Keeping Skinner and possibly getting Vesey is a win, win in my book.
- SABRES 89

I wouldn't mind Vesey, but it doesn't move the needle much in terms of upgrading the top 6 imo

Skinner better score 35+ every year cause paying a 50 point player $9M a year would be even worse then letting him go for nothing and adding another top 10 pick.
- Pegullaville

No more top 10 picks

Looking at the size of the Blues d-corps, I think we can get away with not having as much size up front as long as we have the size on the backend. Hopefully Borgen and Samuelsson pan out so in a few years our d-corps can look like this:

Dahlin-Borgen
Samuelsson-Montour
Pilut-Risto
- Pegullaville

Don't forget Laaksonen and Bryson

I wouldn't mind Vesey, but it doesn't move the needle much in terms of upgrading the top 6 imo
- jcragcrumple

Especially since he shouldn't be playing in the top 6

That would be valid if the goals he had a direct cause of letting in on 5 on 5 had more value than the goals he is scoring during a power play.

A goal is a goal. Notable exception is an empty goal.
- Mentalorgasm5

He had 17 PPG, not 70. Does 17 over 82 games make up for the fact that for roughly 14 mins a night when he's out on the ice the Jets average 13% fewer unblocked shots and concede 14% more?

Especially since he shouldn't be playing in the top 6
- Mentalorgasm5

Yeah. I view him more like a McGinn

Especially since he shouldn't be playing in the top 6
- Mentalorgasm5

W Karlsson to Habs E3 per EK

He had 17 PPG, not 70. Does 17 over 82 games make up for the fact that for roughly 14 mins a night when he's out on the ice the Jets average 13% fewer unblocked shots and concede 14% more?
- Sabresfan-365

If you're gonna start talking about the shots he is responsible for letting on net. Let's not talk about his goals

Yeah. I view him more like a McGinn
- jcragcrumple

Can I ask in what way? Not meant to be argumentative

McGinn was never a good goal scorer.

Vesey is.

W Karlsson to Habs E3 per EK
- sgk56

Consider the source

He had 17 PPG, not 70. Does 17 over 82 games make up for the fact that for roughly 14 mins a night when he's out on the ice the Jets average 13% fewer unblocked shots and concede 14% more?
- Sabresfan-365

The other issue is that he scores all his PP goals in Eichel's slot. Just a weird fit all around in my book.

Consider the source
- SABRES 89

So theres hope

Can I ask in what way? Not meant to be argumentative

McGinn was never a good goal scorer.

Vesey is.
- OneKaneOneCup

3LW, 20 goal ceiling. McGinn has 2 20 goal seasons, and I could see Vesey doing the same

The other issue is that he scores all his PP goals in Eichel's slot. Just a weird fit all around in my book.
- Lunaion

Yeah I’d swap Risto for him and hopefully give him like a 7.5 mil bridge deal.

But other than that I’m not interested in the overpayment

If you're gonna start talking about the shots he is responsible for letting on net. Let's not talk about his goals
- Mentalorgasm5

Fair enough. Also the one's that disappear when he's on the ice. Checking that shot map again, WPG doesn't sniff the slot when he's on the ice. I can live with him being a PP scoring specialist if the shots start going the right way. But as is WPG got 288 minutes of good at the cost of 1074 minutes of "what the (frank) are you doing".

So theres hope
- sgk56

No

The other issue is that he scores all his PP goals in Eichel's slot. Just a weird fit all around in my book.
- Lunaion

Yeah you'd have to shuffle some players around and risk them not being able to adjust

3LW, 20 goal ceiling. McGinn has 2 20 goal seasons, and I could see Vesey doing the same
- jcragcrumple

Gotcha.

I think Vesey has a higher ceiling on offense.

Over the past three years he has more EV goals than

Reinhart
O’Reilly
William Nylander

His most common centers have been David Deharnais and Brett Howden.

With a decent center he has 25 goal potential IMO

What's the Sabres first move this week?

Go!

What's the Sabres first move this week?

Go!
- mhp

Buffalo Sabres select Trevor Zegras

Buffalo Sabres select Trevor Zegras
- Sabresfan-365

Torn on him

Fair enough. Also the one's that disappear when he's on the ice. Checking that shot map again, WPG doesn't sniff the slot when he's on the ice. I can live with him being a PP scoring specialist if the shots start going the right way. But as is WPG got 288 minutes of good at the cost of 1074 minutes of "what the (frank) are you doing".
- Sabresfan-365

The only problem I have with acquiring him, he is one dimensional, and if he is going to cost 10 million or even 8 for that matter. He isnt worth it.

Torn on him
- OneKaneOneCup

Same, that's why I assume he's the pick

The only problem I have with acquiring him, he is one dimensional, and if he is going to cost 10 million or even 8 for that matter. He isnt worth it.
- Mentalorgasm5

Agreed, you'd have to convince him and his agent that a bridge deal is in his best interest. I mean, if he gets his scoring touch back it probably is.

Same, that's why I assume he's the pick
- Sabresfan-365

I can just see so many behind the back passes from our American trio of centers