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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:01 PM ET
He had the right balance of high salary and expendability. I don’t think he was ever as bad as fans make him out to be.
- Dkos


He gave the Flyers what they needed at the time. A minutes eating veteran defenseman who could play a top 4 role. Hextall send him down to make room for Manning. I understand they wanted to give Manning a chance but MacDonald was the superior player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:02 PM ET
I wonder if 5 years from today we will be celebrating the buyout of Kevin Hayes.

I thought the smarter move was to bury Amac in LHV. Can’t figure out the logic behind a buyout.
It’s really no big deal either way.

- Marc D


They have be looking at trying to do something else. No other reason why. Otherwise they don't need the cap space.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 15 @ 6:19 PM ET
He is cooked.
- Sinisalo4vr


never mind then!
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
so you’re not a fan of trouba huh

he’s fine but not for ghost +

I’d rather keep the 11th pick too

- Marc D

I think they keep the 11th and draft Broberg or Seider as the RHD of the future especially now that they acquired Niskanen as a bridge.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
They have be looking at trying to do something else. No other reason why. Otherwise they don't need the cap space.
- MJL

I thought and still think that keeping Amac at LHV was the thing to do but I wonder if this move has roots in a potential labor situation in 20-21.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
I wonder if 5 years from today we will be celebrating the buyout of Kevin Hayes.

I thought the smarter move was to bury Amac in LHV. Can’t figure out the logic behind a buyout.
It’s really no big deal either way.

- Marc D

Just curious what you can’t figure out in terms of the buyout ?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
I wonder if 5 years from today we will be celebrating the buyout of Kevin Hayes.

I thought the smarter move was to bury Amac in LHV. Can’t figure out the logic behind a buyout.
It’s really no big deal either way
.

- Marc D

I called Mac getting bought out from the very start. Sending him down to save cap space was only wishful thinking, especially with Fletcher having a history with buying out big deals (Vanek). Respectfully, it’s the right move. The Flyers need move on and allow Mac to continue his career in the nhl if possible.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
Just curious what you can’t figure out in terms of the buyout ?
- daryl stanley

It makes more sense to me to carry him for a year in LHV and be done with the cap hit in one year, rather then get stuck with the extra ~2M cap hit next season.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
There is access to them in the archives. You can go back years in the archives on this site. Again, you're uninformed. You're inaccurate and incorrect about these statements you claim I've made. Step and man up and back up what you claim I've said. You won't because you can't. It doesn't exist. Just sour grapes on your part. So much that you have to resort to these tactics. It's embarrassing.
- MJL


Please enlighten me on where these Archives are if you are so intent on me quoting your constant flip flopping with AMac
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
It makes more sense to me to carry him for a year in LHV and be done with the cap hit in one year, rather then get stuck with the extra ~2M cap hit next season.
- Marc D

They've determined the extra money now and roster spot is worth the buyout. It's not really anything more complicated than that.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
It makes more sense to me to carry him for a year in LHV and be done with the cap hit in one year, rather then get stuck with the extra ~2M cap hit next season.
- Marc D

I get that part 100%...however

It’s pretty clear they didn’t want him in the organization any longer. They didn’t want him taking up a roster spot here or in Lehigh. Just a guess though maybe they didn’t want any distractions he may cause if he was waived knowing he will be there all year more than likely.

GMs say a lot of things when players are shown the door. He didn’t want to bury him on the way out. In the big picture not a big deal.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
I called Mac getting bought out from the very start. Sending him down to save cap space was only wishful thinking, especially with Fletcher having a history with buying out big deals (Vanek). Respectfully, it’s the right move. The Flyers need move on and allow Mac to continue his career in the nhl if possible.
- SuperSchennBros

Do you mean it’s the right move for the player, in terms of letting Amac try and get an nhl spot with another team?

Or the best move for the team?

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
AD to Lakers

And poop, the Lakers gave up pretty much everything not named LeBron for him.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 6:35 PM ET
I get that part 100%...however

It’s pretty clear they didn’t want him in the organization any longer. They didn’t want him taking up a roster spot here or in Lehigh. Just a guess though maybe they didn’t want any distractions he may cause if he was waived knowing he will be there all year more than likely.

GMs say a lot of things when players are shown the door. He didn’t want to bury him on the way out. In the big picture not a big deal.

- daryl stanley


Agree not a big deal, but I think he’d be of value to LHV and maybe as an injury call up as a 3rd pair guy for the Flyers.

But in the big picture it’s ok to move on from Amac.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
AD to Lakers

And poop, the Lakers gave up pretty much everything not named LeBron for him.

- hereticpride



I dont know a lot about basketball but this was the deal


The New Orleans Pelicans have agreed to a deal to trade Anthony Davis to the Los Angeles Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, and three first-round picks -- including the No. 4 overall in 2019 Draft, league sources tell ESPN.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
They've determined the extra money now and roster spot is worth the buyout. It's not really anything more complicated than that.
- hereticpride

Are they going for something bigger to use that money now?

Or just clearing up the roster spot?
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
I dont know a lot about basketball but this was the deal


The New Orleans Pelicans have agreed to a deal to trade Anthony Davis to the Los Angeles Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, and three first-round picks -- including the No. 4 overall in 2019 Draft, league sources tell ESPN.

- opeth_pa

Hysterical.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
I dont know a lot about basketball but this was the deal


The New Orleans Pelicans have agreed to a deal to trade Anthony Davis to the Los Angeles Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, and three first-round picks -- including the No. 4 overall in 2019 Draft, league sources tell ESPN.

- opeth_pa

Can't wait to see how Ball Sr. reacts to this dilemma.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
Are they going for something bigger to use that money now?

Or just clearing up the roster spot?

- Marc D

Imo probably going after something this summer if they wanted the extra space now.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
Agree not a big deal, but I think he’d be of value to LHV and maybe as an injury call up as a 3rd pair guy for the Flyers.

But in the big picture it’s ok to move on from Amac.

- Marc D

Schemlko is the Lehigh vet mentor. If Amac needed to be Called up then the season went wrong somewhere imo as he doesn’t fit any long term need. For short term injury they are fine.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
AD to Lakers

And poop, the Lakers gave up pretty much everything not named LeBron for him.

- hereticpride


They kept Kuzma which is all that matters though.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
They kept Kuzma which is all that matters though.
- StepfordSam

True. That team had better win because they're going to be left in shambles when LeBron leaves.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Can't wait to see how Ball Sr. reacts to this dilemma.
- Sinisalo4vr

Watch the Sixers turn around and trade Simmons for Ball and Ingram.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
Imo probably going after something this summer if they wanted the extra space now.
- hereticpride

bias for action
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
Are they going for something bigger to use that money now?

Or just clearing up the roster spot?

- Marc D

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