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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
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Jun 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
Luckily there is never any passive aggressive bullpoop on here...
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:24 AM ET
The thing that gets me is most people saying "7 is too good to trade," but then you bring up names to trade 7 for, and people say "team x would be crazy to accept 7 for that player"
- jcragcrumple



Which is why 7 isn't getting traded

Brayden Point is the only player that I see a team potentially moving that I would move 7 for but it doesn't work cap wise (assuming Callahan is coming with). But I also don't see Tampa moving him.

Who else would you think you would trade 7 for?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:26 AM ET
Luckily there is never any passive aggressive bullpoop on here...
- jochfr



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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:27 AM ET
I don't see most of this traded. Botts wants young players that they can develop so guys like Olofsson, Asplund, 7OA aren't for sale imo. The others possibly but I don't know what we could get in return. Nelson and Smith have zero value, Nylander has some. The 2020 1st could be a piece along with 31. I'm just not sold on the idea we are gonna get guys like Zucker or others for our junk.
- mhp



We got 30 goal scorer Jeff Skinner for Cliff Pu, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

NEVER FORGET. lol
ImThatGuy
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Jun 14 @ 10:27 AM ET
Which is why 7 isn't getting traded

Brayden Point is the only player that I see a team potentially moving that I would move 7 for but it doesn't work cap wise (assuming Callahan is coming with). But I also don't see Tampa moving him.

Who else would you think you would trade 7 for?

- Stripes77


Laine, Marner, Kucherov

Vegas in a package for Karlsson +

There are so many players I’d move that pick for
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:29 AM ET
Which is why 7 isn't getting traded

Brayden Point is the only player that I see a team potentially moving that I would move 7 for but it doesn't work cap wise (assuming Callahan is coming with). But I also don't see Tampa moving him.

Who else would you think you would trade 7 for?

- Stripes77

It could work. They would need to get creative with Hunwick, Scandella, Bogosian, Sobotka, and/or Okposo, or not acquire anyone else with a big cap hit. I don't think Tampa would take that offer though.

That capfriendly had us acquiring Zucker too, wouldnt be able to do that 5.5 million.
mhp
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Jun 14 @ 10:29 AM ET
We got 30 goal scorer Jeff Skinner for Cliff Pu, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

NEVER FORGET. lol

- JVince11


Skynrd was a pending UFA but it was a good trade for us.
Stripes77
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Jun 14 @ 10:30 AM ET
Laine, Marner, Kucherov

Vegas in a package for Karlsson +

There are so many players I’d move that pick for

- ImThatGuy



Marner is going to cost 7, 31, next years 1st plus

Laine is one I could potentially see but again the contract comes into play

Kucherov isn't going anywhere, not to mention the cost to get him would be more than it would take to Marner

Karlsson plus is something I would consider but not for 7. Vegas is in cap hell so you're getting a cap dump with him so that takes 7 off the table
Stripes77
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Jun 14 @ 10:33 AM ET
It could work. They would need to get creative with Hunwick, Scandella, Bogosian, Sobotka, and/or Okposo, or not acquire anyone else with a big cap hit. I don't think Tampa would take that offer though.

That capfriendly had us acquiring Zucker too, wouldnt be able to do that 5.5 million.

- Mentalorgasm5


Getting creative short term can hurt long term when it comes time to re-sign Dahlin.

Would you rather get one stud player this off season or get 3 solid players that can improve the entire team?

That is the real question.
BeadyEyedDouche
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Jun 14 @ 10:34 AM ET
Gotta restock the nhl farm team somehow
jcragcrumple
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Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 14 @ 10:36 AM ET
Which is why 7 isn't getting traded

Brayden Point is the only player that I see a team potentially moving that I would move 7 for but it doesn't work cap wise (assuming Callahan is coming with). But I also don't see Tampa moving him.

Who else would you think you would trade 7 for?

- Stripes77


Idk who is available. Trouba, for one (picked 8th, for the record). With Dahlin's partner set, you can then trade Risto for forwards
Stripes77
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Jun 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
Idk who is available. Trouba, for one (picked 8th, for the record). With Dahlin's partner set, you can then trade Risto for forwards
- jcragcrumple



Trouba is a possibility I still think he ends up in Detroit
ImThatGuy
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Jun 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
Getting creative short term can hurt long term when it comes time to re-sign Dahlin.

Would you rather get one stud player this off season or get 3 solid players that can improve the entire team?

That is the real question.

- Stripes77

Consistently worrying about three years down the road means you are never going to win
Stripes77
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Jun 14 @ 10:45 AM ET
Consistently worrying about three years down the road means you are never going to win
- ImThatGuy



Not looking at it long term gets you in cap hell like Vegas who is going to lose at least one major piece of their team without the Championship.

Same goes for Tampa
jcragcrumple
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Jun 14 @ 10:46 AM ET
Gotta restock the nhl farm team somehow
- BeadyEyedDouche


Why?

The farm team exists to provide good players to the NHL club. If you can skip the farm club step with a first rounder trade for an NHL player, the outcome is the same as restocking the farm club.

If they want to get a better product in Rochester, they should try hitting on a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th round pick, which the Sabres have largely proven incompetent at doing
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
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Joined: 09.05.2016

Jun 14 @ 10:46 AM ET
He’s going to Seattle.

Okposo and a pick/Prospect will go to Seattle.

Retain 15-20% on Okposo

- ImThatGuy


1st rounder and prospect
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
Consistently worrying about three years down the road means you are never going to win
- ImThatGuy



This is totally right. Sign as much High end talent that you can and figure out the cap later. if we do sign a Duchene and winger, god willing we have a cup within the next 2-4 years. If we do, does anyone really care if we have to go into cap jail? I know I wont....

I would glad trade 1 CUP for 5-10 years of crap hockey...
mhp
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Jun 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
Gudas and Wilson in Washington. That should be fun.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
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Jun 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
Gotta restock the nhl farm team somehow
- BeadyEyedDouche



So you’re saying Fitz is a bad bartender?
JVince11
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Jun 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
Trouba is a possibility I still think he ends up in Detroit
- Stripes77


Trouba might be a very good player but not only giving assets for him but then he wants 8.5M AVV supposedly. Those two things combined is just too crippling IMO.

jcragcrumple
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Jun 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Trouba might be a very good player but not only giving assets for him but then he wants 8.5M AVV supposedly. Those two things combined is just too crippling IMO.
- JVince11


Crippling is Risto or Montour on the top pair in '19-'20
Stripes77
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Jun 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Trouba might be a very good player but not only giving assets for him but then he wants 8.5M AVV supposedly. Those two things combined is just too crippling IMO.
- JVince11



I agree

Looking at it all big picture is why I don't see 7 getting moved
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Not looking at it long term gets you in cap hell like Vegas who is going to lose at least one major piece of their team without the Championship.

Same goes for Tampa

- Stripes77


So what!! I would rather strike out swinging then looking.... Swing for the fences!!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Not looking at it long term gets you in cap hell like Vegas who is going to lose at least one major piece of their team without the Championship.

Same goes for Tampa

- Stripes77


So never acquire anyone ever then?

Next Year you have contracts up.
The year after that you have contracts up
The year after that you have contracts up
Any player you draft this year is up in 4 years.
And you have to worry about how much to pay them.

So really you’re just in contract hell always
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
So what!! I would rather strike out swinging then looking.... Swing for the fences!!
- hehateme



So the Murray way?
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