Colorado, Philly, Columbus, Carolina, Islanders....

All teams with plenty of cap space than will be looking for a 1A/1B and will likely overpay a bit since they're all way below the cap floor (I know that won't necessarily be the case on opening night, just saying).

I have a hunch Philly will be interested. He kinda "fits" with the organization. And since Hart is on minimum wage, they can likely pitch him around 3.5 on a 1 year, or even 2 year deal.
- redseerpf

He's not going to Philly. Hart is the starter there, and there's no way they're spending 3.5 million for a backup. It doesn't make sense for Smith or the Flyers.

Calgary is pretty much the only place where he's going to get a legit chance to be the number one guy.

He's not going to Philly. Hart is the starter there, and there's no way they're spending 3.5 million for a backup. It doesn't make sense for Smith or the Flyers.

Calgary is pretty much the only place where he's going to get a legit chance to be the number one guy.
- Hunkulese

Edmonton?

He's not going to Philly. Hart is the starter there, and there's no way they're spending 3.5 million for a backup. It doesn't make sense for Smith or the Flyers.

Calgary is pretty much the only place where he's going to get a legit chance to be the number one guy.
- Hunkulese

Hart has 31 games of nhl experience. He's the "number 1" as long as he doesn't implode, which could be 3 weeks into the season. And since he's making 900K and the Flyers have plenty of cap space, they can afford to throw 3+ at a suitable "backup" who can carry the load in case Hart doesn't deliver.

Edmonton?
- DuranDuran

Chiarelli's gone. They're not going to be spending 8 million on two mediocre goalies.

Hart has 31 games of nhl experience. He's the "number 1" as long as he doesn't implode, which could be 3 weeks into the season. And since he's making 900K and the Flyers have plenty of cap space, they can afford to throw 3+ at a suitable "backup" who can carry the load in case Hart doesn't deliver.
- redseerpf

Smith isn't signing anywhere where the plan is for him to be the backup. If Philly wants to waste 3+ million on a backup for just in case, it makes a lot more sense to just sign McElhinney.

Smith isn't signing anywhere where the plan is for him to be the backup. If Philly wants to waste 3+ million on a backup for just in case, it makes a lot more sense to just sign McElhinney.
- Hunkulese

If Smith signs here, it's, at best, to be a 1A. There are several teams that can offer that opportunity (or better), and have more cap space to play with this year:

Teams that are a possible fit for Smith that can possibly pay more than Calgary (or offer as much or more playing time)

- Islanders - if Lehner leaves, not so sure they are handing their playoff lives to Greiss
- Buffalo/Ottawa/Chicago - their goaltending is a disaster and all have at least $17M in cap space and no significant signings to make this year
- Philly - Smith could easily get 40 games next year, which is about the most he can expect anywhere right now. Hart also needs a solid veteran presence, and might benefit from learning a little puck handling. It's not outrageous. $34M in cap space too
- Edmonton - Wouldn't count out Holland for looking at a veteran goalie. Look at his track record... If they can clear some cap (Sekera, Russell or Lucic) there's a decent chance they look at a veteran goalie that can help their defensive corps avoid a little abuse

Hey Bro
Havent seen you mixing it up lately! Hope you're doing good & getting a lot of golfing in!
- Kevin R

Hey dude, been crazy busy at work. Should be out golfing soon.

Trouba trade just set the market for Brodie. Pony up female doges (30 other GMs)

Trouba trade just set the market for Brodie. Pony up female doges (30 other GMs)
- rmull905

It's actually very bad news for Calgary. Brodie's value is pretty much a 2nd rounder now.

The only thing maybe good for Brodie's value here is that he hasn't asked for a trade about 17 times.

It's actually very bad news for Calgary. Brodie's value is pretty much a 2nd rounder now.

The only thing maybe good for Brodie's value here is that he hasn't asked for a trade about 17 times.
- redseerpf

Supply & Demand rules. Now that Karlsson & Trouba are out of the running, Brodie's stock just went up a little bit. Gardiner & Myers are going to be a lot more expensive than Brodie. This links the leafs & Flames on a potential deal a little bit more. Canadians & Flyers are looking as well. Horrible trade for Jets. They should have traded him last year when he demanded a trade, return would have been much higher.

Supply & Demand rules. Now that Karlsson & Trouba are out of the running, Brodie's stock just went up a little bit. Gardiner & Myers are going to be a lot more expensive than Brodie. This links the leafs & Flames on a potential deal a little bit more. Canadians & Flyers are looking as well. Horrible trade for Jets. They should have traded him last year when he demanded a trade, return would have been much higher.
- Kevin R

You're right about supply and demand. But still, the Trouba trade sets the bar for the symbolic value of dmen at the moment, so even if Brodie's stock might go a bit higher because of rarity, we're bound to be disappointed by the return.

You're right about supply and demand. But still, the Trouba trade sets the bar for the symbolic value of dmen at the moment, so even if Brodie's stock might go a bit higher because of rarity, we're bound to be disappointed by the return.
- redseerpf

Not sure how you reach two disparate conclusions in one statement... Viewed Brodie and Trouba as having fairly similar value, both have a year left, are top 4 dmen that play the right side. Trouba has a little more size and grit, Brodie a little more speed. Jets just got a top 6 dman and a mid 1st round pick... Think the Flames would be happy with just the latter

Not sure how you reach two disparate conclusions in one statement... Viewed Brodie and Trouba as having fairly similar value, both have a year left, are top 4 dmen that play the right side. Trouba has a little more size and grit, Brodie a little more speed. Jets just got a top 6 dman and a mid 1st round pick... Think the Flames would be happy with just the latter
- rmull905

Perceived value on Trouba (both market and talent) is higher than Brodie. Also, Trouba is actually RFA at the moment (according to capfriendly at least), Rags have him under control, whereas Brodie has all the chance to be a 1 year rental.

Perceived value on Trouba (both market and talent) is higher than Brodie. Also, Trouba is actually RFA at the moment (according to capfriendly at least), Rags have him under control, whereas Brodie has all the chance to be a 1 year rental.
- redseerpf

LOL, right, forgot Trouba already hit RFA status, thought he had another year left - think that tilts things in Brodie's favour somewhat.Trouba has arb rights, and given his last deal was already more expensive than Brodie's, he's likely looking at 6-6.5+ with this contract.
At least with Brodie you get a full year of control at a very reasonable cap hit for what he produces

It's actually very bad news for Calgary. Brodie's value is pretty much a 2nd rounder now.

The only thing maybe good for Brodie's value here is that he hasn't asked for a trade about 17 times.
- redseerpf

Trouba's trade has zero impact on Brodie's value. Treliving knows what he wants to get back for Brodie, and he knows what other teams are offering. What two other teams decided on for a completely different player isn't going to change what Treliving wants. People want to bring up how early trades set the market, but that's only because the 24 hour media has to talk about something. You almost never see one trade having an effect on another except that it'll drive the price up on future trades because teams get desperate when they lose out on who they want.

If Treliving doesn't get what he wants, he'll just keep him. The Flames defence is better with Brodie as a part of it. The only way he'd absolutely have to trade Brodie is if he can convince one of the big name FAs to come to Calgary.

After the Karlson signing, I think I like Brodie a little bit more this morning ! $4.6 for our top pairing D. Brodie + Gio is cheaper ! To me, if it's at all possible, i'd look at moving Stone first, then Hammer, then Brodie. I have to believe Andersson is at least still a year away from being a top pairing guy....if ever. Also have to remember that Brodie is Gio's long time partner. He might want them to keep Brodie around a while longer.

Trouba's trade has zero impact on Brodie's value. Treliving knows what he wants to get back for Brodie, and he knows what other teams are offering. What two other teams decided on for a completely different player isn't going to change what Treliving wants. People want to bring up how early trades set the market, but that's only because the 24 hour media has to talk about something. You almost never see one trade having an effect on another except that it'll drive the price up on future trades because teams get desperate when they lose out on who they want.

If Treliving doesn't get what he wants, he'll just keep him. The Flames defence is better with Brodie as a part of it. The only way he'd absolutely have to trade Brodie is if he can convince one of the big name FAs to come to Calgary.
- Hunkulese

If Tre had Brodie's value pegged at a pick in range 25-40, and sees Winnipeg get a top 6 dman + 20th overall for an RFA (with no guarantee of signing no less), you can bet that shifts his ask for Brodie to some degree.

After the Karlson signing, I think I like Brodie a little bit more this morning ! $4.6 for our top pairing D. Brodie + Gio is cheaper ! To me, if it's at all possible, i'd look at moving Stone first, then Hammer, then Brodie. I have to believe Andersson is at least still a year away from being a top pairing guy....if ever. Also have to remember that Brodie is Gio's long time partner. He might want them to keep Brodie around a while longer.
- tincup

I don't think the Brodie issue is really whether or not he can play top 4 for this team, it's that we need to create some space for Vali/Anderson and possibly fit in a cheaper Brodie-type in Kylington.

That Karlsson contract is just stupid though, I agree. San Jose is gonna regret that one in a year or so

If Tre had Brodie's value pegged at a pick in range 25-40, and sees Winnipeg get a top 6 dman + 20th overall for an RFA (with no guarantee of signing no less), you can bet that shifts his ask for Brodie to some degree.
- rmull905

It's going to have zero impact. I guarantee you that teams know what Treliving wants for Brodie by now. If no one is going to give him what he wants, he'll just keep Brodie.

Winnipeg had to trade Trouba since he's been wanting out for years. Their hands were tied. If the Flames can't do better than they did, they're better off just winning a Cup with Brodie.