Wrong, as usual.
- bennythehat

There’s no way you can watch Little in any game this year and think he’s either A: better than those two, or B: a 2C. He struggled as a 3RW.

You just agreed with me Rexy. Laine is incapable of elevating line mates but needs someone to feed him the puck.
- TheUltimateJet

What I said was get him a feeder.
Laine does not need a feeder to score goals.
The Jets need to give Laine a feeder to get more goals than he can get on his own.

and this brings us to a Laine issue that maturity in his game should correct: Laine needs to actively seek out shooting lanes, needs to move around in a wider range to draw defenders and create space. When that starts happening we will find our feeder.
- 2.0

He does this literally always. That’s not a maturity thing, nor is it something that will suddenly make Bryan Little a good playmaker again

Don't see Ehlers going anywhere. Great young player with a great contract for the Jets. Why would they even think of dealing him? Fans pay $$$ to see players like him. Actually don't think they would ever consider moving him.

Cap space will come from dealing Perreault since Little has a NMC that is good until July 1, 2020. (at which time he will be dealt if possible)
- grahamzky

two scenarios where it is possible he could be traded:
1) if the dressing room rift is significant and if Ehlers is felt to be at the core of it
2) if the return is a phenomenal player, ie Malkin/Hall/?? type player

in short - Ehlers isn't going to be traded.

He does this literally always. That’s not a maturity thing, nor is it something that will suddenly make Bryan Little a good playmaker again
- Rexypoo

I don't think Little has ever been a natural playmaker and surely 2019/20 is the year Laine plays with different linemates.

That said, I disagree that Laine is doing enough (or nearly enough), to reach his potential as a scorer. The next steps are on him, not his linemates. If I were going to try to be diplomatic about it I would say he is not finding lanes or drawing opponents consistently enough.

two scenarios where it is possible he could be traded:
1) if the dressing room rift is significant and if Ehlers is felt to be at the core of it
2) if the return is a phenomenal player, ie Malkin/Hall/?? type player

in short - Ehlers isn't going to be traded.
- 2.0

Exactly.
Don't want that phenomenal player to be either Hall (1 yr till UFA) or Malkin ( 3 yrs till UFA, 32 and injury prone IMO) though.
Doubt Ehlers is dressing room problem, but who knows. He must get peed off with lack of power play time. Maybe a back-end problem? Guess we'll see who's moved, eh?

I don't think Little has ever been a natural playmaker and surely 2019/20 is the year Laine plays with different linemates.

That said, I disagree that Laine is doing enough (or nearly enough), to reach his potential as a scorer. The next steps are on him, not his linemates. If I were going to try to be diplomatic about it I would say he is not finding lanes or drawing opponents consistently enough.
- 2.0

Well, no. Little is shoot-first. It also doesn’t help that Laine, Little, and any winger are all made worse by being together.

Laine’s play is on Laine now, yes, but not because of anything he is or isn’t doing on the ice. If he spends the summer with Scheifele, and really goes at his skating, he’ll just do more of what he already does out there, and have an easier time doing it. Anyone wanting fundamental changes to Laine’s game don’t understand what we have in Laine.

The situation Laine is in right now, is the same as last year. (2nd line winger with Little as his center). Until that changes the most reasonable expectations for him is his shooting % goes back to 18% and he scores 40 goals and gets 20 assists.

Well, no. Little is shoot-first. It also doesn’t help that Laine, Little, and any winger are all made worse by being together.

Laine’s play is on Laine now, yes, but not because of anything he is or isn’t doing on the ice. If he spends the summer with Scheifele, and really goes at his skating, he’ll just do more of what he already does out there, and have an easier time doing it. Anyone wanting fundamental changes to Laine’s game don’t understand what we have in Laine.
- Rexypoo

any young player who is not willing or disinterested on improving fundamentals doesn't belong in professional hockey.

He will still be that elite scorer, the difference is that he will understand where increased shooting opportunities are available.

from the article:
- 2.0

Nice cherry picking one sentence. This is the quote I liked the most:

Most teams like guys on their roster and tend to overvalue their worth. The view from the front office and the fan's seat in the stands usually paints a much prettier picture for their own guys in comparison to other team's players.

What I said was get him a feeder.
Laine does not need a feeder to score goals.
The Jets need to give Laine a feeder to get more goals than he can get on his own.
- Rexypoo

On one hand you are saying get him a feeder, but he does not need a feeder, but does need one to score more goals?

Please let me know that I am reading you right.

There’s no way you can watch Little in any game this year and think he’s either A: better than those two, or B: a 2C. He struggled as a 3RW.
- Rexypoo

Brutal player, LOL....15 goals, 41 points, wins more than 50% of his faceoffs, and was stuck with Laine as a linemate for a good portion of the year.

Nice cherry picking one sentence. This is the quote I liked the most:
- TheUltimateJet

OK I will state it as my opinion then: Making blockbuster trades for a marquis player rarely results in a championship for the team aquiring the marquis player. There should be some stats out there that can back me up but thinking Esposito, Gretzky, Lindros, Gilmour, Pittsburg and Detroit Hossa, Karlsson, Thornton and more come to mind.

OK I will state it as my opinion then: Making blockbuster trades for a marquis player rarely results in a championship for the team aquiring the marquis player. There should be some stats out there that can back me up but thinking Esposito, Gretzky, Lindros, Gilmour, Pittsburg and Detroit Hossa, Karlsson, Thornton and more come to mind.
- 2.0

All those names that I put into bold did not have any marquis players on their rosters when they were traded to the teams they were. In fact, if you want to include Gretzky, Lindros and Thornton all players made the Stanley Cup final on the teams that acquired them.

In Hossa's case, Detroit made the finals with him in the line-up. Karlsson just signed a long-term extension with the club and I am sure he will make the cup final sooner than Lowry and Little.

Bottom line is that these types of acquisitions put teams into positions to win championships. Lets start with O'Reilly, Kessel, Hossa (in Chicago 3 times), and I am sure I can think of more.

Well, no. Little is shoot-first. It also doesn’t help that Laine, Little, and any winger are all made worse by being together.

Laine’s play is on Laine now, yes, but not because of anything he is or isn’t doing on the ice. If he spends the summer with Scheifele, and really goes at his skating, he’ll just do more of what he already does out there, and have an easier time doing it. Anyone wanting fundamental changes to Laine’s game don’t understand what we have in Laine.
- Rexypoo

Just want him to move his ass and work harder. I don't expect him to become the next Teemu Selanne....just a better Patrik Laine.

OK I will state it as my opinion then: Making blockbuster trades for a marquis player rarely results in a championship for the team aquiring the marquis player. There should be some stats out there that can back me up but thinking Esposito, Gretzky, Lindros, Gilmour, Pittsburg and Detroit Hossa, Karlsson, Thornton and more come to mind.
- 2.0

Wow, can't believe that the Sharks gave the cripple, Erik Karlsson, $8 years at $11.5 per year. They had better hope that Karlsson is allergic to his hockey equipment a la Hossa.
Suddenly the Sharks are in cap hell. Now they have something like $12 M to sign six forwards including Pavelski, Meier, and Lebanc. Doug Wilson has had too much sun!

The Sharks now have to worry about dumping players, but hey, it's all good for the Jets.

Thought I would come by and check out some posts.....oh more useless Laine arguing, that will accomplish nothing. Alrighty then, see ya later

I put Perreault in the Connor spot, if Vesalainen is ready.

The second unit would be a mirrored replica of the top unit, as follows:

Wheeler = Ehlers
Scheifele = Connor
Laine = Vesalainen
Perreault = Roslovic
Byfuglien = Niku
- Rexypoo

Perreault has no business being on the power play as he has stone hands.

Myers Rights to the Leaves for Rich Clune.

Myers Rights to the Leaves for Rich Clune.
- DrunkenCanuck

Never, Myers is just as valuable and polarizing to the Jets as Laine. Both players need other players to make them better. In Myers case it’s Morrissey and in Laine’s case someone who can feed him the puck.

Wow, can't believe that the Sharks gave the cripple, Erik Karlsson, $8 years at $11.5 per year. They had better hope that Karlsson is allergic to his hockey equipment a la Hossa.
Suddenly the Sharks are in cap hell. Now they have something like $12 M to sign six forwards including Pavelski, Meier, and Lebanc. Doug Wilson has had too much sun!

The Sharks now have to worry about dumping players, but hey, it's all good for the Jets.
- grahamzky

At one time the great Teemu Selanne was considered a cripple until the 2004-2005 lockout gave him a year to recover his injured knee. I still believe that Karlsson is one of the best players on the planet. I would have loved it if my favourite player played for my favourite team.

Trouba to the Rangers

Pionk and 20th

Trouba to the Rangers

Pionk and 20th
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Thought we could get more. Maybe I under-rate Pionk?

The window is closed.

We just traded Trouba for our own sh*tty pick back, and a 7D. We literally got less for Trouba than we gave up for our last 2 rentals.

It honestly might be over.

Thought we could get more. Maybe I under-rate Pionk?
- grahamzky

He was just ok when I saw him play the Leafs last season. Meh, kinda disappointed Chevy.

Hayes and Pionk for Trouba Lemieux 4th when you boil it down