So ? If you can teach Ov how to play D you can do the same with laine and he will score 45-50 a year
- gerbe75pts

Oh I’m sure he will get better as time goes on at D

But let’s not pretend Ovi is winning the Selke.

You’re getting Laine for goals

1 dimensional player that has been moved down the line several times


but I don't hate it, esp with pp goals and team speed needing to be improved

he would be a core piece moving forward, perhaps the end of reinhart as a sabre
- homiedclown

I’d rather keep Reinhart

So ? If you can teach Ov how to play D you can do the same with laine and he will score 45-50 a year
- gerbe75pts

Ovechkin didn't learn to play D. He just scores consistently enough at all game states to make it worth how useless he is defensively.

Laine hasn't been doing that in recent years.

laine is interesting
- homiedclown

Botterill seems pretty aggressive, the Laine one may not happen. Seems the Jets think Trouba is " Drew Doughty" for what they are asking for him. There are a few players like Zucker, Toffoli and Vesey they are looking into I was told. Riley Sheahan may be another for the 3rd or 4th line.

laine is interesting
- homiedclown

With a hefty price tag (to obtain and sign).

With a hefty price tag (to obtain and sign).
- dadeadhead

both , that's why Botterill was just poking around, Laine thinks he's a 10 mill a year player.

Ovechkin didn't learn to play D. He just scores consistently enough at all game states to make it worth how useless he is defensively.

Laine hasn't been doing that in recent years.
- Sabresfan-365

I think you need to look at your charts ov has improved his D

I was told. Riley Sheahan may be another for the 3rd or 4th line.
- SABRES 89

I would have so much fun with this


probably the end of lockport larry if this happens

both , that's why Botterill was just poking around, Laine thinks he's a 10 mill a year player.
- SABRES 89

He is 10m if skinner is 9

With a hefty price tag (to obtain and sign).
- dadeadhead

yeah they better be sold on him because the blue print is not 29 mil on your top line and fill in the gaps on the cheap

He is 10m if skinner is 9
- gerbe75pts

As of today, Skinner is undoubtedly better than Laine

Botterill seems pretty aggressive, the Laine one may not happen. Seems the Jets think Trouba is " Drew Doughty" for what they are asking for him. There are a few players like Zucker, Toffoli and Vesey they are looking into I was told. Riley Sheahan may be another for the 3rd or 4th line.
- SABRES 89

Sounds like the end of Girgs, Larry, Sobotka and possibly Sheary?

Ovechkin didn't learn to play D. He just scores consistently enough at all game states to make it worth how useless he is defensively.

Laine hasn't been doing that in recent years.
- Sabresfan-365

Laine’s 3 seasons in the NHL he’s scored 36, 44, and 30. He will only get better as well. The issue with Laine, much alike Skinner, is that it will be a lot of dough for a one dimensional player.

Laine’s 3 seasons in the NHL he’s scored 36, 44, and 30. He will only get better as well. The issue with Laine, much alike Skinner, is that it will be a lot of dough for a one dimensional player.
- Pegullaville

Skinner has a "dog on a bone" mentality. Not sure Laine does

Yes
- Mentalorgasm5

Lol. I deserved that for sure.

The wording should have been,
Isn't that how they have deployed Risto that has enabled him to get his high offensive numbers?
As 1st pairing with lots of PP1 Time.

Not even remotely true.

I get you like Risto but that’s asinine

Karlsson is fantastic.

Ristolainen can’t out produce Bogosian
- OneKaneOneCup

Karlsson at 8 years for $88M is...not so fantastic.

Sounds like the end of Girgs, Larry, Sobotka and possibly Sheary?
- mhp

I haven't heard anything about any buyouts with the Sabres and Sobotka and or Okposo. I think Sheary stays, Botterill know's there is no way he can go into next season with the same roster or close to it.

Sabres and Rangers spoke 2 times regarding Vesey and also they talked to the Jets regarding Laine.
- SABRES 89

My pants would fly off if we somehow landed Laine.

Skinner has a "dog on a bone" mentality. Not sure Laine does
- jcragcrumple

I think he was just asking regarding Laine because that's the right thing to do however, he will cost a lot and I don't think they are looking another another 9-10 mill a year player, at least not yet.

I haven't heard anything about any buyouts with the Sabres and Sobotka and or Okposo. I think Sheary stays, Botterill know's there is no way he can go into next season with the same roster or close to it.
- SABRES 89

They don't have to extend QO on Girgs and Larry, if they choose. I think Larry goes to Sweden next year anyway. No reason to buy out Sobotka with 1 year left. I could see Sheary staying or maybe he's used as trade bait if they acquire Vesey.

The is "anyone can play PP" falacy as promoted by James Tanner. Being good at the PP is a skill, a skill that Risto has
- jcragcrumple

And the corollary is that everyone on the PP isn't necessarily good at it. Just how good Risto is at is open for debate. Is he a top 15 PP D in the league? Probably not.

Laine’s 3 seasons in the NHL he’s scored 36, 44, and 30. He will only get better as well. The issue with Laine, much alike Skinner, is that it will be a lot of dough for a one dimensional player.
- Pegullaville

**all game states

he had 13 goals at 5v5 this year. That's less than ideal

I think you need to look at your charts ov has improved his D
- gerbe75pts

I did, he's just as bad as he's always been defensively.

Dougie Hamilton had more goals at 5v5 than Laine

They don't have to extend QO on Girgs and Larry, if they choose. I think Larry goes to Sweden next year anyway. No reason to buy out Sobotka with 1 year left. I could see Sheary staying or maybe he's used as trade bait if they acquire Vesey.
- mhp

Well I see theres some good hockey discussion today.

This is my first post after lurking for many many years. I feel like Ive come to know many of the posters and could imagine my surprise if I actually met any of you.

Thanks to homie and 89 and 39 for their inside info

And to Gerbe always keeping it interesting and his info on prospects

And lets leave Buffalo Hard Hat out of the discussion.