Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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They still can. - mykokes
They really should... but one would think his value has taken a hit with performance and contract.... I guess they could ask Dreger and MacKenzie to try and create an artificial market for him like they did with Zaitsev. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I agree that it's not a great comparison but Mattaa still sucks. - GreatGigInTheSky
He is slow as (frank).
average number 5 d man.
The Leafs have better assets to bring back a better d man.
Hamilton, Subban, Gost, Sanheim, Pesce, Faulk.
Maybe Hamonic.
Those are d I hope they target. Pieces like Kadri, Kap, ect get you trade discussions with those. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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They really should... but one would think his value has taken a hit with performance and contract.... I guess they could ask Dreger and MacKenzie to try and create an artificial market for him like they did with Zaitsev. - Reveen.
Some people like what Z brings. Most don't.....but there are 31 GMs in the league with all different opinions.
Sadly for you it seems as if yours is one of the ones that like Z.
And yes, Mackenzie knows what hes talking about. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Not perfect but doesn't suck either. - JohnFergusonJr
He sucks pretty hard. Has his entire career. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Was when they won the Cup though. Still 24. - JohnFergusonJr
So was Hainsey |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Not even close to accurate.
Who are you? Max? - JohnFergusonJr
true.
it's actually worse to have maata on the roster with that contract. |
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Was when they won the Cup though. Still 24. - JohnFergusonJr
Hainsey was top pairing when they won the 2017 Cup... |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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So was Hainsey - Santo_44
who played more than maata
pens battled through and won with a junk defense once.
hard to do a 2nd time. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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So was Hainsey - Santo_44
Then he got old.
Maatta isn't old.
Could play the same role and play it better. |
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So was Hainsey - Santo_44
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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He is slow as (frank).
average number 5 d man.
The Leafs have better assets to bring back a better d man.
Hamilton, Subban, Gost, Sanheim, Pesce, Faulk.
Maybe Hamonic.
Those are d I hope they target. Pieces like Kadri, Kap, ect get you trade discussions with those. - Santo_44
I'm gonna preface this by saying that I don't think all those guys suck or aren't good, just that I personally don't like them, and hope the Leafs don't trade for them.
I'd love Hamilton, Sanheim, and Pesce, though.
Except Subban. He's awful and I'll fully proclaim that. |
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Then he got old.
Maatta isn't old.
Could play the same role and play it better. - JohnFergusonJr
Maatta isn’t good. He’s an overpaid, injury prone 3rd pairing D who provides next to nothing offensively... |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Then he got old.
Maatta isn't old.
Could play the same role and play it better. - JohnFergusonJr
Meh, already traded.
Move on from him |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Then he got old.
Maatta isn't old.
Could play the same role and play it better. - JohnFergusonJr
lol
He played on the Leafs 2 months after he won the cup.
he was regular old Hainsey for the Pens too.
Just because you played a role on a cup winning team doesn't make you good.
Plenty of GMs have made that mistake and it has came back to bite them. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Hainsey was top pairing when they won the 2017 Cup... - Steven_Seagull
Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.
And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.
He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I'm gonna preface this by saying that I don't think all those guys suck or aren't good, just that I personally don't like them, and hope the Leafs don't trade for them.
I'd love Hamilton, Sanheim, and Pesce, though.
Except Subban. He's awful and I'll fully proclaim that. - GreatGigInTheSky
Subban is a monster at individual zone exits.
Something the Leafs could really use. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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lol
He played on the Leafs 2 months after he won the cup.
he was regular old Hainsey for the Pens too.
Just because you played a role on a cup winning team doesn't make you good.
Plenty of GMs have made that mistake and it has came back to bite them. - Santo_44
2017 hainsey - young and viral 1st pairing dman
2018 hainsey - old and broken
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.
And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.
He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year. - JohnFergusonJr
I don't care what age he is.
His injuries have aged him a (frank) ton. He is slow in a league you need to be fast.,
Move on man they didn't need to trade for a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing d 2 days after the cup finals. They have a whole summer to get a D. Don't waste cap space you don't have on garbage. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Subban is a monster at individual zone exits.
Something the Leafs could really use. - Santo_44
He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Maatta only averaged 30 seconds less per game at #3.
And he's 24, not pushing 40 either.
He'd be no worse or slower than Hainsey, Muzzin and Zaitsev were all of last year. - JohnFergusonJr
the pens won in-spite of maata and hainsey playing a lot, not because of them. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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2017 hainsey - young and viral 1st pairing dman
2018 hainsey - old and broken - Tumbleweed
That poster is something else. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid. - GreatGigInTheSky
Why?
and don't give me one single thing he doesn't do well. 99.9% of the league isn't perfect. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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I don't care what age he is.
His injuries have aged him a (frank) ton. He is slow in a league you need to be fast.,
Move on man they didn't need to trade for a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing d 2 days after the cup finals. They have a whole summer to get a D. Don't waste cap space you don't have on garbage. - Santo_44
Two injuries.
Guess by your math Matthews is 38 too. |
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He sucks and he's incredibly overpaid. - GreatGigInTheSky
Subban doesn’t suck. Not worth 9m, though. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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That poster is something else. - Santo_44
the only reason to trade for maata is if you are the hawks and have cap space to burn this year.
they could buy him out next at 1/3 if he still sucks this year for them. |
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