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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:35 PM ET
They still can.
- mykokes

They really should... but one would think his value has taken a hit with performance and contract.... I guess they could ask Dreger and MacKenzie to try and create an artificial market for him like they did with Zaitsev.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:36 PM ET
I agree that it's not a great comparison but Mattaa still sucks.
- GreatGigInTheSky

He is slow as (frank).

average number 5 d man.

The Leafs have better assets to bring back a better d man.

Hamilton, Subban, Gost, Sanheim, Pesce, Faulk.

Maybe Hamonic.

Those are d I hope they target. Pieces like Kadri, Kap, ect get you trade discussions with those.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:37 PM ET
They really should... but one would think his value has taken a hit with performance and contract.... I guess they could ask Dreger and MacKenzie to try and create an artificial market for him like they did with Zaitsev.
- Reveen.

Some people like what Z brings. Most don't.....but there are 31 GMs in the league with all different opinions.

Sadly for you it seems as if yours is one of the ones that like Z.

And yes, Mackenzie knows what hes talking about.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 17 @ 7:37 PM ET
Not perfect but doesn't suck either.
- JohnFergusonJr


He sucks pretty hard. Has his entire career.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:38 PM ET
Was when they won the Cup though. Still 24.
- JohnFergusonJr


So was Hainsey
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:39 PM ET
Not even close to accurate.

Who are you? Max?

- JohnFergusonJr


true.

it's actually worse to have maata on the roster with that contract.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:40 PM ET
Was when they won the Cup though. Still 24.
- JohnFergusonJr



Hainsey was top pairing when they won the 2017 Cup...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:41 PM ET
So was Hainsey
- Santo_44


who played more than maata

pens battled through and won with a junk defense once.

hard to do a 2nd time.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 7:42 PM ET
So was Hainsey
- Santo_44


Then he got old.

Maatta isn't old.

Could play the same role and play it better.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:42 PM ET
So was Hainsey
- Santo_44



GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 17 @ 7:43 PM ET
He is slow as (frank).

average number 5 d man.

The Leafs have better assets to bring back a better d man.

Hamilton, Subban, Gost, Sanheim, Pesce, Faulk.

Maybe Hamonic.

Those are d I hope they target. Pieces like Kadri, Kap, ect get you trade discussions with those.

- Santo_44


I'm gonna preface this by saying that I don't think all those guys suck or aren't good, just that I personally don't like them, and hope the Leafs don't trade for them.

I'd love Hamilton, Sanheim, and Pesce, though.

Except Subban. He's awful and I'll fully proclaim that.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:43 PM ET
Then he got old.

Maatta isn't old.

Could play the same role and play it better.

- JohnFergusonJr



Maatta isn’t good. He’s an overpaid, injury prone 3rd pairing D who provides next to nothing offensively...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:43 PM ET
Then he got old.

Maatta isn't old.

Could play the same role and play it better.

- JohnFergusonJr

Meh, already traded.
Move on from him
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:43 PM ET
Then he got old.

Maatta isn't old.

Could play the same role and play it better.

- JohnFergusonJr


lol

He played on the Leafs 2 months after he won the cup.

he was regular old Hainsey for the Pens too.

Just because you played a role on a cup winning team doesn't make you good.

Plenty of GMs have made that mistake and it has came back to bite them.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 7:44 PM ET
Hainsey was top pairing when they won the 2017 Cup...
- Steven_Seagull


Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.

And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.

He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:45 PM ET
I'm gonna preface this by saying that I don't think all those guys suck or aren't good, just that I personally don't like them, and hope the Leafs don't trade for them.

I'd love Hamilton, Sanheim, and Pesce, though.

Except Subban. He's awful and I'll fully proclaim that.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Subban is a monster at individual zone exits.

Something the Leafs could really use.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:45 PM ET
lol

He played on the Leafs 2 months after he won the cup.

he was regular old Hainsey for the Pens too.

Just because you played a role on a cup winning team doesn't make you good.

Plenty of GMs have made that mistake and it has came back to bite them.

- Santo_44


2017 hainsey - young and viral 1st pairing dman

2018 hainsey - old and broken

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:46 PM ET
Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.

And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.

He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year.

- JohnFergusonJr

I don't care what age he is.

His injuries have aged him a (frank) ton. He is slow in a league you need to be fast.,

Move on man they didn't need to trade for a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing d 2 days after the cup finals. They have a whole summer to get a D. Don't waste cap space you don't have on garbage.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 17 @ 7:47 PM ET
Subban is a monster at individual zone exits.

Something the Leafs could really use.

- Santo_44


He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:47 PM ET
Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.

And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.

He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year.

- JohnFergusonJr


the pens won in-spite of maata and hainsey playing a lot, not because of them.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:47 PM ET
2017 hainsey - young and viral 1st pairing dman

2018 hainsey - old and broken

- Tumbleweed

That poster is something else.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:48 PM ET
He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Why?

and don't give me one single thing he doesn't do well. 99.9% of the league isn't perfect.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 7:48 PM ET
I don't care what age he is.

His injuries have aged him a (frank) ton. He is slow in a league you need to be fast.,

Move on man they didn't need to trade for a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing d 2 days after the cup finals. They have a whole summer to get a D. Don't waste cap space you don't have on garbage.

- Santo_44


Two injuries.

Guess by your math Matthews is 38 too.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:49 PM ET
He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid.
- GreatGigInTheSky



Subban doesn’t suck. Not worth 9m, though.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:50 PM ET
That poster is something else.
- Santo_44


the only reason to trade for maata is if you are the hawks and have cap space to burn this year.

they could buy him out next at 1/3 if he still sucks this year for them.
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