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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
There is access to them in the archives. You can go back years in the archives on this site. Again, you're uninformed. You're inaccurate and incorrect about these statements you claim I've made. Step and man up and back up what you claim I've said. You won't because you can't. It doesn't exist.
- MJL

“Raiders of The Lost Ark”
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
it would most certainly have been had i been saying it to you.
- Doc_Sarcasm

😂 A case of beer for that one. 🍻
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
There were those 5 games that Vinny was on pace for a 40 goal season.....

- landros 2


Oh man, memory lane
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
There were those 5 games that Vinny was on pace for a 40 goal season.....

- landros 2

Darn, he was slower than Weise and Knuble 😂
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
MacDonald did exactly what he was signed to do. Gave the Flyers a solid defender who could eat minutes and provide a veteran presence, especially for younger players. Every young player he played with relayed how he helped them grow as a player. He provided leadership and was deeply respected by his teammates.

Unless something changes, I don't see the sense in buying him out.

- MJL


Not when they could have just sent him down.


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 5:02 PM ET
Sometimes players say nice things about teammates because saying bad things would be bad mmkay.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
Not when they could have just sent him down.
- MBFlyerfan

They'll say that the roster spot was more valuable than the cap penalty. There is no other explanation.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:05 PM ET
There was no role for him because he simply isn’t good enough to hold down the 5-6 role on this team. He was not solid, he was mistake prone. He was so bad a couple years ago that they had to send him to the AHL. Just a bad signing and an over valuation that has finally ended.

- landros 2

My memory sucks, but I thought they sent him down because they were in cap trouble and sending him down gave them the space they needed?
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
There was no role for him because he simply isn’t good enough to hold down the 5-6 role on this team. He was not solid, he was mistake prone. He was so bad a couple years ago that they had to send him to the AHL. Just a bad signing and an over valuation that has finally ended.

- landros 2

And they moved on as they should.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
amac being buried? some poster here is going to flip poop
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
amac is a guy you put on the ice to jump in front of pucks cause that's pretty much all he can do
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
Good riddens MacDonald. What a poop bum. Why didn't they send the guy who signed him to that joke contract packing too.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
There is access to them in the archives. You can go back years in the archives on this site. Again, you're uninformed. You're inaccurate and incorrect about these statements you claim I've made. Step and man up and back up what you claim I've said. You won't because you can't. It doesn't exist. Just sour grapes on your part. So much that you have to resort to these tactics. It's embarrassing.
- MJL


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
My memory sucks, but I thought they sent him down because they were in cap trouble and sending him down gave them the space they needed?
- Dkos


At the time they did say that....but teams don’t send guys down that are playing good and help them win. They knew no one would take him on the waiver wire (obviously) ....so he was the logical choice.
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:24 PM ET
Absolutely. It's a fact. What does that have to do with the post you quoted?
- MJL


How exactly is that a fact?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:28 PM ET
At the time they did say that....but teams don’t send guys down that are playing good and help them win. They knew no one would take him on the waiver wire (obviously) ....so he was the logical choice.
- landros 2

He had the right balance of high salary and expendability. I don’t think he was ever as bad as fans make him out to be.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
He had the right balance of high salary and expendability. I don’t think he was ever as bad as fans make him out to be.
- Dkos



There were nights were he played a solid game. But you could never count on him to do it game in and game out. Coaches trust was mis placed. It’s like they were complacent with his inconsistent play. He should of been sent packing years ago....unlike some, my comments are not facts....they are simply my views.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 5:38 PM ET
The did get that one decent partial season out of him.

That's more than they got out of Vinny and Bryz.

- Tomahawk

In 2011-2012 Bryz gave them a 249 minute shutout streak which remains the longest in team history.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 15 @ 5:43 PM ET
I really didn’t watch Phaneuf at all this past season with the Kings. But if I remember correctly he wasn’t that bad with OTT before in playoffs . If we can’t go the trade route for another dman, would he be a serviceable guy as a back up short term guy?
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 5:51 PM ET
I really didn’t watch Phaneuf at all this past season with the Kings. But if I remember correctly he wasn’t that bad with OTT before in playoffs . If we can’t go the trade route for another dman, would he be a serviceable guy as a back up short term guy?
- arichardson22

He is cooked.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 5:53 PM ET
I wonder if 5 years from today we will be celebrating the buyout of Kevin Hayes.

I thought the smarter move was to bury Amac in LHV. Can’t figure out the logic behind a buyout.
It’s really no big deal either way.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 15 @ 5:56 PM ET
He is cooked.
- Sinisalo4vr


Trouba is Phaneuf before he went to Toronto.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 5:58 PM ET
He is cooked.
- Sinisalo4vr

100%

If the team has to go out and sign Phaneuf in 2019 then the rebuild of the defense has been a failure. The guy is toast.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 5:59 PM ET
Trouba is Phaneuf before he went to Toronto.
- Tomahawk

so you’re not a fan of trouba huh

he’s fine but not for ghost +

I’d rather keep the 11th pick too
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:00 PM ET
Dunno, he just has that reputation of doing right by everybody around him. In this case, burying AMac for another season would be kinda ruthless, even if it makes logical sense.
- Tomahawk

I’d take what the GM said as the truth. He just wants the extra $3 mil plus
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