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jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:39 PM ET
I'm still holding out for #11 and Hagg for Trouba.

Save Ghost in a package for a forward.

Seems like they may be penciling our 3rd pair as Morin and Myers... I'd like that.

AMac is gone, just don't understand the hate. He was overpaid but that's our fault. Let the guy rest in piece. He'll get picked up by a team as a 3rd pair guy. Earn $2.5 and ride off into sunset. I was quick to criticize him A LOT but I appreciate his service.

- cdearth23


We have better dmen playing now on our team then Trouba. That would be a waste of roster and salary.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:49 PM ET
Idk if there is even a youngish top pair guy out there to trade for. Ekblad maybe?
- hereticpride



There probably isnt one available at all, and any that were would come at an exorbitant price.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:26 PM ET
At least we didn't trade for Maata
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:00 PM ET
I have a gut feeling Ghost is going to be moved for a forward. I'll see how I feel about it when I see what the return is.
- hereticpride


I'm not advocating for trading Ghost but I think it might happen as well. He is a unique talent in need of a bounce back season but he may fetch a good return. Jury will be out until we see that return.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:04 PM ET
We have better dmen playing now on our team then Trouba. That would be a waste of roster and salary.
- jmdodgeser4


I believe that Provy, Sanheim, and Myers will be solid NHL dman, but, right now, Trouba would be top pair. It would be a move to solidify d corps. I'd be supportive of the move.

Provy / Trouba
Sanheim / Niskanen
Morin / Myers

Ghost, Hagg, etc. .
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:17 PM ET
Are they going for something bigger to use that money now?

Or just clearing up the roster spot?

- Marc D


Got to think something bigger. Fletcher had freed up money. He wants more freed up money. He is going all in.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:23 PM ET
Schemlko is the Lehigh vet mentor. If Amac needed to be Called up then the season went wrong somewhere imo as he doesn’t fit any long term need. For short term injury they are fine.
- daryl stanley


I don’t know. Think so many injuries happen and with only one extra held on D a call up is a likely situation. A guy like AMac is who you would want in that situation.

And he is not taking up a prospect space in LV. They are short a couple D as is.

I have to think that Fletcher is going after some major deals this off season. Sit back and enjoy the fireworks boys. Because the Fourth of July is going on all summer.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:23 PM ET
At least we didn't trade for Maata
- hereticpride

No we got Niskanen
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:25 PM ET
If we don't sign Hayes who do you think we target? RNH in a trade? That would probably require giving up Ghost

Not sure there's a simple solution for 2C if Hayes doesn't sign

- bulet13


No simple solution. But Fletch has the Cap space and picks/prospects to make something happen.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:35 PM ET
Please, everyone on hear knows how you are. You are always in some sort of argument with someone because that's how you get off.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Me too. The problem is i get off pre-mature so I never really get to the arguing because I’m in the refractory period.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:40 PM ET
If we don't sign Hayes who do you think we target? RNH in a trade? That would probably require giving up Ghost

Not sure there's a simple solution for 2C if Hayes doesn't sign

- bulet13

sounds like kadri
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:42 PM ET
You're the guy who is claiming that I have made statements. Specifically that MacDonald is "garbage". There is no such statement. Nor is there any flip flopping. I have challenged you numerous times to back up your claims. The responsibility is on you to do so since you're the accuser. You have failed repeatedly to do so. The bottom line is that your claims are complete bullpoop. Be man enough to come at me directly rather than with this childish approach. When I disagree with a statement you make, I don't bring up some fantasy of something you allegedly said in the past or make statements as you did calling me out. I bring it directly to you. Case closed.

On any blog that Bill writes, under his picture there is the word archive. Click on it. You can read any blog that Bill has written and the comments in the thread going back to July of 2006. I'll be waiting.

- MJL

would you terminate a contract of a player that isn't garbage?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:44 PM ET
Here is the comment I am talking about:



You have spent years telling us AMac was a Top 4 Dman and defending him. His play hasnt changed since the day he arrived. You dont say he is garbage directly but thats pretty much what you mean. I spent way too much time tracking down this comment. I dont care enough about some stranger on the internet enough to dig deeper. I shouldnt have even cared this much

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

i can make this easy on you

AMac is bad player
- MJL
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 16 @ 12:56 AM ET
would you terminate a contract of a player that isn't garbage?
- 2Real


You'd have a better chance of convincing a flat earther that they're wrong.
jduran10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.26.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:38 AM ET
I have always said keep him. One year will not break us. We can also trade him and retain cap. He is a capable 3rd pair guy just overpaid. Id be tempted to play him as well. AMac has played pretty well every second season since arriving here. Hopefully he can have a strong start, gain some interest and we can deal him to a team desperate to replace injured Dmen. I would much rather keep 2.5 mill over one season than 2 mill over 2 years
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Questions
Have you played much quality hockey?
Have you watched all,or most of the games last year?
If yes to both, then you couldn’t possibly think Amac played pretty well.
Dude is horrible.
jduran10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.26.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:39 AM ET
I'm not advocating for trading Ghost but I think it might happen as well. He is a unique talent in need of a bounce back season but he may fetch a good return. Jury will be out until we see that return.
- cdearth23


Package for Subban
jduran10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.26.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:42 AM ET
We have better dmen playing now on our team then Trouba. That would be a waste of roster and salary.
- jmdodgeser4


Amac will never play another NHL game again
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Jun 16 @ 4:47 AM ET
Amac gone? It seems too good to be true. In all fairness, it’s not his fault for his biggest drawback...his contract. Anyone would have signed it, it’s Homers and Hexy’s fault for giving it to him. Amac is and has always been a below average defenseman and would have been sent packing years ago if not for his ridiculous contract. I am sure he always tried his best, he just isn’t good. And so ends the reign of one of the worst footnotes in Flyers history...but don’t despair Raffl is still here.
- darkerens


Hextall??
- SMS4016


Hexy was the assistant gm at the time and I am sure he had input on the trade and the signing. He also kept him around and in the nhl for years after becoming gm. Either way, I can’t believe how many arguments there have been on here about one of the most mediocre players during the most mediocre period of our franchise. Maybe we can all argue about Manning next.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
Questions
Have you played much quality hockey?
Have you watched all,or most of the games last year?
If yes to both, then you couldn’t possibly think Amac played pretty well.
Dude is horrible.

- jduran10


Where did I say that? All I was saying is to not take on the dead cap space for an extra year. I know AMac didnt play well. The most I was hoping for was to give him a few games to start the season and see if he can draw some interest. Teams often lose DMen to injury. I dont think teams would hesitate to take him at half the cap hit if they need a depth guy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
Please, everyone on hear knows how you are. You are always in some sort of argument with someone because that's how you get off.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


What does that have to do with your claims of what I supposedly have stated? Nothing. You've got nothing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
Here is the comment I am talking about:



You have spent years telling us AMac was a Top 4 Dman and defending him. His play hasnt changed since the day he arrived. You dont say he is garbage directly but thats pretty much what you mean. I spent way too much time tracking down this comment. I dont care enough about some stranger on the internet enough to dig deeper. I shouldnt have even cared this much

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


How ridiculously absurd. MacDonald is in the last year of his contract. LOL. Which pretty much means when the team reaches true contender status in the FUTURE, MacDonald won't be around. You did spend way too much time tracking this comment down. We're in agreement. It doesn't say what you say I mean. This is an epic failure on your part. I have made comments exactly on what MacDonald has been as a player the Flyers. Nothing has changed about any of that. The post you quoted was part of the conversation about your claim that the Flyers have a surplus of top 4 NHL defenseman. I proved your statement to be wrong . Congrats, you quoted a post that showed that I was right. That somehow in your mind, me stating the obvious that MacDonald is not part of the Flyers future is flip flopping on what I've said about him in the past. That thought on your part is completely devoid of logic.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
You'd have a better chance of convincing a flat earther that they're wrong.
- Tomahawk


What was I wrong about?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jun 16 @ 4:54 PM ET
What was I wrong about?
- MJL


I missed this. Are you really a flat-earther? I am dying to know.
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