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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
I thought Braun would be a guy the leafs should look at. Only one year and RD. SJ needed to unload cap so picks is all they wanted.

Coburn signs in TB for 1.7 for 2 years.

- Aaron_85



Leafs need to shed salary as well.. SJ got a good return for a 32 yr old d-man that was not going to be re-signed
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
Zaitsev and Marleau maybe, but Brown ain't no cap dump. Not at his age, salary and production given his role.
- RogerRoeper



I'm hoping we can get something similar to what SJ got, for Zaitsev
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 18 @ 12:20 PM ET
Rough day to be a Leafs fan.

Karlsson overpayment inflates the defense market.

Cap is reported to be below 83M.

- RedRevenge


Could always be a lot worse. Some were hoping that the Leafs would sign that overpaid clown.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:20 PM ET
I'm hoping we can get something similar to what SJ got, for Zaitsev
- PatC80


A couple 4th rounds and I'd be happy.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
A couple 4th rounds and I'd be happy.
- Aaron_85


As would I.. I still think Dubas is looking at a player for player deal, not just picks.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
A couple 4th rounds and I'd be happy.
- Aaron_85

Or Zaitsev + Marleau for a ham sandwich.

I would lovingly serve that ham sandwich to Dubas.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
As would I.. I still think Dubas is looking at a player for player deal, not just picks.
- PatC80


I am starting to think Dubas is in over his head.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
I am starting to think Dubas is in over his head.
- Azuredoom


I didn't think he was short
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
Trouba = Gardiner

Ehlers = Nylander

I see why wpg want to move on from those softies..

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Except Trouba is nothing like Gardiner.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
As would I.. I still think Dubas is looking at a player for player deal, not just picks.
- PatC80


Pfft Dubas job is easy. Here, I’ll do it for him.

Marleau and a 1st for Martinez.
Nylander for Pesce.
Zaitsev to Van or Edmonton or whoever for a ham sandwich.
Sign Hainsey for a year.

Johnson Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
Moore Kadri Bracco
Marchment Goat/Petan Brown


Rielly Pesce
Muzzin Martinez
Dermott (eventually) Hainsey
Rosen/Holl

You’re welcome Dubas. I’ll be in the car.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
Except Trouba is nothing like Gardiner.
- Fakepartofme

I'm just going to say it:

I hope we find at a way to get Gardiner on a short term contract.

There, I said it.

Or typed it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
Yup. Never had less than 61 points in a full season and is 22. Nelson is 28 and has hit 50 points once and got 6 million...
- RogerRoeper

Willie needs to play with Matthews, he needs a player to help make him better. If he's back with Matthews, he'll get back to 60pts. But he just cannot be the one trying to make others better, he's not that player as of now.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
Willie needs to play with Matthews, he needs a player to help make him better. If he's back with Matthews, he'll get back to 60pts. But he just cannot be the one trying to make others better, he's not that player as of now.
- Fakepartofme

He also needs better line mates on the powerplay. That 2nd unit was trash last year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
I'm just going to say it:

I hope we find at a way to get Gardiner on a short term contract.

There, I said it.

Or typed it.

- Atomic Wedgie

considering what our D currently looks like and the options out there.
Might be a play.


But I doubt it will occur, simply no cap space for him
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
Willie needs to play with Matthews, he needs a player to help make him better. If he's back with Matthews, he'll get back to 60pts. But he just cannot be the one trying to make others better, he's not that player as of now.
- Fakepartofme


And $6.9 for 60+ pts is money well-spent nowadays. And at his age there is upside and time to improve.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
He also needs better line mates on the powerplay. That 2nd unit was trash last year.
- bryant

It wasnt bad.....again he's just not a player that can improve others yet.

Overall, the whole pp wasnt impressive.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
And $6.9 for 60+ pts is money well-spent nowadays. And at his age there is upside and time to improve.
- The Law

If he gets back to 60pts, yup, 6.9 isnt too bad.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:43 PM ET
And $6.9 for 60+ pts is money well-spent nowadays. And at his age there is upside and time to improve.
- The Law

I'm just furious that the guy showed up out of shape after holding out.

My daughter had a funny one today:

Let's get Kessel back, and have a Kessel-Kadri-Nylander line, so that the Leafs fans can direct all their hate.

I suggested we get back Phaneuf and Aki Berg to play as a unit, but she had no idea who Aki Berg was.

So I grounded her.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
Should have kept the 78 year-old GM who overpays supporting players terribly.
- RogerRoeper


Yeah, that is exactly what I said. Thanks for helping me understand what I really meant.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
I'm just furious that the guy showed up out of shape after holding out.

My daughter had a funny one today:

Let's get Kessel back, and have a Kessel-Kadri-Nylander line, so that the Leafs fans can direct all their hate.

I suggested we get back Phaneuf and Aki Berg to play as a unit, but she had no idea who Aki Berg was.

So I grounded her.

- Atomic Wedgie


With Bernier in net?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
With Bernier in net?
- The Law


Larry Murphy has to be on that point.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
I'm just furious that the guy showed up out of shape after holding out.

My daughter had a funny one today:

Let's get Kessel back, and have a Kessel-Kadri-Nylander line, so that the Leafs fans can direct all their hate.

I suggested we get back Phaneuf and Aki Berg to play as a unit, but she had no idea who Aki Berg was.

So I grounded her.

- Atomic Wedgie


I am sure that was difficult for you, but I believe it was necessary.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
I'm just furious that the guy showed up out of shape after holding out.

My daughter had a funny one today:

Let's get Kessel back, and have a Kessel-Kadri-Nylander line, so that the Leafs fans can direct all their hate.

I suggested we get back Phaneuf and Aki Berg to play as a unit, but she had no idea who Aki Berg was.

So I grounded her.

- Atomic Wedgie


Shouldn't ground her, reward her... smart kid
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
With Bernier in net?
- The Law

Toskala.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:51 PM ET
Toskala.
- Atomic Wedgie

this will make Mandala sad
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