on Kadri, but I wouldn't do the deal
- jcragcrumple

I'd trade risto straight up for ehlers.

Not what you want out of a guy that isn't a top pairing d.
- Slump Buster

I'm still not handing Toronto a bonafide top pair dman in Trouba to acquire bonehead Kadri

That doesn't mean you trade him for a 29 year old with ego issues. For the record, I'm fine with trading for Kadri, but Risto is a massive overpay
- jcragcrumple

Bet you no leaf fans would take just risto for kadri

Bet you no leaf fans would take just risto for kadri
- Mentalorgasm5

Perfect

Opinions on Maata seem to be all over the place

Opinions on Maata seem to be all over the place
- OneKaneOneCup

I believe advanced stats say his goodness or lack thereof is dependent on the quality of his defense partner?

Opinions on Maata seem to be all over the place
- OneKaneOneCup

I feel like the Blackhawks got hosed. Kahun will put up 53 points this year.

Was impressive as a rookie last year.

Trade seems a little off from CHI perspective

I don’t know too much about Kahun but 37 points mostly at EV as a rookie seems really solid
- OneKaneOneCup

a CHL player ?? Makes sense

I believe advanced stats say his goodness or lack thereof is dependent on the quality of his defense partner?
- kingcong39

Well the advanced stats people seem to be all over the place

WAR/GAR has him ranked high, the guy that does the heat map/shot visuals has him as below average.

Sabres should look into shipping out Bogo and Scandella, while bringing in honka.

You don't hand Trouba to Toronto like that. If Toronto is getting Trouba, then Buffalo should get Kadri and Ehlers.

I wouldn't trade Risto for Kadri straight up, and I sure wouldn't help hand Toronto Trouba
- jcragcrumple

I think all 3 players have similar value.

I like risto and kadri
2d and 2c

Trouba brings the big contract extension/ big pay day

Well the advanced stats people seem to be all over the place

WAR/GAR has him ranked high, the guy that does the heat map/shot visuals has him as below average.
- OneKaneOneCup

GAR ranks him behind Larsson, Mittelstadt, and Pilut. He's a net negative off the PP.

Of course, GAR ranks Skinner, Pommer and ERod ahead of Eichel at 5v5. It has serious issues.

I think all 3 players have similar value.

I like risto and kadri
2d and 2c

Trouba brings the big contract extension/ big pay day
- Boss34

Trouba's value is head and shoulders above Kadri. To help Toronto acquire Trouba is suicide

I feel like the Blackhawks got hosed. Kahun will put up 53 points this year.

Was impressive as a rookie last year.
- Mentalorgasm5

Kahun's 2 most common linemates last year were Toews and Debrincat?

GAR ranks him behind Larsson, Mittelstadt, and Pilut. He's a net negative off the PP.

Of course, GAR ranks Skinner, Pommer and ERod ahead of Eichel at 5v5. It has serious issues.
- Lunaion

Factoring in penalty differential feels...less important regarding those stats.

Those that believe in GAR and WAR are almost slave to it.