Let's say the Cap is 82. Add Horton they can go to 87.3. They currently have 10 forwards under contract at 46.9 million. They currently have 5 defensemen at 15 million. Goalies at 5.75 and Horton's 5.3.

There at 73 million at this very moment. That leaves 14.3 million. That's 14.3 to resign Marner, Kap, Jon, and Ennis or his replacement, and currently 2 more d with Holl included in the 7. This is simply impossible.

Now. Under the perfect scenario mentioned, Marleau, Z and Brown all leave and no cap hit comes back to the Leafs. If this happens, the space available goes up to 27.15 million. However this now leaves them with only 8 forwards under contract and only 4 d men under contract.

If Marner signs for far less than his ask, at say 9, and both Kap and Jon also settle for 3 each, your at 15 million gone, and still have 2 forward spots and 3 d spots left to fill with the 12.15. 5 players.

So yes, they will fill out the roster, but it will not get better, and this is if everything goes perfect for them.

Realty says Marner signs for at least 10, map and Jon at least 3.5 each, and Marleu isn;t going anywhere unless the Leafs give another talented player away in the deal and effectively getting worse. Z and Brown maybe could get traded without cap coming back. Under this scenario they will have 4 million to sign 2 d, 2 forwards. So the d core will consist of Reilly, Muzzin, Holl, Dermott well into the season, and rookies/plugs. I hope Anderson is ready to experience what Allan Bester did.
- aminnes

Ive already said i dint expect them to improve.

We will see on marleau. I dont expect the impending disaster you do. But im n9t surprised. There have been people like you around for years.

Leafs can’t have too many good players because they will have a higher cap hit and be in cap hell.

Leafs can’t replace some of those guys with lesser but cheaper players because that would make them less good.


Leafs suck either way. Blow it up. No, (frank) that. Fold the franchise. Can’t ever win. Can’t have good players because reasons. Can’t have depth players playing in depth roles making league minimum because reasons. (frank) me.
- Steven_Seagull

Leafs are in Cap Hell. No playoff series wins, their blue-chip young players are maxing out their contracts, Nylander is overpaid and a millstone contract in Marleau. They can't help but step back.

The only way out is to either mover Marner or Nylander, hopefully for top end defensemen, and hope that Kapanen and Johnsson continue to improve. With a little luck, one of their past two first rounders make a significant improvement to make the big team this year. The feeling is, they're not ready.

Massive opportunities.
- Zezel

Depends if he has Ujiri balls.

Leafs are in Cap Hell. No playoff series wins, their blue-chip young players are maxing out their contracts, Nylander is overpaid and a millstone contract in Marleau. They can't help but step back.

The only way out is to either mover Marner or Nylander, hopefully for top end defensemen, and hope that Kapanen and Johnsson continue to improve. With a little luck, one of their past two first rounders make a significant improvement to make the big team this year. The feeling is, they're not ready.
- PrinceLH

100%. Or Matthews. Could get a legit number 1 for Matthews.

Hayes 7yr / $50MM

Hayes 7yr / $50MM
- .HOHO.

Yup. Don't worry, Marner will take 8.9

Leafs are in Cap Hell. No playoff series wins, their blue-chip young players are maxing out their contracts, Nylander is overpaid and a millstone contract in Marleau. They can't help but step back.

The only way out is to either mover Marner or Nylander, hopefully for top end defensemen, and hope that Kapanen and Johnsson continue to improve. With a little luck, one of their past two first rounders make a significant improvement to make the big team this year. The feeling is, they're not ready.
- PrinceLH

Cap hell is Edmonton, not Toronto.

Let's say the Cap is 82. Add Horton they can go to 87.3. They currently have 10 forwards under contract at 46.9 million. They currently have 5 defensemen at 15 million. Goalies at 5.75 and Horton's 5.3.

There at 73 million at this very moment. That leaves 14.3 million. That's 14.3 to resign Marner, Kap, Jon, and Ennis or his replacement, and currently 2 more d with Holl included in the 7. This is simply impossible.

Now. Under the perfect scenario mentioned, Marleau, Z and Brown all leave and no cap hit comes back to the Leafs. If this happens, the space available goes up to 27.15 million. However this now leaves them with only 8 forwards under contract and only 4 d men under contract.

If Marner signs for far less than his ask, at say 9, and both Kap and Jon also settle for 3 each, your at 15 million gone, and still have 2 forward spots and 3 d spots left to fill with the 12.15. 5 players.

So yes, they will fill out the roster, but it will not get better, and this is if everything goes perfect for them.

Realty says Marner signs for at least 10, map and Jon at least 3.5 each, and Marleu isn;t going anywhere unless the Leafs give another talented player away in the deal and effectively getting worse. Z and Brown maybe could get traded without cap coming back. Under this scenario they will have 4 million to sign 2 d, 2 forwards. So the d core will consist of Reilly, Muzzin, Holl, Dermott well into the season, and rookies/plugs. I hope Anderson is ready to experience what Allan Bester did.
- aminnes

EVERYTHING will turn out bad and is a disaster!

A team with Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Kadri, Rielly, Anderseen, Kapanen, Johnsson will obviouslty be a bottom feeder!

Ive already said i dint expect them to improve.

We will see on marleau. I dont expect the impending disaster you do. But im n9t surprised. There have been people like you around for years.
- prock

Leafs will get more than 100 points next year. Book it. Add a better backup, that alone gets you more points.

EVERYTHING will turn out bad and is a disaster!

A team with Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Kadri, Rielly, Anderseen, Kapanen, Johnsson will obviouslty be a bottom feeder!
- RogerRoeper

Lot's teams had overpaid players. None of them went very far. They can find a way to improve, but Dubas has got to have horseshoes or be some sort of rembrandt of hockey GMs to do so...

Lot's teams had overpaid players. None of them went very far. They can find a way to improve, but Dubas has got to have horseshoes or be some sort of rembrandt of hockey GMs to do so...
- aminnes

If your idea is to trade matthews, no thanks. Thats pure stupidity.