The power play is one dimensional and goes like this: Byfuglein/Trouba through Wheeler to Scheifele or Connor or Laine. The only chance Laine has for an assist is if someone scores off his rebounded shot....
- liverpoolnhl

Patrik Laine shots last three seasons:
2016-17: 204
2017-18: 241
2018-19: 245

Laine would have had about 240 shots in his rookie season if he did not get hurt. I hear lots on this board how Wheeler and Scheifele are force fed. Laine averaged more time on the power play this year and scored less goals than the year before and he is force fed more pucks on the power play than anyone else. If Laine shot lower or increased his shot volume than opportunities to get rebounds would exist. Laine has proven to be a one dimensional hockey player. Even people on this board and others that I read all state that Laine needs a playmaker to get him going.

If we seriously need another player to get Laine going than he definitely is not worth what he's asking for. Players who get 7 million plus normally get going on their own.

One player the Jets should be looking at is William Karlsson. Vegas seems to be heading into a cap crunch and he will be available. I think Lowry plus a late round pick should be enough to to get him.

Based on the fact that both Scheifele and Connor had over 30 goals means that Laine just being based on the power play with the two should be piling on the assists. This just further proves the point I have been making in that, Laine is unable to elevate his line mates.
- TheUltimateJet

Well, no. A basic understanding of how our powerplay works would tell you why that’s not a real knock on Laine.

Laine is in the worst position to pile up assists. Literally every single other player on the top unit needs to receive the pass, turn, and shoot. No one timer option, aside from Connor, whom is through traffic and possibly blocked by the net. He’s the trigger man, the biggest threat, and the most covered.

👍 agree
- Ross77

I put Perreault in the Connor spot, if Vesalainen is ready.

The second unit would be a mirrored replica of the top unit, as follows:

Wheeler = Ehlers
Scheifele = Connor
Laine = Vesalainen
Perreault = Roslovic
Byfuglien = Niku

Patrik Laine shots last three seasons:
2016-17: 204
2017-18: 241
2018-19: 245

Laine would have had about 240 shots in his rookie season if he did not get hurt. I hear lots on this board how Wheeler and Scheifele are force fed. Laine averaged more time on the power play this year and scored less goals than the year before and he is force fed more pucks on the power play than anyone else. If Laine shot lower or increased his shot volume than opportunities to get rebounds would exist. Laine has proven to be a one dimensional hockey player. Even people on this board and others that I read all state that Laine needs a playmaker to get him going.

If we seriously need another player to get Laine going than he definitely is not worth what he's asking for. Players who get 7 million plus normally get going on their own.
- TheUltimateJet

None of what you’re saying makes any sense. His shot volume isn’t going up because he’s doing everything himself. He is literally shooting as close in and as often as he can on his own.
You want more shots? Higher quality shots? Get him a feeder. Put him with Scheifele, and Laine pots 50, with Scheifele teasing triple digits for points.

The powerplay also isn’t as strong as it has been historically. So that won’t help either.

One player the Jets should be looking at is William Karlsson. Vegas seems to be heading into a cap crunch and he will be available. I think Lowry plus a late round pick should be enough to to get him.
- TheUltimateJet

Lowry is the cheaper player, and possibly the better player. Karlsson is an overpay waiting to happen.

I put Perreault in the Connor spot, if Vesalainen is ready.

The second unit would be a mirrored replica of the top unit, as follows:

Wheeler = Ehlers
Scheifele = Connor
Laine = Vesalainen
Perreault = Roslovic
Byfuglien = Niku
- Rexypoo

Give up the dream on Perreault Rexypoo.

With NYI having interest in Trouba, do you think they would give up their current mid-first rounder, previous first rounder Wahlstrom, and rights to much maligned forward Ho-Sang for Trouba on an 8-year deal (sign and trade)? Asking price is roughly this. Ho-Sang needs a new organization, NYI are done with him by the looks of things. Just RFA rights, not yet under contract. Wahlstrom is a great prospect. And Mid-first is likely not a player to crack the lineup this year. Seems like a fair return if Trouba will agree to an 8-year deal to transfer NY's way. If it's just Trouba rights... well after the last contract negotiations, I don't know if the Jets could get much more than a second round pick in return.

Little Perreault Kulikov/ Ladd HoSang First

With NYI having interest in Trouba, do you think they would give up their current mid-first rounder, previous first rounder Wahlstrom, and rights to much maligned forward Ho-Sang for Trouba on an 8-year deal (sign and trade)? Asking price is roughly this. Ho-Sang needs a new organization, NYI are done with him by the looks of things. Just RFA rights, not yet under contract. Wahlstrom is a great prospect. And Mid-first is likely not a player to crack the lineup this year. Seems like a fair return if Trouba will agree to an 8-year deal to transfer NY's way. If it's just Trouba rights... well after the last contract negotiations, I don't know if the Jets could get much more than a second round pick in return.
- Burnt_juice

If Islanders, I'm wondering if signed Trouba and Kulivov/Perreault for Pulock, Wahlstrom and 23rd might work? I would stay away from Ho-Sang - bad news IMO.

Give up the dream on Perreault Rexypoo.
- BWJumper

What does that even mean? He’s still here, still at the top of his game, and still has years left on a value deal.

Give up the dream on Scheifele is the natural progression here lol

With NYI having interest in Trouba, do you think they would give up their current mid-first rounder, previous first rounder Wahlstrom, and rights to much maligned forward Ho-Sang for Trouba on an 8-year deal (sign and trade)? Asking price is roughly this. Ho-Sang needs a new organization, NYI are done with him by the looks of things. Just RFA rights, not yet under contract. Wahlstrom is a great prospect. And Mid-first is likely not a player to crack the lineup this year. Seems like a fair return if Trouba will agree to an 8-year deal to transfer NY's way. If it's just Trouba rights... well after the last contract negotiations, I don't know if the Jets could get much more than a second round pick in return.
- Burnt_juice

Wahlstrom, Ho Sang, and a 1st is a fantastic return.

Having said that, I might not want Ho Sang just because of the experiences with Dano.
If you aren’t in the NHL at the time of the deal, the Jets aren’t getting you there

Little Perreault Kulikov/ Ladd HoSang First
- DrunkenCanuck

No
Maybe
Nah, no.

You can’t trade Little unless you have a #2 center coming back or acquire one in another trade.

Copp or Lowry are not #2 centers.

You can’t trade Little unless you have a #2 center coming back or acquire one in another trade.

Copp or Lowry are not #2 centers.
- bennythehat

Little is worse than both Copp and Lowry, and both Copp and Lowry can and should be playing at 2C and 3C this season

Little is worse than both Copp and Lowry, and both Copp and Lowry can and should be playing at 2C and 3C this season
- Rexypoo

Wrong, as usual.

None of what you’re saying makes any sense. His shot volume isn’t going up because he’s doing everything himself. He is literally shooting as close in and as often as he can on his own.
You want more shots? Higher quality shots? Get him a feeder. Put him with Scheifele, and Laine pots 50, with Scheifele teasing triple digits for points.

The powerplay also isn’t as strong as it has been historically. So that won’t help either.
- Rexypoo

You just agreed with me Rexy. Laine is incapable of elevating line mates but needs someone to feed him the puck.

Lowry is the cheaper player, and possibly the better player. Karlsson is an overlay waiting to happen.
- Rexypoo

How so? I am curious to hear this.

Little is worse than both Copp and Lowry, and both Copp and Lowry can and should be playing at 2C and 3C this season
- Rexypoo

Its because of Little and Perreault, Ehlers will most likely be traded this off season. Sad thing is we need his contract off the books in order to sign Laine.

This is worth a read:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...RETURN-big-risk/271/99988

Ryan O'Reilly (2019 Conn Smythe Winner) last off season would have cost the Jets: Little, Lowry, 2019 first and a prospect (Appleton, Lemieux, Roslovic).

I give Armstrong full credit for being able to revamp his center depth in 3 years. He got Schenn, Bozak, and O'Reilly, while letting go of Lehtera, Backes and Statstny. He also made proactive moves by getting rid of Shattenkirk before he declined. Our GM is unable to do all of this.

None of what you’re saying makes any sense. His shot volume isn’t going up because he’s doing everything himself. He is literally shooting as close in and as often as he can on his own.
You want more shots? Higher quality shots? Get him a feeder. Put him with Scheifele, and Laine pots 50, with Scheifele teasing triple digits for points.

The powerplay also isn’t as strong as it has been historically. So that won’t help either.
- Rexypoo

and this brings us to a Laine issue that maturity in his game should correct: Laine needs to actively seek out shooting lanes, needs to move around in a wider range to draw defenders and create space. When that starts happening we will find our feeder.

Lowry is the cheaper player, and possibly the better player. Karlsson is an overlay waiting to happen.
- Rexypoo

trying to picture a Karlsson overlay. His mug on Lowry's neck? a blend of features?

Wahlstrom, Ho Sang, and a 1st is a fantastic return.

Having said that, I might not want Ho Sang just because of the experiences with Dano.
If you aren’t in the NHL at the time of the deal, the Jets aren’t getting you there
- Rexypoo

Its a good return but not the right deal for the Jets while in a win window.

This is worth a read:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...RETURN-big-risk/271/99988

Ryan O'Reilly (2019 Conn Smythe Winner) last off season would have cost the Jets: Little, Lowry, 2019 first and a prospect (Appleton, Lemieux, Roslovic).

I give Armstrong full credit for being able to revamp his center depth in 3 years. He got Schenn, Bozak, and O'Reilly, while letting go of Lehtera, Backes and Statstny. He also made proactive moves by getting rid of Shattenkirk before he declined. Our GM is unable to do all of this.
- TheUltimateJet

from the article:

it rarely works out for the team aquiring the star

Its because of Little and Perreault, Ehlers will most likely be traded this off season. Sad thing is we need his contract off the books in order to sign Laine.
- TheUltimateJet

Don't see Ehlers going anywhere. Great young player with a great contract for the Jets. Why would they even think of dealing him? Fans pay $$$ to see players like him. Actually don't think they would ever consider moving him.

Cap space will come from dealing Perreault since Little has a NMC that is good until July 1, 2020. (at which time he will be dealt if possible)